basel
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Post by basel on Jul 23, 2023 12:09:53 GMT
In a document, in an agreement with South American Latin countries, the EU have referred to the Falkland Islands as the 'Isla Malvinas'.
Our Government have complained and an Island representative will also be complaining,that's if they hav'nt already.
A few years ago I would'nt of minded this,but not these days.
Many Britons died to take back the islands.
The Falkland Islands people have lived there since the islands were first populated. Not to mention a massive majority said they want to remain British.
Are the EU trying to bully the people of the Falkland Islands?
Having ago at the country that dared Leave their politically scheming organisation?
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Cheshiregas
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 23, 2023 12:21:15 GMT
They put both names on the agreement.
Are far as I can see there is nothing about the islands being Argentinian.
That said, we are outsiders to the EU. Spain, as one of the leading countries will take a more Hispanic view especially as they will look to use leverage on Gibraltar.
Both Falklands and Gibraltar have voted to stay as they are.
However if Argentina invade, which is highly unlikely, I am not sure the UK would have the support it did at one time.
Our influence is waning slowly, sadly, British exceptionalism has lost it's edge.
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basel
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Post by basel on Jul 23, 2023 12:29:17 GMT
They put both names on the agreement. Are far as I can see there is nothing about the islands being Argentinian. That said, we are outsiders to the EU. Spain, as one of the leading countries will take a more Hispanic view especially as they will look to use leverage on Gibraltar. Both Falklands and Gibraltar have voted to stay as they are. However if Argentina invade, which is highly unlikely, I am not sure the UK would have the support it did at one time. Our influence is waning slowly, sadly, British exceptionalism has lost it's edge. Oh right,I did'nt know they used both English and Argentian names. It's still controversial though,I mean the place is the Falkland Islands. I think the UN recognise the islands as British . In the event Argentina invaded the FI again,then I suppose our forces take it back again. |
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Post by trymer on Jul 23, 2023 12:30:44 GMT
In a document, in an agreement with South American Latin countries, the EU have referred to the Falkland Islands as the 'Isla Malvinas'. Our Government have complained and an Island representative will also be complaining,that's if they hav'nt already. A few years ago I would'nt of minded this,but not these days. Many Britons died to take back the islands. The Falkland Islands people have lived there since the islands were first populated. Not to mention a massive majority said they want to remain British. Are the EU trying to bully the people of the Falkland Islands? Having ago at the country that dared Leave their politically scheming organisation? After the Falklands war in 1982 the football World cup was played in Spain,there were plenty of incidents of Spanish people attacking England fans because of the war and the Spaniards support for Argentina. Very little support for Britain during the war from the EU in fact a lot of the EU population seemed anti Britain from comments made at the time. btw did you see Verhofstadt blaming Britain and Brexit for the Russian invasion of Ukraine ?...funny that as Brexit hadnt happened when Russia invaded in 2014 ! Will be so funny after the next EU elections if the EU parliament is packed full of the hard right....no doubt Brexit will be blamed for that too ! |
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trymer
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Post by trymer on Jul 23, 2023 12:32:26 GMT
They put both names on the agreement. Are far as I can see there is nothing about the islands being Argentinian. That said, we are outsiders to the EU. Spain, as one of the leading countries will take a more Hispanic view especially as they will look to use leverage on Gibraltar. Both Falklands and Gibraltar have voted to stay as they are. However if Argentina invade, which is highly unlikely, I am not sure the UK would have the support it did at one time. Our influence is waning slowly, sadly, British exceptionalism has lost it's edge. Oh right,I did'nt know they used both English and Argentian names. It's still controversial though,I mean the place is the Falkland Islands. I think the UN recognise the islands as British . In the event Argentina invaded the FI again,then I suppose our forces take it back again. Britain sensibly built a better air base in the falklands after the war,I believe that a squadron of fighters is based there so it isnt so vulnerable to invasion as it was. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 23, 2023 18:49:20 GMT
Oh right,I did'nt know they used both English and Argentian names. It's still controversial though,I mean the place is the Falkland Islands. I think the UN recognise the islands as British . In the event Argentina invaded the FI again,then I suppose our forces take it back again. Britain sensibly built a better air base in the falklands after the war,I believe that a squadron of fighters is based there so it isnt so vulnerable to invasion as it was. A number of things have been done. The airport can handle large aircraft. Equipment has been stockpiled there. The first sign of any danger from Argentine then all we have to do is fly troops there. The equipment is waiting for them. The Argentinians would be very foolish to invade again. |
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Post by trymer on Jul 24, 2023 13:56:48 GMT
Britain sensibly built a better air base in the falklands after the war,I believe that a squadron of fighters is based there so it isnt so vulnerable to invasion as it was. A number of things have been done. The airport can handle large aircraft. Equipment has been stockpiled there. The first sign of any danger from Argentine then all we have to do is fly troops there. The equipment is waiting for them. The Argentinians would be very foolish to invade again. I doubt they would try another invasion now. I was thinking about the unoccupied Falkland islands or South Georgia being a good place for asylum seekers to stay whilst they have their claims assessed, no NIMBY locals to upset,lots of room. Their interviews could be done via Zoom and there would be no problem with them staying there if their initial claim failed and they wanted to appeal. |
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Post by trymer on Aug 16, 2023 9:28:12 GMT
I have just finished reading two books about the Falklands war and have started to read another one.
Goose Green by Nigel Ely is brilliant,he interviews 114 people who were there (as he was),the story of difficult conditions and hard fighting some of it is sad some of it funny,i recommend it.
Forward into hell by Vince Bramley,he was there too and its his story,I enjoyed it,very brutal but I laughed a lot about a couple of incidents.
The one I have just started is slightly different it is written by the niece of a Paratrooper who was killed in the war,Our boys by Helen Parr,so far its very interesting.
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Post by oldie on Aug 16, 2023 9:50:24 GMT
I always find it interesting how some wallow in a sort of strange voyeurism into the death and suffering brought on by armed conflict.
I do not include remembering and indeed honouring those that served, suffered injury or in particular lost their lives in defence of our country.
But most is not that.
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trymer
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Post by trymer on Aug 16, 2023 12:51:37 GMT
I have just finished reading two books about the Falklands war and have started to read another one. Goose Green by Nigel Ely is brilliant,he interviews 114 people who were there (as he was),the story of difficult conditions and hard fighting some of it is sad some of it funny,i recommend it. Forward into hell by Vince Bramley,he was there too and its his story,I enjoyed it,very brutal but I laughed a lot about a couple of incidents. The one I have just started is slightly different it is written by the niece of a Paratrooper who was killed in the war,Our boys by Helen Parr,so far its very interesting. Another boook about the Falklands war arrived today, The Falklands war 1982 by Martin Middlebrook, I really like his books, read his book on the Schweinfurt/Regensberg bombing raids, very interesting he also wrote several books on the RAF bomber raids,I read the Nuremberg raid he sets out very well why it became a fiasco. |
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