CabbagePatchBlues
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jul 31, 2023 3:57:51 GMT
It'll be a doddle getting that erected as it'll be lightweight materials that a few blokes with cordless drills and handfuls of self-drilling, self-tapping screws will get done in no time. It might even come in prefabricated sections, but I doubt it judging by the access.
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Post by richmace on Jul 31, 2023 6:53:19 GMT
35.3 Facilities for visiting supporters 35.3.1 Each Club must make provision for at least 2,000 visiting supporters at every home match or such number as represents 10% of the Club’s certified capacity, if less than 2,000. The League may, on the prior written application of a Club, suspend this Regulation or reduce the figure either for a particular League Match or for a period of time. Each Club shall, subject to any dispensations granted by the Board, make provision for at least 200 of the visiting supporters (of which not less than 100 must be seats) to be accommodated under cover. Any Club which fails to meet the requirement of 200 visiting supporters being accommodated under cover and which does not have a dispensation granted by the Board shall have such amounts as the Board shall determine (in its absolute discretion) withheld from that Club’s central distributions from the Pool Account until such time as the Club can meet the requirement. If we decided to start the season without the South / South West stands then according to those rules we might be ok.
I'm not sure exactly how big the away terrace is, but I suspect it will be close to 10% of the reduced attendance.
Here are some very rough calaculations:
Last season max capacity (Bolton home): 10086. Approximate capacity of old South & South West stands: 2500 Currnent max capacity: 10086 - 2500 = 7586 Min away allocation: (7586 / 100) * 10 = 759
I would imagine the away terrace is close to that figure.
So, we may legally be able to go ahead and stage home games.
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 31, 2023 7:31:49 GMT
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Post by TaiwanGas on Jul 31, 2023 7:35:09 GMT
This chancer brinkmanship of build and dam the local authority planning department has turned a mole hill into Mount Etna. Sadly its another illustration of how badly the club is run. It boils down to the inexperience of our very small Board.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jul 31, 2023 7:39:15 GMT
We had to do it when we did because Barton promised promotion this season, haven't you heard? Lol
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Post by Delsy on Jul 31, 2023 7:55:47 GMT
I expect if and when it does get erected we all know that it will be there for the next twenty to twenty five years so let’s hope those guys with the cordless Makita’s do a bloody good job !!
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Post by eppinggas on Jul 31, 2023 8:19:55 GMT
This chancer brinkmanship of build and dam the local authority planning department has turned a mole hill into Mount Etna. Sadly its another illustration of how badly the club is run. It boils down to the inexperience of our very small Board. Exactly this. I believe Wael (and Tom) are decent people who want the best for BRFC. But they lack support. Colin Gibson, Eddy Jennings and Barton. Really? Mistakes will continue to be made. As for the Fruit Market - this will not happen without some serious additions to the senior management team. The people who critisize swiss for his largely constructive criticism... are maybe having a bit of a re-think. I used to think BRFC was a slow motion car crash. That was wrong. They're moving through the gears nicely.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Jul 31, 2023 9:58:42 GMT
I expect if and when it does get erected we all know that it will be there for the next twenty to twenty five years so let’s hope those guys with the cordless Makita’s do a bloody good job !! As long as they don't Bosch it up completely
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Post by simon1883 on Jul 31, 2023 12:24:27 GMT
It'll be a doddle getting that erected as it'll be lightweight materials that a few blokes with cordless drills and handfuls of self-drilling, self-tapping screws will get done in no time. It might even come in prefabricated sections, but I doubt it judging by the access. They will throw that up in a week. What I don’t get, and may have missed something here is that we have a good break from home fixtures from the 3rd Sept to the 22nd. Only a midweek pizza cup game scheduled. If things are getting tight, it makes sense to advance the ground works and then have the option to put a temp stand back for a few games to satisfy EFL requirements. And honour fans season tickets. Resume construction during the break from home games above and we nearly have a credible plan. For a silly little “temp” stand there is a lot of stakeholder engagement required and I feel we may have got excited and not followed due process.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Jul 31, 2023 12:54:36 GMT
Think by many standards it will be quite modest with poles at the front.Do hope our next project be it another stand or a new stadium, is a bit more ambitious.Still not seen a lot of new build in my 65 plus years since the North Stand went up at Eastville so really looking forward to seeing it completed. Little Boston's new stand is neat.No poles.
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Post by Delsy on Jul 31, 2023 15:55:53 GMT
That looks like a proper stand with a cantilevered roof design, all stands should be like this so that there are no supporting stanchions ( or poles ! ) to obstruct the view of the paying public.
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 1, 2023 7:46:58 GMT
Rome wasn't built in a day as they say, TG would have had to go away, get plans drawn up, do the costings, arrange the finance, talk to the planners, then formally submit the plans, if he did that in 3 or so months then that deserves praise not criticism. Clearly we should have waited until next summer but the way things have panned out at Rovers regarding their stadium plans in the past perhaps taking a chance with obtaining pp was a wise move, otherwise we might never get to see a new stand!! “ Clearly we should have waited until next summer” I’m glad you posted that because it shows at least two of us are thinking the same way And on Gaschat we have Gashead1981 criticizing Colonel Gibson and his colleagues with a reference to “ prior planning & preparation prevents p*ss poor performance” What is happening ? Are you all having a Damascene conversion ? Either a Damascene moment, or an overheard a conversation with a Kuwaiti business man
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Post by irenestoyboy on Aug 1, 2023 9:38:40 GMT
Or we can be objective regardless of what people otherwise think. Its clear this south stand malarkey is an utter shambles.
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Post by bondigas on Aug 1, 2023 9:56:13 GMT
I couldn't agree more but who in your opinion is responsible for the shambles ?
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Post by irenestoyboy on Aug 1, 2023 10:05:49 GMT
I couldn't agree more but who in your opinion is responsible for the shambles ? For something like this, as in any business, the buck always stops with the owner.
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Post by trymer on Aug 1, 2023 14:44:27 GMT
Have Rovers taken out a loan to build this stand ? if there is money coming into the club from a new investor what was the point of a loan ? especially with interest rates going up.
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 1, 2023 15:46:22 GMT
There are more questions than answers Pictures in my mind that will not show There are more questions than answers And the more I find out the less I know (Johnny Nash, 1972)
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Post by droitwichgas on Aug 1, 2023 18:29:01 GMT
I couldn't agree more but who in your opinion is responsible for the shambles ? For something like this, as in any business, the buck always stops with the owner. It's a bit different when the owner lives the other side of the world and TG has form for building stands without first getting pp? If the new owners are mega wealthy and want to run a professional outfit surely getting in an experienced CEO must be a priority, or at least getting in somebody to assist him?
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Post by droitwichgas on Aug 1, 2023 18:34:30 GMT
Have Rovers taken out a loan to build this stand ? if there is money coming into the club from a new investor what was the point of a loan ? especially with interest rates going up. Given the new owners religion forbids them from using interest bearing loans it'll be interesting to see how they approach this, they'll have to either convert the loan to a Sharia compliant loan, which I doubt Nationwide Finance Ltd can do or pay it off. Perhaps that's why all the work seems to have suddenly stopped?
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Post by basel on Aug 1, 2023 21:18:57 GMT
Is tomorrow ( Wednesday 2nd August ) a possible planning permission day.
Get pp and we're off!
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