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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 21, 2023 11:05:34 GMT
Is it a smokescreen? A majority government owned bank cancelling the account of a potential political opponent? It's bloody dangerous is what it is and I'm surprised at you two for allowing your personal opinion of Farage to cloud your judgement on this !
"Farage has never personally won a seat in his life. He only got into the European Parliament through, ironically, the proportional representation system which Rees Smugg opposes." - I suppose you will say the same about someone like Angela Merkel? She never won a seat in her life either! Other people have other electoral systems. You could level your same accusation at every politician in the EU in Brussels. How many people voted for Van Der Lydon as President of the EU?
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Post by basel on Jul 21, 2023 11:35:58 GMT
Is it a smokescreen? A majority government owned bank cancelling the account of a potential political opponent? It's bloody dangerous is what it is and I'm surprised at you two for allowing your personal opinion of Farage to cloud your judgement on this ! "Farage has never personally won a seat in his life. He only got into the European Parliament through, ironically, the proportional representation system which Rees Smugg opposes." - I suppose you will say the same about someone like Angela Merkel? She never won a seat in her life either! Other people have other electoral systems. You could level your same accusation at every politician in the EU in Brussels. How many people voted for Van Der Lydon as President of the EU? The Left woke lot will happily agree with each other than see what's best for GB. A destructive and dangerous movement. I dread what may await GB under a Labour Government.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 21, 2023 13:17:24 GMT
Is it a smokescreen? A majority government owned bank cancelling the account of a potential political opponent? It's bloody dangerous is what it is and I'm surprised at you two for allowing your personal opinion of Farage to cloud your judgement on this ! "Farage has never personally won a seat in his life. He only got into the European Parliament through, ironically, the proportional representation system which Rees Smugg opposes." - I suppose you will say the same about someone like Angela Merkel? She never won a seat in her life either! Other people have other electoral systems. You could level your same accusation at every politician in the EU in Brussels. How many people voted for Van Der Lydon as President of the EU? The Left woke lot will happily agree with each other than see what's best for GB. A destructive and dangerous movement. I dread what may await GB under a Labour Government. So are you saying that Oldie and I are woke and don't want the best for this country and therefore part of a 'A destructive and dangerous movement.' If so I find that very offensive!
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 21, 2023 13:22:41 GMT
Is it a smokescreen? A majority government owned bank cancelling the account of a potential political opponent? It's bloody dangerous is what it is and I'm surprised at you two for allowing your personal opinion of Farage to cloud your judgement on this ! "Farage has never personally won a seat in his life. He only got into the European Parliament through, ironically, the proportional representation system which Rees Smugg opposes." - I suppose you will say the same about someone like Angela Merkel? She never won a seat in her life either! Other people have other electoral systems. You could level your same accusation at every politician in the EU in Brussels. How many people voted for Van Der Lydon as President of the EU? HMG has a minority stake. It was a commercial decision. If it wasn't they would have reopened the account but the complaints are fluff and nonsense. Why not address the point that Rees Smugg is trying to make out Farage is something he is not rather than whataboutery. He has never won a seat in this country. That is not a matter of opinion that is fact.
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Post by basel on Jul 21, 2023 14:12:34 GMT
Even the BBC have now admitted their report that stated Farage had lost his account because he did'nt have enough cash in it ,was wrong.
The bank and BBC have said they were wrong.
Plenty of politicians expressed their concerns about this attack on freedom,but as yet I've heard nothing from Labour Party leader Sir Kier Starmer.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 22, 2023 7:52:39 GMT
Is it a smokescreen? A majority government owned bank cancelling the account of a potential political opponent? It's bloody dangerous is what it is and I'm surprised at you two for allowing your personal opinion of Farage to cloud your judgement on this ! "Farage has never personally won a seat in his life. He only got into the European Parliament through, ironically, the proportional representation system which Rees Smugg opposes." - I suppose you will say the same about someone like Angela Merkel? She never won a seat in her life either! Other people have other electoral systems. You could level your same accusation at every politician in the EU in Brussels. How many people voted for Van Der Lydon as President of the EU? HMG has a minority stake. It was a commercial decision. If it wasn't they would have reopened the account but the complaints are fluff and nonsense. Why not address the point that Rees Smugg is trying to make out Farage is something he is not rather than whataboutery. He has never won a seat in this country. That is not a matter of opinion that is fact. Whether he has won a seat in the UK is neither here nor there. You cannot deny that Farage has been one of the most influential figures in British politics in the last 15 years. The report quite clearly states it was not a commercial decision. Everyone is now quite aware of that. What next, banks closing accounts because they don't like where you spend your money?
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Post by basel on Jul 22, 2023 8:28:37 GMT
HMG has a minority stake. It was a commercial decision. If it wasn't they would have reopened the account but the complaints are fluff and nonsense. Why not address the point that Rees Smugg is trying to make out Farage is something he is not rather than whataboutery. He has never won a seat in this country. That is not a matter of opinion that is fact. Whether he has won a seat in the UK is neither here nor there. You cannot deny that Farage has been one of the most influential figures in British politics in the last 15 years. The report quite clearly states it was not a commercial decision. Everyone is now quite aware of that. What next, banks closing accounts because they don't like where you spend your money? Without Nigel Farage the UK would still be a member of the European Union. They'll never forget or forgive. By exposing Rose and NatWest,Nigel is helping many others that have inexplicably had their bank account cancelled. All part of the ever increasing threat from the woke trickery. Bunch of Coutts!
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Post by trymer on Jul 22, 2023 9:31:02 GMT
I wonder if Dame Rose will resign to protect the banks 'good reputation'. I doubt if Simon Jack will resign as the BBC doesent have a very good reputation anyway,would any other organisation be able to continue with the stinking reputation that the BBC has now ? it used to be admired worldwide now it is detested.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 22, 2023 10:15:55 GMT
HMG has a minority stake. It was a commercial decision. If it wasn't they would have reopened the account but the complaints are fluff and nonsense. Why not address the point that Rees Smugg is trying to make out Farage is something he is not rather than whataboutery. He has never won a seat in this country. That is not a matter of opinion that is fact. Whether he has won a seat in the UK is neither here nor there. You cannot deny that Farage has been one of the most influential figures in British politics in the last 15 years. The report quite clearly states it was not a commercial decision. Everyone is now quite aware of that. What next, banks closing accounts because they don't like where you spend your money? We'll have to agree to disagree then Nobby. When I read in the report that it was a commercial decision that is what I read. Farage has been a great 'success' in, as I mentioned before, what historians are calling the post truth era. Farage has exploited the fact that people now believe that having an opinion is the same as facts. As Trump, Johnson, the Tory Party and notably Michael Gove has said you don't need to believe experts, the latter notably during the EU campaigning and main Covid period. Trump, Johnson and Farage have learnt that if you say something forcibly and confidently enough, people will believe you over experts and facts. It is a very sad era we are going through.
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Post by trymer on Jul 24, 2023 18:48:24 GMT
Finally the BBC have apologised to Nigel Farage. Simon Jack has tweeted an apology admitting that his story was wrong...hmm surely time to 'hit the road Jack' !
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Post by basel on Jul 24, 2023 19:51:09 GMT
Finally the BBC have apologised to Nigel Farage. Simon Jack has tweeted an apology admitting that his story was wrong...hmm surely time to 'hit the road Jack' ! The BBC were out,deliberately mischief making.Disgusting.
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Post by basel on Jul 25, 2023 6:13:11 GMT
Pressure mounting on the BBC to name their source to the rubbish they announced about Nigel Farage.
Possibly this may lead to Rose getting sacked/'resigning' from NatWest.
Nigel is now like a dog with a bone. Get em!
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 25, 2023 7:28:28 GMT
"Trump, Johnson and Farage have learnt that if you say something forcibly and confidently enough, people will believe you over experts and facts." - I think what you are alluding to was in fact started by a certain Tony Blair. WMD in Iraq anyone?
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Post by Nobbygas on Jul 25, 2023 7:29:46 GMT
"We'll have to agree to disagree then Nobby. When I read in the report that it was a commercial decision that is what I read." - Terry, surely you now have to concede that this was never a commercial decision.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 25, 2023 7:55:03 GMT
"We'll have to agree to disagree then Nobby. When I read in the report that it was a commercial decision that is what I read." - Terry, surely you now have to concede that this was never a commercial decision. I have written what I have written Nobby. After 40 years in banking I know what I am reading and have seen reports like this before. I trust you on battle reports but you would rather believe a self seeking publicist known for lying than me and others who have actually read the report. Sunak certainly hasn't. That's fine, your choice. If the report was wrong he would have been offered his account back, he has not. That in itself speaks volumes. The fact his dismissal as a client was badly handled for which he got the apology does not detract from the fact he does not meet the commercial criteria. Should I now doubt everything you say if Russia says it is winning just because it says so?
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Post by oldie on Jul 25, 2023 8:44:29 GMT
"We'll have to agree to disagree then Nobby. When I read in the report that it was a commercial decision that is what I read." - Terry, surely you now have to concede that this was never a commercial decision. I have written what I have written Nobby. After 40 years in banking I know what I am reading and have seen reports like this before. I trust you on battle reports but you would rather believe a self seeking publicist known for lying than me and others who have actually read the report. Sunak certainly hasn't. That's fine, your choice. If the report was wrong he would have been offered his account back, he has not. That in itself speaks volumes. The fact his dismissal as a client was badly handled for which he got the apology does not detract from the fact he does not meet the commercial criteria. Should I now doubt everything you say if Russia says it is winning just because it says so? You have the patience of a saint Cheshire
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Post by basel on Jul 25, 2023 13:57:48 GMT
Rose has got plenty of form for woke stuff. She was all too happy to mess Farage about.I don't believe for a moment her decision was influenced by anything other than her hatred of his politics.
She almost certainly regrets this unprovoked attack on a man that has specialised on taking on the establishment.
He's gonna win again.
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jul 25, 2023 15:12:34 GMT
Rose has got plenty of form for woke stuff. Examples?
She was all too happy to mess Farage about. She wasn't involved in the initial decisions or aware as far as I know or do you have proof?
I don't believe for a moment her decision was influenced by anything other than her hatred of his politics. Your opinion.She almost certainly regrets this unprovoked attack on a man that has specialised on taking on the establishment. It wasn't an 'attack' they closed an account. Farage is part of the establishment. Look at who's defending him !!He's gonna win again. Probably because the Tories are so scared of what they think is his support amongst those who don't look deeper than the bottom of a pint jug. They are totally gutless and are as economical with the truth as he is....
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Post by oldie on Jul 25, 2023 16:54:49 GMT
Rose has got plenty of form for woke stuff. Examples?
She was all too happy to mess Farage about. She wasn't involved in the initial decisions or aware as far as I know or do you have proof?
I don't believe for a moment her decision was influenced by anything other than her hatred of his politics. Your opinion.She almost certainly regrets this unprovoked attack on a man that has specialised on taking on the establishment. It wasn't an 'attack' they closed an account. Farage is part of the establishment. Look at who's defending him !!He's gonna win again. Probably because the Tories are so scared of what they think is his support amongst those who don't look deeper than the bottom of a pint jug. They are totally gutless and are as economical with the truth as he is....You have to laugh don't you Cheshire.
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Post by trymer on Jul 25, 2023 17:43:19 GMT
Rose has got plenty of form for woke stuff. She was all too happy to mess Farage about.I don't believe for a moment her decision was influenced by anything other than her hatred of his politics. She almost certainly regrets this unprovoked attack on a man that has specialised on taking on the establishment. He's gonna win again. Rose has now admitted that she was wrong to talk to the BBC and made a serious error of judgment. She should be fired,talking to the BBC about someones bank account,that should be confidential. They are falling over themselves to apologise and trying to save their jobs,snivelling liberals,they've been caught out this time.
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