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Post by baselswh on Jun 8, 2024 7:52:20 GMT
Amazing how a win can be determined by advocating one policy and nothing else. I watched the whole thing and there were quite a broad range of topics debated during which Farage was invisible. I thought the moderator did far better than ITV in shutting down the potential shouting match between Mordant and Raynor. Far better. So "Nigel", what is Reform's policy managing national debt....oh Made me laugh out loud when he said we should copy EU countries method of funding the health service. The irony and hypocrisy was stunning. There is not an ounce of "irony and hypocrisy " in Farage referring to France on discussing the challenges of our NHS. He led a Brexit campaign for independence from Brussels,not because he dislikes EU countries. "Stop and search". "We have the data". 'Masses of cash pumped into the NHS and it remains broken'.'So look at the model'. Short and precise answers the public can hear,understand and relate to. Farage is a 'student of Trump',with the experience to know not everything travels well from US to UK. Please try to remember this if you pick up any new Americanisms on your coming trip over the pond Oldie and don't think it's 'cool' to force it on the rest of us.π
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Post by eppinggas on Jun 8, 2024 8:06:22 GMT
Remember when Theresa May kept saying "strong and stable" and after a couple of days, people were asking what else she had to say. In a similar vein Slapper Rayner just repeats "but the Tories crashed the economy". It would appear that is her answer to any question. She was weak, very weak. Very unfair when she's normally out on a Friday on the lash and seeing who she can pick up.
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Post by oldie on Jun 8, 2024 8:56:49 GMT
Amazing how a win can be determined by advocating one policy and nothing else. I watched the whole thing and there were quite a broad range of topics debated during which Farage was invisible. I thought the moderator did far better than ITV in shutting down the potential shouting match between Mordant and Raynor. Far better. So "Nigel", what is Reform's policy managing national debt....oh Made me laugh out loud when he said we should copy EU countries method of funding the health service. The irony and hypocrisy was stunning. There is not an ounce of "irony and hypocrisy " in Farage referring to France on discussing the challenges of our NHS. He led a Brexit campaign for independence from Brussels,not because he dislikes EU countries. "Stop and search". "We have the data". 'Masses of cash pumped into the NHS and it remains broken'.'So look at the model'. Short and precise answers the public can hear,understand and relate to. Farage is a 'student of Trump',with the experience to know not everything travels well from US to UK. Please try to remember this if you pick up any new Americanisms on your coming trip over the pond Oldie and think it's 'cool' to force it on the rest of us.π I don't have the capacity to force anything on anyone. I express an opinion and try to back it up with facts as I know them and or interpret them. You should try it. Looking forward to sitting in the garden in the foothills of Mt Rainier. Laughing along with anti Trump types at our own version.
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Post by baselswh on Jun 8, 2024 9:30:04 GMT
There is not an ounce of "irony and hypocrisy " in Farage referring to France on discussing the challenges of our NHS. He led a Brexit campaign for independence from Brussels,not because he dislikes EU countries. "Stop and search". "We have the data". 'Masses of cash pumped into the NHS and it remains broken'.'So look at the model'. Short and precise answers the public can hear,understand and relate to. Farage is a 'student of Trump',with the experience to know not everything travels well from US to UK. Please try to remember this if you pick up any new Americanisms on your coming trip over the pond Oldie and think it's 'cool' to force it on the rest of us.π I don't have the capacity to force anything on anyone. I express an opinion and try to back it up with facts as I know them and or interpret them. You should try it. Looking forward to sitting in the garden in the foothills of Mt Rainier. Laughing along with anti Trump types at our own version. Yeh,I hope you enjoy reminiscing about the Brexit triumph of Farage/Leave and look forward to Trumps upcoming successful Presidential campaign. Is that Mt Rainer or Rayner!
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Post by ltdgas on Jun 8, 2024 11:48:27 GMT
All polls saying nige won , leftie bbc with there leftie audience are showing nige with 25 % , red Barbie with 19 , leftie London papers reporting the same , nige as winner ππππ
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Post by trymer on Jun 8, 2024 11:52:53 GMT
I don't have the capacity to force anything on anyone. I express an opinion and try to back it up with facts as I know them and or interpret them. You should try it. Looking forward to sitting in the garden in the foothills of Mt Rainier. Laughing along with anti Trump types at our own version. Yeh,I hope you enjoy reminiscing about the Brexit triumph of Farage/Leave and look forward to Trumps upcoming successful Presidential campaign. Is that Mt Rainer or Rayner! Mt Rainier is an active volcano which might explode,Rayner is an old boiler who's going to explode. Mt Rainier hasnt had had an eruption for many years much like a poster on here,sat looking at the mountain must be symbolic for him.
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Post by ltdgas on Jun 8, 2024 12:00:51 GMT
Snap poll finds Farage won debate - while Mordaunt would be better PM than Sunak Snap findings from a More in Common poll of more than 1,000 viewers of last night's BBC debate suggest Nigel Farage came out on top. According to the poll results, the audience is most likely to think Reform UK's leader won, with 25% picking him. Labour's deputy leader Angela Rayner comes in second with 19%. Just 7% thought Tory Penny Mordaunt won, but 32% believe she'd be a better prime minister than Rishi Sunak - with 12% picking him. Full Results Nigel Farage - 25% Angela Rayner - 19% None of the above - 14% Carla Denyer - 11% Stephen Flynn - 10% Penny Mordaunt - 7% Daisy Cooper - 5% Rhun ap Iowerth - 2% Donβt know - 8% Almost half (47%) of 2019 Tory voters watching the debate thought that Mr Farage won the debate, while Ms Rayner leads among 2019 Labour and Lib Dem voters who tuned in. The poll also shows viewers are most likely to think the SNP's Stephen Flynn (net +31), the Green Party's Carla Denyer (net +31) and the Lib Dem's Daisy Cooper (+30) did well in the debate.
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Post by trymer on Jun 8, 2024 12:04:07 GMT
The Tories had 2 chances to vote Penny Mordaunt as their leader,they wouldnt be where they are now with her as PM so they can blame themselves for their predicament.
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Post by ltdgas on Jun 8, 2024 12:06:25 GMT
The Tories had 2 chances to vote Penny Mordaunt as their leader,they wouldnt be where they are now with her as PM so they can blame themselves for their predicament. Apparently the tory members want nige as leader , mordmaunt is 2 nd choice
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Post by oldie on Jun 8, 2024 12:12:55 GMT
Snap poll finds Farage won debate - while Mordaunt would be better PM than Sunak Snap findings from a More in Common poll of more than 1,000 viewers of last night's BBC debate suggest Nigel Farage came out on top. According to the poll results, the audience is most likely to think Reform UK's leader won, with 25% picking him. Labour's deputy leader Angela Rayner comes in second with 19%. Just 7% thought Tory Penny Mordaunt won, but 32% believe she'd be a better prime minister than Rishi Sunak - with 12% picking him. Full Results Nigel Farage - 25% Angela Rayner - 19% None of the above - 14% Carla Denyer - 11% Stephen Flynn - 10% Penny Mordaunt - 7% Daisy Cooper - 5% Rhun ap Iowerth - 2% Donβt know - 8% Almost half (47%) of 2019 Tory voters watching the debate thought that Mr Farage won the debate, while Ms Rayner leads among 2019 Labour and Lib Dem voters who tuned in. The poll also shows viewers are most likely to think the SNP's Stephen Flynn (net +31), the Green Party's Carla Denyer (net +31) and the Lib Dem's Daisy Cooper (+30) did well in the debate. Gotta love Reform types maths. To quote a % the total has to add to 100. But hey, details. So what this poll, as quoted, says 25% Thought Farage was the winner 75% Thought it was someone else, none of the above, don't know or were not counted. Made me laugh
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Post by oldie on Jun 8, 2024 12:17:40 GMT
Yeh,I hope you enjoy reminiscing about the Brexit triumph of Farage/Leave and look forward to Trumps upcoming successful Presidential campaign. Is that Mt Rainer or Rayner! Mt Rainier is an active volcano which might explode,Rayner is an old boiler who's going to explode. Β Mt Rainier hasnt had had an eruption for many years much like a poster on here,sat looking at the mountain must be symbolic for him. ππππ Outraged of Westbury on Trym, tries to be funny whilst counting extensions π€
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 8, 2024 19:46:12 GMT
There is not an ounce of "irony and hypocrisy " in Farage referring to France on discussing the challenges of our NHS. He led a Brexit campaign for independence from Brussels,not because he dislikes EU countries. "Stop and search". "We have the data". 'Masses of cash pumped into the NHS and it remains broken'.'So look at the model'. Short and precise answers the public can hear,understand and relate to. Farage is a 'student of Trump',with the experience to know not everything travels well from US to UK. Please try to remember this if you pick up any new Americanisms on your coming trip over the pond Oldie and think it's 'cool' to force it on the rest of us.π I don't have the capacity to force anything on anyone. I express an opinion and try to back it up with facts as I know them and or interpret them. You should try it. Looking forward to sitting in the garden in the foothills of Mt Rainier. Laughing along with anti Trump types at our own version. Just for you Les...
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/Rainier20200906.jpg/272px-Rainier20200906.jpg Mount Rainier's northwestern slope viewed aerially just before sunset on September 6, 2020
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Mount_Rainier_sunset.jpg/220px-Mount_Rainier_sunset.jpg Mount Rainier sunset
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Post by oldie on Jun 8, 2024 20:16:09 GMT
WTF are you posting this BT? Do you have some of warped obsession with me personally?
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 8, 2024 20:48:00 GMT
WTF are you posting this BT? Do you have some of warped obsession with me personally? Les, try sipping on some of that special cider i know you have, calm down a little and take a little dry humour, you do not need to raise your blood pressure to an unhealthy level. Les, i'm settling down now with some milk and cookies to watch a personal favourite film of mine..'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest'...have a good evening Les.
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Post by oldie on Jun 8, 2024 21:17:43 GMT
WTF are you posting this BT? Do you have some of warped obsession with me personally? Les, try sipping on some of that special cider i know you have, calm down a little and take a little dry humour, you do not need to raise your blood pressure to an unhealthy level. Les, i'm settling down now with some milk and cookies to watch a personal favourite film of mine..'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest'...have a good evening Les. To be honest, there appears to be something seriously wrong with you. I hope the NHS psychologist helps you, but good luck with that. Unlike you, I will not be considering images to post up but in the case of Mt Rainier I will be there. Just come out, and relax.
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 8, 2024 21:32:50 GMT
Les, try sipping on some of that special cider i know you have, calm down a little and take a little dry humour, you do not need to raise your blood pressure to an unhealthy level. Les, i'm settling down now with some milk and cookies to watch a personal favourite film of mine..'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest'...have a good evening Les. To be honest, there appears to be something seriously wrong with you. I hope the NHS psychologist helps you, but good luck with that. Unlike you, I will not be considering images to post up but in the case of Mt Rainier I will be there. Just come out, and relax. Les, Your false narrative is contorted out of all recognition in the guise of 'he who protests too much' attitude... I have booked you in with the said NHS psychologist to bring you all the help needed, good luck with that. Do send some images of your upcoming trip to the USA, finally Les, keep calm and carry-on...(mind that BP it can be lethal).
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Post by oldie on Jun 8, 2024 21:46:28 GMT
To be honest, there appears to be something seriously wrong with you. I hope the NHS psychologist helps you, but good luck with that. Unlike you, I will not be considering images to post up but in the case of Mt Rainier I will be there. Just come out, and relax. Les, Your false narrative is contorted out of all recognition in the guise of 'he who protests too much' attitude... I have booked you in with the said NHS psychologist to bring you all the help needed, good luck with that. Do send some images of your upcoming trip to the USA, finally Les, keep calm and carry-on...(mind that BP it can be lethal). Why are you even concerned about my personal life which involves visiting my family,? I am straight btw, to avoid any confusion
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 8, 2024 21:59:32 GMT
Les, Your false narrative is contorted out of all recognition in the guise of 'he who protests too much' attitude... I have booked you in with the said NHS psychologist to bring you all the help needed, good luck with that. Do send some images of your upcoming trip to the USA, finally Les, keep calm and carry-on...(mind that BP it can be lethal). Why are you even concerned about my personal life which involves visiting my family,? I am straight btw, to avoid any confusion Les, You have posted on a forum and out into the public domain your upcoming trip to the USA for all to see.. I do hope you have a good time visiting family Les, i bid you a very goodnight...
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Post by oldie on Jun 8, 2024 22:21:18 GMT
Why are you even concerned about my personal life which involves visiting my family,? I am straight btw, to avoid any confusion Les, You have posted on a forum and out into the public domain your upcoming trip to the USA for all to see.. I do hope you have a good time visiting family Les, i bid you a very goodnight... In the context of a challenge by another member over "Americanisms" Yours has no context at all other than a personal obsession. Insisting on using my name and opening with "just for you Les" and posting a picture. What is wrong with you? Again, to avoid any confusion, I am straight.
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 8, 2024 22:33:52 GMT
Les, You have posted on a forum and out into the public domain your upcoming trip to the USA for all to see.. I do hope you have a good time visiting family Les, i bid you a very goodnight... In the context of a challenge by another member over "Americanisms" Yours has no context at all other than a personal obsession. Insisting on using my name and opening with "just for you Les" and posting a picture. What is wrong with you? Again, to avoid any confusion, I am straight. Les, you need to get to bed and sleep off the bitterness that seems to be in most of your narratives, BTW i am so pleased you are straight Les.
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