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Post by oldie on May 31, 2024 7:58:19 GMT
It's better to be Private than rely on the State. It's the same with education for your kids. Which is fine if people can afford it. An awful lot of people cannot even afford their housing costs let alone provision for health and education |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 31, 2024 8:12:32 GMT
I have obviously spent many years using the German Health System (Gold Standard). It costs 7.5% of your wage with your employer paying the other 7.5%. How much do you pay for the NHS? The answer is you haven't a clue.
Now I am back in the UK I have Private Health Insurance provided by my company, as do many many other people nowadays.
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Post by oldie on May 31, 2024 8:17:34 GMT
I have obviously spent many years using the German Health System (Gold Standard). It costs 7.5% of your wage with your employer paying the other 7.5%. How much do you pay for the NHS? The answer is you haven't a clue. Now I am back in the UK I have Private Health Insurance provided by my company, as do many many other people nowadays. You have made that point on the German system many times and it has merit. Now, lucky you. I wonder how many others on this little forum have private health insurance funded by their employers? |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 31, 2024 8:18:10 GMT
It's better to be Private than rely on the State. It's the same with education for your kids. Which is fine if people can afford it. An awful lot of people cannot even afford their housing costs let alone provision for health and education In Germany everyone has to have Health Insurance. It's 7.5% of your wage with both lower and higher thresholds. Housing costs? Well, when will the elephant in the room be discussed. Apparently we have a falling population. So, the number of houses required should be going down. However, the demand for new housing means the costs keep going up. It's the old supply & demand rule. How is the demand going up, when the population numbers are falling? It's to house immigrants. Simples really. The immigration policy is driving housing costs upwards. |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 31, 2024 8:22:49 GMT
I have obviously spent many years using the German Health System (Gold Standard). It costs 7.5% of your wage with your employer paying the other 7.5%. How much do you pay for the NHS? The answer is you haven't a clue. Now I am back in the UK I have Private Health Insurance provided by my company, as do many many other people nowadays. You have made that point on the German system many times and it has merit. Now, lucky you. I wonder how many others on this little forum have private health insurance funded by their employers? You worked in the City? Aren't you aware that the Private Health benefit provided by employers is the norm? Good companies provide the benefit to help attract talent and keep their employees healthy. How can you not like it when it also reduces the strain on the NHS! I still pay for the NHS through my tax & NI, so what's the problem? Until people realize that the NHS is providing a very poor service for the money it receives, nothing will change. |
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Post by oldie on May 31, 2024 8:23:35 GMT
Which is fine if people can afford it. An awful lot of people cannot even afford their housing costs let alone provision for health and education In Germany everyone has to have Health Insurance. It's 7.5% of your wage with both lower and higher thresholds. Housing costs? Well, when will the elephant in the room be discussed. Apparently we have a falling population. So, the number of houses required should be going down. However, the demand for new housing means the costs keep going up. It's the old supply & demand rule. How is the demand going up, when the population numbers are falling? It's to house immigrants. Simples really. The immigration policy is driving housing costs upwards. I do wonder how many on here can identify immigrants in their area that have moved into social housing or bought a house. |
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Post by oldie on May 31, 2024 8:30:25 GMT
You have made that point on the German system many times and it has merit. Now, lucky you. I wonder how many others on this little forum have private health insurance funded by their employers? You worked in the City? Aren't you aware that the Private Health benefit provided by employers is the norm? Good companies provide the benefit to help attract talent and keep their employees healthy. How can you not like it when it also reduces the strain on the NHS! I still pay for the NHS through my tax & NI, so what's the problem? Until people realize that the NHS is providing a very poor service for the money it receives, nothing will change. I have, personally (if you want to personalise it) had private health care first in 1978 with Xerox, in the States (obviously) and again when I came back. I recognise I was lucky. I also recognised that the vast majority of those around me couldn't afford it and nor could their employers. The peak of that system was in the States where poor white working class people and the Black community invariably had no health insurance. As one commentator said during that period, it's easy to shorten waiting times if you effectively bar access to millions. Obama tried to address this. |
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Post by Nobbygas on May 31, 2024 8:33:57 GMT
You worked in the City? Aren't you aware that the Private Health benefit provided by employers is the norm? Good companies provide the benefit to help attract talent and keep their employees healthy. How can you not like it when it also reduces the strain on the NHS! I still pay for the NHS through my tax & NI, so what's the problem? Until people realize that the NHS is providing a very poor service for the money it receives, nothing will change. I have, personally (if you want to personalise it) had private health care first in 1978 with Xerox, in the States (obviously) and again when I came back. I recognise I was lucky. I also recognised that the vast majority of those around me couldn't afford it and nor could their employers. The peak of that system was in the States where poor white working class people and the Black community invariably had no health insurance. As one commentator said during that period, it's easy to shorten waiting times if you effectively bar access to millions. Obama tried to address this. The US Health System is broken, so there is no need to quote it in the context of this discussion. Nobody but nobody is advocating the UK adopt the US system. |
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Post by oldie on May 31, 2024 8:37:46 GMT
I have, personally (if you want to personalise it) had private health care first in 1978 with Xerox, in the States (obviously) and again when I came back. I recognise I was lucky. I also recognised that the vast majority of those around me couldn't afford it and nor could their employers. The peak of that system was in the States where poor white working class people and the Black community invariably had no health insurance. As one commentator said during that period, it's easy to shorten waiting times if you effectively bar access to millions. Obama tried to address this. The US Health System is broken, so there is no need to quote it in the context of this discussion. Nobody but nobody is advocating the UK adopt the US system. I agree But that's where it ends up. I do think and agree with you, we should look to our German and French friends in Europe for examples on how to improve our system |
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Post by ltdgas on May 31, 2024 9:22:24 GMT
In Germany everyone has to have Health Insurance. It's 7.5% of your wage with both lower and higher thresholds. Housing costs? Well, when will the elephant in the room be discussed. Apparently we have a falling population. So, the number of houses required should be going down. However, the demand for new housing means the costs keep going up. It's the old supply & demand rule. How is the demand going up, when the population numbers are falling? It's to house immigrants. Simples really. The immigration policy is driving housing costs upwards. I do wonder how many on here can identify immigrants in their area that have moved into social housing or bought a house. Our local council said in a article in the local rag they were going to spend 2.2 million on 10 houses to house Afghan immigrants , the councillor said I hope people who are on the existing council are not going to complain as these people are fleeing certain death etc ( even though they’d been in a local hotel for apx a year ) At the council meeting questions were asked about why were they jumping the Que & why were they spending 2.2 million on 10 houses , there’s plenty of local housing stock around the £130/150,000 mark ( it’s not London / central Bristol etc ) Apparently these houses at £220,000 were what the afgans required , tempers frayed obviously , everyone complaining was a racist / anti immigrant etc Maybe what we should do is move the likes of me / wife out of our 5 bed detached & stick us in 1 bed flats / 2 up / 2 down terraced , give my mrs merc to these poor imigrants , can’t the mrs cycle or use my car , maybe give them all our savings . This was suggested to the councillor who was shouting racist at everyone , why don’t you move out your 6/7 bed country pad & let a migrant family move in , surprisingly or suprisingly not she wouldn’t discuss this option It’s alright for you / me & all these comfortably off people , but there’s plenty who’ve been on council waiting lists for years who are really pissed off when foreigner rack up & get given a £220,000 house , though no doubt in your liberal leftie world you don’t get it |
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Post by oldie on May 31, 2024 10:11:45 GMT
I do wonder how many on here can identify immigrants in their area that have moved into social housing or bought a house. Our local council said in a article in the local rag they were going to spend 2.2 million on 10 houses to house Afghan immigrants , the councillor said I hope people who are on the existing council are not going to complain as these people are fleeing certain death etc ( even though they’d been in a local hotel for apx a year ) At the council meeting questions were asked about why were they jumping the Que & why were they spending 2.2 million on 10 houses , there’s plenty of local housing stock around the £130/150,000 mark ( it’s not London / central Bristol etc ) Apparently these houses at £220,000 were what the afgans required , tempers frayed obviously , everyone complaining was a racist / anti immigrant etc Maybe what we should do is move the likes of me / wife out of our 5 bed detached & stick us in 1 bed flats / 2 up / 2 down terraced , give my mrs merc to these poor imigrants , can’t the mrs cycle or use my car , maybe give them all our savings . This was suggested to the councillor who was shouting racist at everyone , why don’t you move out your 6/7 bed country pad & let a migrant family move in , surprisingly or suprisingly not she wouldn’t discuss this option It’s alright for you / me & all these comfortably off people , but there’s plenty who’ve been on council waiting lists for years who are really pissed off when foreigner rack up & get given a £220,000 house , though no doubt in your liberal leftie world you don’t get it Out of interest, what local council district do you live in? |
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Post by baselswh on May 31, 2024 11:40:51 GMT
In Germany everyone has to have Health Insurance. It's 7.5% of your wage with both lower and higher thresholds. Housing costs? Well, when will the elephant in the room be discussed. Apparently we have a falling population. So, the number of houses required should be going down. However, the demand for new housing means the costs keep going up. It's the old supply & demand rule. How is the demand going up, when the population numbers are falling? It's to house immigrants. Simples really. The immigration policy is driving housing costs upwards. I do wonder how many on here can identify immigrants in their area that have moved into social housing or bought a house. I can. Eastville. |
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Post by swissgas on May 31, 2024 11:50:05 GMT
I do wonder how many on here can identify immigrants in their area that have moved into social housing or bought a house. Our local council said in a article in the local rag they were going to spend 2.2 million on 10 houses to house Afghan immigrants , the councillor said I hope people who are on the existing council are not going to complain as these people are fleeing certain death etc ( even though they’d been in a local hotel for apx a year ) At the council meeting questions were asked about why were they jumping the Que & why were they spending 2.2 million on 10 houses , there’s plenty of local housing stock around the £130/150,000 mark ( it’s not London / central Bristol etc ) Apparently these houses at £220,000 were what the afgans required , tempers frayed obviously , everyone complaining was a racist / anti immigrant etc Maybe what we should do is move the likes of me / wife out of our 5 bed detached & stick us in 1 bed flats / 2 up / 2 down terraced , give my mrs merc to these poor imigrants , can’t the mrs cycle or use my car , maybe give them all our savings . This was suggested to the councillor who was shouting racist at everyone , why don’t you move out your 6/7 bed country pad & let a migrant family move in , surprisingly or suprisingly not she wouldn’t discuss this option It’s alright for you / me & all these comfortably off people , but there’s plenty who’ve been on council waiting lists for years who are really pissed off when foreigner rack up & get given a £220,000 house , though no doubt in your liberal leftie world you don’t get it This is actually happening in Switzerland. Swiss nationals who rent their homes are being moved out of apartment blocks at short notice in order to house immigrants with families. My eighty year old mother in law is terrified because even though she owns her own three bedroom home she fears her property rights will not be respected and she will be forced out with the reason given “ it is for the greater good “. |
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Post by oldie on May 31, 2024 12:48:42 GMT
I do wonder how many on here can identify immigrants in their area that have moved into social housing or bought a house. I can. Eastville. You know Immigrants called Eastville? Blimey, where are they from🤭 |
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Post by baselswh on May 31, 2024 13:08:26 GMT
You know Immigrants called Eastville? Blimey, where are they from🤭 So childish it actually made me grin. Just for the record,India,Tunisia Somali and Egypt. |
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 5, 2024 11:46:13 GMT
ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/1440/cpsprodpb/1076C/production/_133363476_dday-livehero-getty.jpgTwo days of events are taking place in the UK and France to mark the 80th anniversary of the Normandy landings King Charles, Queen Camilla, Prince William and Prime Minister Rishi Sunak are in Portsmouth today "The stories of courage, resilience and solidarity cannot fail to move us, to inspire us & to remind us of what we owe to that great wartime generation," the King says ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/5/a5819e90-87d3-4d16-b143-86df1009b0d8.jpgBill Johnston
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D-Day veterans Stan Ford (L), Alec Penstone (R) and Jim Grant (C) with the torch on Tuesday
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Veterans John Life and Donald Jones on Sword Beach in Normandy on Tuesday, as the RAF flew overhead
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Veterans standing behind a sand art installation of soldiers in Broadstairsichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/5/f7b36834-c547-4de6-8997-960665ba6ada.jpgAlfie Booker still remembers the noises, smells and smoke from D-Day. The 97-year-old was a Royal Navy able seaman responsible for the ammunition on HMS Ramillies.Aged 17 at the time, he says they didn’t know a lot because they weren’t told a lot other than “you’ll be action tomorrow”. His battleship arrived at Sword Beach on the north-west coast of France that day. “What we saw is the main thing that I can’t forget,” he says. “All them young lads running and climbing up the beach to get out the way of the German machine guns firing everywhere, mowing them down, terrible. Shells dropping down, tearing people apart, legs, arms flying all over the place. Dreadful. “You try to forget it all, you don’t want to know, you don’t want to remember all that but you can’t, it’s in you, you’ve got it there. You can’t do nothing about it. It’ll always be there.” Mr Booker, from Lichfield, Staffordshire, says he doesn’t talk about it often but when he does he sheds a tear. “What a way to go. Go out there, bang, dead,” he says. “They better not be forgotten for what they did, what they went through. You can’t forget them, no way.” ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/5/20407650-8671-4ceb-876e-c78329749f11.jpg
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The D-Day 80 stage
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Prince William and Rishi Sunak in Portsmouth
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Helen Mirren praises bravery of veterans in Portsmouthichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/5/01613c94-7d8b-4749-9113-0c5d04efcb83.jpgThere was a standing ovation for D-Day veteran Roy Hayward when he walked on stage on Southsea Common.
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Families of John Howard and Den Brotheridge laying wreaths and flowers at the memorial site at Pegasus Bridgeichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/5/54d840c4-46e4-4bc3-a686-880f2bc24689.jpgKing Charles addresses crowds at D-Day event
We're now hearing from King Charles, who is speaking to mark celebrations for the 80th anniversary of D-Day landings."The stories of courage, resilience and solidarity we have heard today and throughout our lives cannot fail to move us, to inspire us and to remind us of what we owe to that great wartime generation," he says. King Charles says that today's event is to "honour" the nearly 160,000 troops who embarked in Portsmouth to "embark on that mission that [would] strike a blow for freedom". "Those who gathered here in Portsmouth would never forget the site," he says, "all knew both victory and failure were possible, and none could know their fate." "Eight decades later, it's a near impossible task to imagine the emotion of that day", Charles says. "The pride of being part of such great an enterprise, the anxiety of, in some way, not coming up to scratch, and the fear of that day being the last." "Let us never forget that the soldiers who fought in the campaign launched from this place came from 30 nations, from across the UK, the Commonwealth and Allied countries," says the King. King Charles says the involvement of Sikh, Muslim and Hindu soldiers is "a reminder that events that year shaped our world then and the society we share today". ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/5/ea0a188c-c782-4336-a809-64e63ca76965.jpg
During his moving speech, King Charles reminds crowds that the Allied victory was a collective effort from those working in mines and in secret services back home.He says their collective industry, ingenuity and commitment on the ground "helped our soldiers, sailors and airmen to prevail". "As we give thanks for all those who gave so much to win the victory, whose fruits we still enjoy to this day, let us once again commit ourselves always to remember, cherish and honour those who served that day and to live up to the freedom they died for, by balancing rights with civic responsibilities to our country for we are all eternally in their debt." The end of his speech is met with a round of applause from those who attending the commemorative event in Portsmouth. Their majesties King Charles and Queen Camilla have just been on stage to a loud applause from the crowds here in Portsmouth. The audience were on their feet giving an ovation after the speech. The King spoke about the importance of D-Day and how it shouldn’t be forgotten - a message that resonated strongly with the people of this naval city. ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/5/12c620fd-e2bb-4e09-8de3-82d46578600c.jpgichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/5/220aede5-d6ee-4322-9e6d-09a82cf45c23.jpgichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/5/414d4c32-c3e3-44fa-95c8-61fd8a76d648.jpgPrince William paid tribute to those who had taken part in D-Day’s “fight against tyranny”.Speaking on Southsea Common, the Prince of Wales delivered a poignant reading from the diary of Captain Alastair Bannerman. Written as Capt Bannerman sailed towards the French coast on the morning of the first landings, he had thought about his wife and children sleeping at home. He described the rows of small ships heading across the Channel. “We can now see the French coast and very soon we will have to play our part,” he signed off. He was later taken prisoner but survived the war. Prince William remembered those who did not come back, including a line from Rupert Brooke’s poem The Solider: “There is some corner of a foreign field…” ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2024/6/5/b7ef5eec-8cca-4eb2-beb9-d11ec5a5cc12.jpgThe final resting place of Margaret Brotheridge’s brother Lt Den Brotheridge
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D-Day veteran Eric Bateman is given a standing ovation as he walks on to the stage in Portsmouth with his two granddaughters - Annabel and Imogen.
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Very Sad News: WW2 veteran aged 102 dies on way to D-Day event..by Hafsa Khalil, BBC News.i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/06/06/12/85785121-13500859-Robert_Al_Persichitti_102_served_in_the_Pacific_theater_during_t-a-45_1717674302678.jpgA World War Two US Navy veteran travelling to France for an event marking the 80th anniversary of the D-Day landings has died, a veteran organisation has confirmed. Robert "Al" Persichitti from Rochester, New York, was airlifted to a hospital in Germany on 30th May after suffering a medical emergency aboard a ship heading to Europe. He died the following day, aged 102. Remembered as a "great, humble man," Mr Persichitti was involved in the allied operation in Japan. Honor Flight - a veteran organisation Mr Persichitti belonged to - confirmed his death on social media and said he had "served his country bravely without hesitation". The non-profit helps transport former US servicemen to the memorials of the respective wars they fought in. The 102-year-old was selected to attend the event in Normandy by the National World War Two Museum in New Orleans, which paid for and organised the trip, a local affiliate of CBS News, the BBC's US partner, reported. "I'm really excited to be going", he told broadcaster WROC-TV a day before he set off. His cardiologist had encouraged him to travel, he added. Al DeCarlo, who served alongside Mr Persichitti in Japan, was also on the trip. He told local media in Rochester that his friend did not die alone. "The doctor was with him... he was at peace and he was comfortable," he said, according to ABC news agency affiliate, WHAM-TV.
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Post by bluetornados on Jun 24, 2024 22:26:11 GMT
Princess Anne in hospital after being injured in accident, The Princess Royal was taken to hospital on Sunday..Report By Neil Shaw, Network Content Editor i2-prod.bristolpost.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/article9363934.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/0_GettyImages-2158163115.jpgPrincess Anne, The Princess Royal, “has sustained minor injuries and concussion” following an incident on the Gatcombe Park estate on Sunday evening and remains in a Bristol hospital for observation, Buckingham Palace has said. It is believed she was kicked by a horse on her Gatcombe Park estate. Anne, an Olympic-medal winning horsewoman, was walking on her Gloucestershire estate on Sunday evening when the incident happened. A statement from Buckingham Palace said: “The Princess Royal has sustained minor injuries and concussion following an incident on the Gatcombe Park estate yesterday evening. Her Royal Highness remains in Southmead Hospital, Bristol, as a precautionary measure for observation and is expected to make a full and swift recovery. “The King has been kept closely informed and joins the whole Royal Family in sending his fondest love and well-wishes to the princess for a speedy recovery.” Anne will now miss several engagements this week, including the state banquet for the Japanese State Visit on Tuesday and a visit to Canada. A Palace spokesman said: “On doctors’ advice, Her Royal Highness’s engagements for the week ahead will be postponed. Her Royal Highness sends her apologies to any who may be inconvenienced or disappointed as a result.
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