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Post by baselswh on Aug 20, 2022 21:09:09 GMT
I think Usyk will stop Joshua this time.
I've never particularly rated Joshua.
Hmm,9th round.
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Post by zfc on Aug 20, 2022 22:02:17 GMT
I think Usyk will stop Joshua this time. I've never particularly rated Joshua. Hmm,9th round. I hope so it is time racism was kicked out of boxing.But this is heavyweight boxing and anything can happen.Usyk is superior to Joshua technically but Joshua does have that power and a real punchers chance. |
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 20, 2022 23:32:41 GMT
Oleksandr Usyk v Anthony Joshua II: Briton loses world-title challenge by split decision.
Briton Anthony Joshua's bid to recapture the unified heavyweight titles ended in disappointment as Oleksandr Usyk produced a terrific performance to win by split decision in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.
In a clash billed as the Rage on the Red Sea, a spirited Joshua, 32, showed some aggressiveness and intent - a vast improvement from their first fight - but could not match the brilliance and ring savviness of the Ukrainian.
Two judges scored the fight 115-113 and 116-112 to Usyk, while a third judge gave it 115-113 to the challenger. While there were some close rounds, Usyk was the deserved winner.
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Post by zfc on Aug 21, 2022 0:07:21 GMT
How a judge saw Joshua winning was an absolute disgrace..Did he think he was judging a bodybuilding competition?Hopefully that's the last we see of Joshua he disgraced himself at the end and showed the world he is a classless POS.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 21, 2022 5:47:44 GMT
That was actually the best I've ever seen AJ.
However, his antics and the end of the fight now shows a lot of casuals and clueless AJ fan boys, what I've always known that he's massive **** and his nice boy persona has always been a load of absolute bulls**t.
The nonsense he was spouting was comedy gold. Naming Mike Tyson, Sonny Liston, Jack Dempsey and Rocky Marciano banging on about him not being 14 stone and being heavy at 18 stone. Lennox Lewis was pretty much 18 stone, Tyson Fury is 19 stone and Andy Ruiz was an over 19 stone, fat blob when he beat AJ up. Brilliant 🤣
You have to give a lot of credit to Eddie Hearn, he's made them both loads of money for not being very good.
AJ should be eternally grateful for how lucky he's been for the way Hearns promoted him and swindled casual fans instead of being such a bitter pr*ck.
I too hope this is the last we see of AJ.
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 21, 2022 8:51:26 GMT
At the end of the fight, a furious Joshua - quite bizarrely - picked up two of Usyk's belts, dropped them out of the ring and strode towards the dressing room, before turning round and getting back into the ring to give an impassioned speech. "Usyk is one hell of a fighter. That's just emotion," he said. "If you knew my story, you'd understand the passion. I'm not an amateur boxer. I was going to jail and I got bail and I started training. "It shows the passion we put into this. For this guy to beat me tonight, it shows the levels of hard work he must have put in, so please give him a round of applause as heavyweight champion of world. "They said that I'm not a 12-round fighter. I ain't 14 stone, I'm 18 stone, I'm heavy. It's hard work. This guy here is phenomenal." Joshua has now suffered back-to-back defeats against Usyk, with the champion retaining the WBA (Super), WBO and IBF titles he won in London last September. Joshua had some success in the fight - and enjoyed his best round in the ninth, charging Usyk down and unloading a flurry of punches, reminiscent of the AJ of old. But such is the brilliance of Usyk, he came back fighting in the 10th round and was landing clean blow after blow. Usyk landed a five-punch combination, and Joshua became a sitting duck. Joshua fatigued and Usyk - who just a few months ago was defending his nation against the Russian invasion - took full advantage in the championship rounds. "I devote this victory to my family, my country, my team, to all the military defending this country - thank you so much," he said, before calling out WBC champion Tyson Fury. "I'm sure that Tyson Fury is not retired yet. I'm convinced he wants to fight me. I want to fight him. If I'm not fighting Fury, I'm not fighting at all. "Only God knows whether I will fight him or not but all these gentlemen here around me, my team, they are going to help me." Fury recently announced his retirement but has until 26 August to decide on whether he will relinquish the belt. The Gypsy King took to social media to criticise both fighters, and may not yet be done with boxing. The carrot of a clash with Usyk - one which would certainly cement the winner's legacy as an all-time great - is dangling. ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/3FDD/production/_126394361_gettyimages-1242623255.jpgichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/43C5/production/_126394371_gettyimages-1416066567.jpgichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/E3ED/production/_126394385_gettyimages-1416065940.jpg |
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Post by baselswh on Aug 21, 2022 11:00:25 GMT
Joshua did his best,but was beaten by the better man.
I'm not sure he's even top ten.
Post fight,he was as cringeworthy as a David Brent motivational talk.
Embarrassed himself.
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Post by zfc on Aug 21, 2022 15:51:43 GMT
Joshua is an embarrassment and playing the humble guy was always an act..He was being given another boxing lesson last night and resorted to low blows rabbit punches and hitting on the break as again his limitations were shown up.Joshua has never been elite level and he had a career where he was managed very well by Hearn who carefully handpicked his opponents until eventually he had to go in with skillful guys who hit back.It's just a shame we may never get to see Tyson Fury absolutely destroy Joshua anyway he wishes.Fury v Usyk isn't a mouth watering clash as Fury is just too good and too quick for Usyk and will easily walk him down to a comfortable points win.
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 21, 2022 20:18:02 GMT
Joshua is an embarrassment and playing the humble guy was always an act..He was being given another boxing lesson last night and resorted to low blows rabbit punches and hitting on the break as again his limitations were shown up.Joshua has never been elite level and he had a career where he was managed very well by Hearn who carefully handpicked his opponents until eventually he had to go in with skillful guys who hit back.It's just a shame we may never get to see Tyson Fury absolutely destroy Joshua anyway he wishes.Fury v Usyk isn't a mouth watering clash as Fury is just too good and too quick for Usyk and will easily walk him down to a comfortable points win. AJ has finally been completely exposed, surely even his most deluded fan boys can now see they've been had. As you've said AJ has never been elite and doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the top table,Wilder beats him, Dillian Whytes improved considerably since they fought back in 2015 he'd be a problem as would Joe Joyce, I think Joseph Parker given a 2nd chance would too, A fat, wobbly Andy Ruiz beat him up, AJ's pure luck & fortune was never more evident than the rematch with Ruiz who had just been enjoying himself partying for 6 months, with literally zero training or preperation he just rocked up as a 20 stone, obese blob who had no interest in fighting and just turnt up to pocket another £10M. In regards to Tyson Fury v Usyk, both are brilliant fighters and would be greats in any era imo. Tyson Fury is 6'9, 19 stone, incredible footwork and lateral movement for a guy of his size, he can switch styles with ease, he has a great jab, a great chin, great stamina,and now has that Kronk KO power as well. He doesn't really have a weakness. There's not many Heavyweights throughout history that could do what Tyson Fury does He'd be a great in any era. Usyk, to do what he's done in just 20 pro fights is incredible, in terms of all round Boxing ability, footwork, movement and Ring IQ, Usyk is the best Cruiserweight of all time imo. Holyfield of course has the better achievements and won Heavyweight titles in a far stronger era but Usyk is the all round better Boxer imo. Again I agree with that Fury will win comfortably though, he will have at least a 4 stone weight advantage, 6 inch height advantage and will just do what a big elite fighter should do to a far smaller, lighter guy, hold,clinch, use the huge size and weight difference and zap the energy away from Usyk. Think Fury will Knock him out, round 8-9 |
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Post by baselswh on Aug 22, 2022 6:45:53 GMT
I assume Hearn will search out a name who is on the wane for the AJ show next.
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Post by zfc on Aug 22, 2022 7:28:56 GMT
Prepare for Chris Arreola to be hyped up by Hearn as a dangerous opponent for Joshua.🤣🤣
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Post by Gastafari on Aug 22, 2022 9:24:34 GMT
Prepare for Chris Arreola to be hyped up by Hearn as a dangerous opponent for Joshua.🤣🤣 Or Dave Allen or Lucas Browne 🤣 Deontay Wilder v AJ is a fight I'd love to see. I don't think it will happen though, Wilder is far to dangerous for AJ, Wilders right hand landing on AJ's glass jaw really would be goodnight for AJ's career. Fury's the only top ranked Heavyweight that's gone anywhere near Wilder anyway, let alone when your off the back of 3 defeats in your last 5 fights. It will be career suicide for AJ. It's a shame that Deontay Wilder hasn't had a promoter like Eddie Hearn, whereas thanks to Hearn AJ has somehow managed to sell out Wembley, Millenium Stadium, Spurs Stadium etc, Wilders had title fights in tiny arenas in Alabama. I do feel a bit sorry for Deontay Wilder, he's probably been the worst promoted fighter certainly in Heavyweight history, yes he's technically very poor but he has that incredible 1 punch power in his right hand as his get out jail card. If Eddie Hearn can work miracles for AJ, imagine what he could've done for Wilder. The bombs in his Right Hand should be a promoters dream. |
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Post by baselswh on Aug 22, 2022 10:55:51 GMT
Prepare for Chris Arreola to be hyped up by Hearn as a dangerous opponent for Joshua.🤣🤣 I don't follow boxing as closely as you zfc,so I confess I've never heard of Arreola. As Gasta suggests,Wilder v Joshua would be entertaining.I would give Wilder 5 rounds to ko Joshua. I would also like to see Joshua take on Andy Ruiz again,as it's 1 a piece right now.As long as the Mexican trained in the gym and not the pie factory,I could see him beating Joshua in ten or eleven rounds. All in all though,I got fed up of the over hyped Joshua a few years ago. |
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Post by bluetornados on Aug 22, 2022 14:15:57 GMT
Fight Talk: World reacts to Oleksandr Usyk defeating Anthony Joshua and Briton's emotional outburst.ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/17B37/production/_126397079_bbc-sport-fight-talk--418fc136-d1c0-4d50-aa76-815f882391c6.pngIn this week's Fight Talk we digest Anthony Joshua's defeat to Oleksandr Usyk in an enthralling heavyweight title rematch in Saudi Arabia. It was a heartbreaking loss for Joshua, who wore his emotions on his sleeve after failing to reclaim the IBF, WBO and WBA (Super) heavyweight belts. There was lots of praise for the Briton, 32, for a vastly-improved performance from their first fight 11 months ago, but also some raised eyebrows for his reaction to the split decision verdict in favour of Usyk. On a night to be remembered for many reasons, strap in! When Usyk's win was announced, Joshua lost his cool. Visibly furious, he picked up two of the Ukrainian's belts and dropped them out the ring. Joshua then left the ring, only to return to give an emotional speech that had many people scratching their heads - comparing AJ to a certain Kanye West. Anyone remember when the singer stormed the stage to steal Taylor Swift's prize-winning spotlight at the MTV Video Music Awards? As he has always done after a loss, Joshua attended the post-fight news conference to face questions. Clearly still affected, he wiped away tears as he took time to compose himself. Speaking to 5 Live afterwards, Joshua admitted he wished he had been more composed directly after the judges' scorecards were read out. "I wish I had held it together," he told Steve Bunce backstage. "It's hard to hold it together all the time. I wish I would have acted better - but you can't go back." "Let's give Oleksandr Usyk and his team credit where credit's due. I'm proud of them and thank you for everyone that tuned in and watched the fight." Promoter Eddie Hearn launched a staunch defence of his fighter after the loss, as did many others. Where does AJ go from here? That's the question on everyone's lips right now. The two-time world champion says he has no intention of retiring and why would Joshua with so many big fights still out there? A Dillian Whyte rematch or maybe a trilogy with Andy Ruiz Jr - and let's not forget Deontay 'Bronze Bomber' Wilder will make his comeback in October. While some fans are calling for Joshua to retire, there are plenty more who think the former unified world champion can rise again.
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