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Post by lostinspace on Dec 26, 2023 21:20:38 GMT
Ukraine claiming to have shot down 3 SU-34 warplanes, there's a few million $$ in a heap! As Ukraine has now adopted the Gregorian calender they will,this year celebrate Christmas day on December 25th, in the nations move to unite closer with European ways and move away from the Russian calendar where they celebrate Christmas on January 7th. As well as the 3 jets the Ukes have destroyed a warship today. On the battlefield the Russians have taken a key town Mariinka from which the Ukes have been shelling Donetsk. Elsewhere the BBC have reported that Zelensky wants ANOTHER 450,000/500,000 soldiers they also said that 768,000 Ukes aged 18-60 are living in EU countries plus ,000 in non EU countries. Also various reports that trade between Russia and China is at record levels,Western leaders should have made sure that everyone was going to join the sanctions,really this is an own goal,China (and India) must be laughing at the rest of us. [br The India bit is one really to look at,UK government need to give them an ultimatum, Russia...or the hand that feeds you so much ( that you can also put stuff on the moon!! )
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Post by trymer on Jan 3, 2024 16:54:34 GMT
The amount of Russian drones and missiles being used against uke cities has increased,also missile attacks from Gaza and Lebanon on Israel and houthi rebels using missiles too. I wonder if Russia and Iran have decided to deplete the Patriot missiles to make targets undefended,US can only make a certain amount of missiles per month.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jan 4, 2024 10:44:21 GMT
The amount of Russian drones and missiles being used against uke cities has increased,also missile attacks from Gaza and Lebanon on Israel and houthi rebels using missiles too. I wonder if Russia and Iran have decided to deplete the Patriot missiles to make targets undefended,US can only make a certain amount of missiles per month. Patriots are not really used against Drones.
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Post by lostinspace on Jan 4, 2024 11:47:34 GMT
The death toll on the Russian side is looking horrendous,but as " he" isn't worried it doesn't matter as long as " his objective" is obtained.....and noticed he did have an opponent put up to stand against him in the FORTHCOMING election that he has won ,but she was disqualified for some rather obscure reason, ( as yet not been sent to the salt mines) so he stands unopposed ... again
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Post by trymer on Jan 4, 2024 15:10:52 GMT
The amount of Russian drones and missiles being used against uke cities has increased,also missile attacks from Gaza and Lebanon on Israel and houthi rebels using missiles too. I wonder if Russia and Iran have decided to deplete the Patriot missiles to make targets undefended,US can only make a certain amount of missiles per month. Patriots are not really used against Drones. The Russian attacks on Uke cities are (apparently) a mixture of drones and missiles, they have had success (again apparently) with Gepards against drones but they are using Patriots against missiles. Also Hezblloah and Hamas are using missiles against Israel,the houthis against shipping,in these cases Patriots are being used to destroy the missiles....need to get some shares in the firm making Patriots,Raytheon ?
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Post by trymer on Jan 4, 2024 15:17:28 GMT
The death toll on the Russian side is looking horrendous,but as " he" isn't worried it doesn't matter as long as " his objective" is obtained.....and noticed he did have an opponent put up to stand against him in the FORTHCOMING election that he has won ,but she was disqualified for some rather obscure reason, ( as yet not been sent to the salt mines) so he stands unopposed ... again Life is cheap in parts of Russia,a large percentage of their dead will be released convicts,we dont know the amount of Uke military dead but it is also going to be huge,the maimed will be even more. Even if Putin resigned/ lost election / died I dont see Russia giving up Crimea ,Donetsk,Luhansk or the land bridge to Crimea...so sadly the war will go on.
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Post by Nobbygas on Jan 15, 2024 13:08:10 GMT
"Darth Putin
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Day 690 of my 3 day war. A $300 million A-50 command aircraft successfully intercepted & destroyed a Ukrainian anti aircraft missile.
I remain a master strategist.
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Post by trymer on Jan 17, 2024 17:13:31 GMT
Zelensky has asked Switzerland to host peace talks....be a good idea if Trump was involved in them if they happen.
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Post by ltdgas on Jan 18, 2024 19:02:48 GMT
World was a much safer place when trump was president of USA , Russia would never of invaded , he would of dealt with Iranian terrorist state , palestian terrorists etc Can’t see Americans voting Biden in again
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Post by Nobbygas on Jan 18, 2024 23:41:51 GMT
World was a much safer place when trump was president of USA , Russia would never of invaded , he would of dealt with Iranian terrorist state , palestian terrorists etc Can’t see Americans voting Biden in again Biden is a dead man walking. There is no way he is either mentally or physically able to run again. The Dems cannot admit this at this time because he would immediately become a lame duck President. He is, at this time, just a figurehead, and there are others behind the scenes who are really pulling the strings,
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Post by trymer on Jan 28, 2024 20:33:51 GMT
They have uncovered massive corruption in some order for mortar bombs,$millions gone astray.
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Post by trymer on Feb 7, 2024 9:09:44 GMT
Tucker Carlson in Moscow apparently going to interview Putin,Carlson has already got massive publicity because of his visit,I bet the team behind poor old Biden are bricking it.
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Post by oldie on Feb 7, 2024 10:22:17 GMT
Tucker Carlson in Moscow apparently going to interview Putin,Carlson has already got massive publicity because of his visit,I bet the team behind poor old Biden are bricking it. Why? Is Carlson a candidate for President? Didn't he get sacked from Fox news? A self publicising fantasist who could be a useful tool for Putin.
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Post by Nobbygas on Feb 7, 2024 10:52:24 GMT
I'm afraid Carlson has lost the plot regarding Ukraine. He's the sort of guy who sometimes talks sense but other times complete and utter borrux, and there doesn't seem to be much middle ground.
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Post by trymer on Feb 7, 2024 14:56:05 GMT
I'm afraid Carlson has lost the plot regarding Ukraine. He's the sort of guy who sometimes talks sense but other times complete and utter borrux, and there doesn't seem to be much middle ground. He does have a following and a lot of people are fed up with this war, so this interview could start a bandwagon rolling if it does you can be sure that Trump will take advantage of it.
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Post by Nobbygas on Feb 7, 2024 15:43:25 GMT
I'm afraid Carlson has lost the plot regarding Ukraine. He's the sort of guy who sometimes talks sense but other times complete and utter borrux, and there doesn't seem to be much middle ground. He does have a following and a lot of people are fed up with this war, so this interview could start a bandwagon rolling if it does you can be sure that Trump will take advantage of it. The big mistake made (also by the media) is this constant claim that the US are 'giving' huge amounts of free weapons to Ukraine, and why should the US pay for all of this. Those weapon systems have to be bought from US companies, who pay corporation tax etc. It pays the wages of the people to manufacture these systems, those people also pay taxes. These same people spend their money in America, helping the local economies of wherever they live. There is the supply chain, cooks, cleaners, building maintenance etc, all working and paying taxes, so a lot of the money spent on buying these systems actually goes back into the US economy. I have no doubt that the increase in weapons production has also provided a fair few thousand extra jobs. Then there is the future. If those weapon systems prove to actually be battlefield proven and effective, then it will only increase sales in the future, leading to extra profit and job security. So it is a bit false of Carlson to complain about money being spent in Ukraine when it should be spent "at home" as the vast majority of the money is being spent in the USA!
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Post by oldie on Feb 7, 2024 16:04:44 GMT
He does have a following and a lot of people are fed up with this war, so this interview could start a bandwagon rolling if it does you can be sure that Trump will take advantage of it. The big mistake made (also by the media) is this constant claim that the US are 'giving' huge amounts of free weapons to Ukraine, and why should the US pay for all of this. Those weapon systems have to be bought from US companies, who pay corporation tax etc. It pays the wages of the people to manufacture these systems, those people also pay taxes. These same people spend their money in America, helping the local economies of wherever they live. There is the supply chain, cooks, cleaners, building maintenance etc, all working and paying taxes, so a lot of the money spent on buying these systems actually goes back into the US economy. I have no doubt that the increase in weapons production has also provided a fair few thousand extra jobs. Then there is the future. If those weapon systems prove to actually be battlefield proven and effective, then it will only increase sales in the future, leading to extra profit and job security. So it is a bit false of Carlson to complain about money being spent in Ukraine when it should be spent "at home" as the vast majority of the money is being spent in the USA! So true The other side of that coin is the theory of the Industrial/Military complex
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Post by Nobbygas on Feb 8, 2024 9:00:43 GMT
The Ukraine conflict is showing that the over expensive way that Western weapons manufacturers have fooled politicians. I'll use the Harpoon anti-ship as an example. Previously it was sold as only being mounted on an expensive platform ie. a plane or a ship. The platform and missile were expensive when combined. The Ukrainians had other ideas, and very quickly they adapted the Harpoon to be mounted and fired from the back of a cheap lorry. OK, this will limit the use of the missile to a certain extent as a ship or plane can deploy, but with a range of 173 miles, just having these missiles moving up and down your coastline on the back of a cheap lorry will still provide an effective system. That is just one example of how weapon systems are being manipulated and re-worked to enable them to be used at a much lower cost than the manufacturers used to sell them for.
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Post by oldie on Feb 8, 2024 9:29:57 GMT
The Ukraine conflict is showing that the over expensive way that Western weapons manufacturers have fooled politicians. I'll use the Harpoon anti-ship as an example. Previously it was sold as only being mounted on an expensive platform ie. a plane or a ship. The platform and missile were expensive when combined. The Ukrainians had other ideas, and very quickly they adapted the Harpoon to be mounted and fired from the back of a cheap lorry. OK, this will limit the use of the missile to a certain extent as a ship or plane can deploy, but with a range of 173 miles, just having these missiles moving up and down your coastline on the back of a cheap lorry will still provide an effective system. That is just one example of how weapon systems are being manipulated and re-worked to enable them to be used at a much lower cost than the manufacturers used to sell them for. Interesting analogy. Are our procurement people in the armed forces naive fools, or just very silly people blinded by pretty lights on new kit? I don't know
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Post by trymer on Feb 8, 2024 9:59:26 GMT
He does have a following and a lot of people are fed up with this war, so this interview could start a bandwagon rolling if it does you can be sure that Trump will take advantage of it. The big mistake made (also by the media) is this constant claim that the US are 'giving' huge amounts of free weapons to Ukraine, and why should the US pay for all of this. Those weapon systems have to be bought from US companies, who pay corporation tax etc. It pays the wages of the people to manufacture these systems, those people also pay taxes. These same people spend their money in America, helping the local economies of wherever they live. There is the supply chain, cooks, cleaners, building maintenance etc, all working and paying taxes, so a lot of the money spent on buying these systems actually goes back into the US economy. I have no doubt that the increase in weapons production has also provided a fair few thousand extra jobs. Then there is the future. If those weapon systems prove to actually be battlefield proven and effective, then it will only increase sales in the future, leading to extra profit and job security. So it is a bit false of Carlson to complain about money being spent in Ukraine when it should be spent "at home" as the vast majority of the money is being spent in the USA! Convincing low paid American workers that they should pay taxes to benefit armament makers might be a hard task. Trump saying that European countries should contribute as much money for Ukraine as the USA does sounds fair.
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