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Post by trymer on Sept 14, 2023 9:53:21 GMT
These old lefty apparatchiks are a bit schizophrenic about Russia on one hand some want to condemn Russia as fascistic but most hanker back to the good old days of tanks grinding into Prague. I can imagine their celebrations then,clenched fist salutes,waving hammer and sickle flags,singing the Internationale and up the pub for a p1ss up (Red barrel no doubt).
Their talk of freedom,the rich and their crocodile tears for the poor dont fool me,and as for their idea of democracy...only interested when it goes their way Brexit proved that.
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Post by oldie on Sept 14, 2023 10:10:55 GMT
"Trade unions refuse to back motion condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine" RMT and FBU refuse to speak out and........... "A Labour MP has called on a leader of the union whose Tube strikes are causing misery for millions of Londoners to apologise for past support of a pro-Putin separatist in Ukraine. RMT assistant general secretary Eddie Dempsey’s previous sympathies for Aleksey Mozgovoy were revealed on Wednesday. Mr Dempsey met Mozgovoy, head of the pro-Russian “Ghost Brigade” in Luhansk, when he visited the area on a “humanitarian” mission in 2015. He wrote a tribute to Mozgovoy, who he described as a “charismatic” insurgent, after he was killed two weeks later." You've got to wonderYou do have to wonder don't you. "There are several reasons for this obsession with Dempsey. He is the senior assistant secretary-general of the Brexit-supporting National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers (RMT). He comes from a working-class background. And, like his union, he himself is a fervent backer of Brexit. He is everything bourgeois liberals and lefties hate." So a fervent pro Brexit union activists refuses to condemn Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Well I never, I also wonder why.
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 14, 2023 12:55:00 GMT
Oldie, this is getting quite embarassing. Your obsession with Brexit. Have you forgotten that the Brexit debate was not Labour v Tory, It was not left v right. People from all spectrums campaigned to remain, and people from all spectrums campaigned to leave. It was a non-political, non-party vote. In your addled mind it seems as though everything can be attributed to or blamed on Brexit!
I think you should change the record.
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Post by oldie on Sept 14, 2023 13:54:36 GMT
Oldie, this is getting quite embarassing. Your obsession with Brexit. Have you forgotten that the Brexit debate was not Labour v Tory, It was not left v right. People from all spectrums campaigned to remain, and people from all spectrums campaigned to leave. It was a non-political, non-party vote. In your addled mind it seems as though everything can be attributed to or blamed on Brexit! I think you should change the record. You might not like it, you may find it irritating...but it was YOU that raised the spectre of Mr Dempsey and questioned his motives, not me. All I did was highlight his record, a record that suggests he is a hard left activist,a fervent Brexiteer and one who publicly supported a pro Russian segregationist in Ukraine. You raised it, I suspect without finding anything out about this guy, in fact in your blinkered way suggesting that it was his union activities alone that led him to support segregationists and nothing else. When in fact it looks a bit more sinister than that. Brexiteers who have sympathies for the Russian State...who knew? Probably Mr Farage of Russia Today fame. Who else?
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 14, 2023 20:00:51 GMT
These old lefty apparatchiks are a bit schizophrenic about Russia on one hand some want to condemn Russia as fascistic but most hanker back to the good old days of tanks grinding into Prague. I can imagine their celebrations then,clenched fist salutes,waving hammer and sickle flags,singing the Internationale and up the pub for a p1ss up (Red barrel no doubt). Their talk of freedom,the rich and their crocodile tears for the poor dont fool me,and as for their idea of democracy...only interested when it goes their way Brexit proved that. Typical post, lose the debate, resort to name calling, pathetic! In this case going back to 70s name calling. Be funny if it wasn't so sad!
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 14, 2023 20:09:05 GMT
Nobby, just for clarity - www.rmtlondoncalling.org.uk/content/rmt-condemns-invasion-ukraine-russian-forcesRMT condemns the invasion of Ukraine by Russian forces. Friday, 4th of March '22 Dear Colleagues INVASION OF UKRAINE A recent Special Meeting of the NEC agreed the following statement regarding the invasion of Ukraine. “RMT condemns the invasion of Ukraine by Russian forces and calls for their immediate withdrawal. It is workers and their communities and families who suffer from military conflict and we will do all we can to support humanitarian assistance for displaced people from Ukraine and all those that need it. We welcome refugees seeking to come to the UK. As trade unionists we oppose war and support peace and cross border solidarity between workers and alongside the global trade union movement we call for a long-lasting negotiated solution through diplomacy and de-militarisation that guarantees security and peace for all in the region.” Yours sincerely Michael Lynch General Secretary
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Post by trymer on Sept 16, 2023 15:55:59 GMT
Ukraine having success against the Russian navy,a submarine and landing ship damaged (or destroyed ) in sevastopol missile attack and a corvette damaged in a drone attack at sea. Maybe trying to cause a situation where by they can use small boats to attack Kerch bridge and blow up bridge supports with explosives.
Also Ukes take Andriivka ( its been totally flattened) reports of heavy fighting.
I think though that the news away from the fighting could be more important,Russia / North Korea talks, I said ages ago that would happen, could be bad news all round if North Korea decide to attack the south or bombard Japan with missiles. Plus Biden could be in trouble in USA, I wouldnt like to predict whats going to happen there and how it could affect the World (war).
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 20, 2023 10:03:19 GMT
230,000 death certificates officially issued by the ruskies. this is the number declared alongside 750,000 certificates for those requiring health assistance
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Post by trymer on Sept 20, 2023 12:52:31 GMT
230,000 death certificates officially issued by the ruskies. this is the number declared alongside 750,000 certificates for those requiring health assistance Good news,that must be two thirds of their army as casualties so the war must end soon. The Guardian in August gave casualty guesstimates, I read a report from Ukraine last week saying that there had been 'upwards' of 20,000 amputations due to the war (didnt specify if just military) . Just reading that a cargo ship has hit a mine in Romanian water,one day one of these incidents will bring NATO into the war.
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 20, 2023 16:28:37 GMT
230,000 death certificates officially issued by the ruskies. this is the number declared alongside 750,000 certificates for those requiring health assistance Good news,that must be two thirds of their army as casualties so the war must end soon. The Guardian in August gave casualty guesstimates, I read a report from Ukraine last week saying that there had been 'upwards' of 20,000 amputations due to the war (didnt specify if just military) . Just reading that a cargo ship has hit a mine in Romanian water,one day one of these incidents will bring NATO into the war. that may depend on "the deal" spewtin has made with his N Korean counterpart,arrangements made to bring in "labour to maintain damaged buildings" , numbers and where these"buildings" may be located, he has as much regard for the people as spewtin has....more cannonfodder i should imagine
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Post by Nobbygas on Sept 21, 2023 12:40:37 GMT
Reports suggesting that the Ukes have broken through the Russian defensive lines in the South. It appears as though the Russians have been bouncing units from sector to sector to try and stem the tide, and the Ukes have now exploited an area that was weakened.
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Post by trymer on Sept 21, 2023 19:26:28 GMT
Reports suggesting that the Ukes have broken through the Russian defensive lines in the South. It appears as though the Russians have been bouncing units from sector to sector to try and stem the tide, and the Ukes have now exploited an area that was weakened. I wonder what will happen after a Uke breakthrough ? if there was a total Russian collapse Putin could use a tactical nuke ? I will be interested to see how the Uke armour gets on once they're through the minefields,will the Russian AT be able to stop them ? or will the Ukes get through to the coast ?
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Post by trymer on Oct 2, 2023 13:28:32 GMT
A lot going on off of the battlefield (on it too I expect) small cracks appearing in the grand alliance,bound to happen as sanctions bite both ways.
Too early to say what might happen,Russia trying to de-stabilise as always will surely hope that splits occur in the EU and that there will be further problems in USA.
Various reports on BBC online and Radio 4 predicting that the war could go on for years.
One report from a Ukrainian field hospital mentioned that 80% of casualties treated there were for wounds from artillery,sounds like WW1 Western front.
Also on BBC online was an article about Ukes being trained in mine clearance by Royal Engineers,said that the Ukes have had heavy casualties trying to clear minefields up to 10kms deep!!! described the way some minefields have been laid and some of the trip wires and tricks that the Russians are using,quite interesting.
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Post by oldie on Oct 2, 2023 21:35:31 GMT
A lot going on off of the battlefield (on it too I expect) small cracks appearing in the grand alliance,bound to happen as sanctions bite both ways. Too early to say what might happen,Russia trying to de-stabilise as always will surely hope that splits occur in the EU and that there will be further problems in USA. Various reports on BBC online and Radio 4 predicting that the war could go on for years. One report from a Ukrainian field hospital mentioned that 80% of casualties treated there were for wounds from artillery,sounds like WW1 Western front. Also on BBC online was an article about Ukes being trained in mine clearance by Royal Engineers,said that the Ukes have had heavy casualties trying to clear minefields up to 10kms deep!!! described the way some minefields have been laid and some of the trip wires and tricks that the Russians are using,quite interesting. Ummmm.......😱🤔
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Post by trymer on Oct 4, 2023 8:43:20 GMT
BBC reporting that NATO are running out of ammunition to send to Ukraine 'the bottom of the barrel is visible' a strange thing to broadcast during a war.....
Now Mccarthy is out in USA,I wonder how that will affect American contributions to the war,one day the USA will get fed up with chucking money into NATO whilst some European countries dont pay their share..still the Europeans wanted an EU army so they may get their way...Britain can then concentrate on defence of Britain and dependencies...better off standing alone.
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 4, 2023 9:32:03 GMT
BBC reporting that NATO are running out of ammunition to send to Ukraine 'the bottom of the barrel is visible' a strange thing to broadcast during a war..... Now Mccarthy is out in USA,I wonder how that will affect American contributions to the war,one day the USA will get fed up with chucking money into NATO whilst some European countries dont pay their share..still the Europeans wanted an EU army so they may get their way...Britain can then concentrate on defence of Britain and dependencies...better off standing alone. Just the BBC looking for negative headlines. There is enough ammo out there and production has been ramped up in the last year. As I have said previously, for the weapons manufacturers this is a golden time. They know if they produce it then it will sell. There is no way they will miss out on those profits. Remember that famous video of Trump haranguing the Germans across the table at their lack of defence spending? He warned them that the US will not keep paying to defend them if they refuse to spend more to defend themselves. This was five years ago, and Trump was 100% correct. An EU Army will be a joke. Trump has a go
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Post by trymer on Oct 4, 2023 12:35:21 GMT
BBC reporting that NATO are running out of ammunition to send to Ukraine 'the bottom of the barrel is visible' a strange thing to broadcast during a war..... Now Mccarthy is out in USA,I wonder how that will affect American contributions to the war,one day the USA will get fed up with chucking money into NATO whilst some European countries dont pay their share..still the Europeans wanted an EU army so they may get their way...Britain can then concentrate on defence of Britain and dependencies...better off standing alone. Just the BBC looking for negative headlines. There is enough ammo out there and production has been ramped up in the last year. As I have said previously, for the weapons manufacturers this is a golden time. They know if they produce it then it will sell. There is no way they will miss out on those profits. Remember that famous video of Trump haranguing the Germans across the table at their lack of defence spending? He warned them that the US will not keep paying to defend them if they refuse to spend more to defend themselves. This was five years ago, and Trump was 100% correct. An EU Army will be a joke. Trump has a goYes, I cant really see NATO saying that if it was true....well I hope they would have more sense. Someone was saying that their BAE systems shares are doing very well,I dont know if they were joking. Yes,Trump was admant that the European countries should pay their whack and he was unhappy that the US was bailing them out, if Trump gets in again or if America decides to concentrate on the Pacific/Asia as a priority the Europeans had better get their act together to save NATO. The EU does contain some good troops and kit but there probably isnt the will or the money (or the leadership) to make an EU army work...mind you if the Russians took Paris again the French have a biological weapon...bedbugs !
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Post by trymer on Oct 16, 2023 19:10:02 GMT
Fighting around Avdiika, conflicting reports,either Russians are getting a battering or are on the verge of a breakthrough.
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Post by Nobbygas on Oct 17, 2023 8:42:01 GMT
Fighting around Avdiika, conflicting reports,either Russians are getting a battering or are on the verge of a breakthrough. A lot of people are forecasting that the advance will soon stop due to the Autumn rains turning everything into a mudbath. I don't think this will happen. The Ukrainian advance is being conducted mainly by Infantry, which is why it appears to be slow going. Also, the Ukes will not stop as it will just allow the Russians time to construct further lines of defense.
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Post by trymer on Oct 17, 2023 15:09:57 GMT
Fighting around Avdiika, conflicting reports,either Russians are getting a battering or are on the verge of a breakthrough. A lot of people are forecasting that the advance will soon stop due to the Autumn rains turning everything into a mudbath. I don't think this will happen. The Ukrainian advance is being conducted mainly by Infantry, which is why it appears to be slow going. Also, the Ukes will not stop as it will just allow the Russians time to construct further lines of defense. I am wondering if all the other problems in the World plus the 'summer offensive' not having chased the Russians back over their borders might make the USA tell the Ukes that they will have to make a negotiated peace with Russia ?
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