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Post by PeterHooper57 on Aug 21, 2014 17:59:14 GMT
Higgs IMO is waiting to cut his losses, and run once he has found a new investor; therefore, he will keep with clarke, who is probably a very cheap option, if he does well "great" if he doesnt "never mind", you notice Dunford said he was sure Higgs "would deliver the UWE stadium" knowing perfectly well, Higgs is looking to pass the fiasco onto somebody else. "just saying"
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Post by brizzle on Aug 21, 2014 18:01:51 GMT
Sorry to say but the most inexperienced manager Rovers ever got themslves lumbered with. A Chairman who is equally clueless.Helmet firmly on. How about Gary Johnson and to start scoring goals that useless Jamie Cureton who some think not good enough. Wasn't Jamie discounted by DC because of his age? I wonder what he's thinking now, was he correct? After all I believe that he's still a free agent.
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Aug 21, 2014 18:05:56 GMT
Higgs IMO is waiting to cut his losses, and run once he has found a new investor; therefore, he will keep with clarke, who is probably a very cheap option, if he does well "great" if he doesnt "never mind", you notice Dunford said he was sure Higgs "would deliver the UWE stadium" knowing perfectly well, Higgs is looking to pass the fiasco onto somebody else. "just saying" Sacking DC and possibly other backroom staff plus then employing another new manager and support staff isn't cheap, Higgs is just about scraping enough together for new players, and IMO DC is 3 months away from being sacked (and that's only if we continue to struggle). In 3 months time there could be new investors or the club sold, at Oxford the first thing there owner did was sack Waddock and employ Appleton. All those who want DC sacked can only hope new owners take over, otherwise it's stick with a manager who has the genuine ability to get it right and move us forward.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 18:52:38 GMT
Considering the actual state of Bristol Rovers FC I cant believe that the average, rationally thinking supporter would want Clarke sacked and another `potential` better manager installed. There is no money but a shake of the tree may conjure up some pennies for yet another clear out and `better` players brought in. Instant promotion is what many want. You aint gonna get it bar a miracle. A reality check? Thousands need one of them. I despair,people still think Higgs is dishing the cash out like in the bad old days. Hasnt relegation taught anyone anything? It didnt happen after one bad,unlucky season. It happened after 7+ years of bad management appointments. Fingers crossed Clarke can turn things around. That will send a few scurrying for cover.
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Post by alasitsgas on Aug 21, 2014 20:03:50 GMT
Maybe it happened because present said manager couldn't scrape 1 point from the remaining 8 games of last season and at present the views in the teams performance by our fans and those by opposing fans are that we are rubbish and deserve better.Of course I stand to be corrected and i hope i am.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 20:14:06 GMT
Jesus. If you know all the circumstances surrounding the appointment of Clarke and the state of the Rovers and still trot that one out then there is no hope is there? Who in their right minds throw a rookie,inexperienced man to the lions like Higgs did with our league survival at stake? Would you? I wouldnt.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 20:16:32 GMT
Jesus. If you know all the circumstances surrounding the appointment of Clarke and the state of the Rovers and still trot that one out then there is no hope is there? Who in their right minds throw a rookie,inexperienced man to the lions like Higgs did with our league survival at stake? Would you? I wouldnt.
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Aug 21, 2014 20:21:18 GMT
Crazytrain, it's not a case of us scurrying for cover, no one will be more delighted than me if we win on Saturday and Monday, then have a climb to the top, and eventually return to the FL, it's the need to realise when it's broke, and fix it while there is still a season with something positive to play for, look how we all got sucked in (well some, me included) with the need to stick with JW because he had the Gas at heart, and was just a matter of time before he turns it around. Well he didn't, and the fiasco with 8 games to go, to try and save JW reputation massively backfired on us didn't it? Arguably, if NH had acted sooner, and I mean by Sept/Oct 2013, and got a Martin Allen type in we would still be in league 2, maybe league 1, who knows. Now there were some on the OF who said give JW the chop early last season, they got roundly barracked by many on there for saying that, but I have to now, with the benefit of hind sight, say I think they were right, I think sometimes making a brutal decision like giving the manager the boot early seems silly/harsh/foolhardy etc etc, but if a battery is dead in a torch it don't matter how expensive that torch is, it ain't gonna work!!!!
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Post by ast1 on Aug 21, 2014 20:26:57 GMT
Would you sack Darryl Clarke or at least move him sideways like Yeovil did with Skiverton? If so, who would you think would be the best person to move us forward? Clarke will have to be given time, constant changes have got us nowhere. The BoD appointed him and we all hope he can deliver....early signs are not good though, no wonder NH looks a broken man.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 21, 2014 20:32:30 GMT
Sorry to say but the most inexperienced manager Rovers ever got themslves lumbered with. A Chairman who is equally clueless.Helmet firmly on. How about Gary Johnson and to start scoring goals that useless Jamie Cureton who some think not good enough. Wasn't Jamie discounted by DC because of his age? I wonder what he's thinking now, was he correct? After all I believe that he's still a free agent. Cureton signed for D&R in the summer and has already got a couple of goals form them, whilst I agreed with DC's idea of signing young and hungry players it seems we now have young players who can't cope with the Mem crowds! Personally I'd give DC this week to sign a player and then the next two games to turn things around, at least performance wise if not results wise. If we still struggle in both games then that's around 15 games DC's had in total since becoming manager with little signs that he's got the ability to turn things around.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 21:06:46 GMT
Crazytrain, it's not a case of us scurrying for cover, no one will be more delighted than me if we win on Saturday and Monday, then have a climb to the top, and eventually return to the FL, it's the need to realise when it's broke, and fix it while there is still a season with something positive to play for, look how we all got sucked in (well some, me included) with the need to stick with JW because he had the Gas at heart, and was just a matter of time before he turns it around. Well he didn't, and the fiasco with 8 games to go, to try and save JW reputation massively backfired on us didn't it? Arguably, if NH had acted sooner, and I mean by Sept/Oct 2013, and got a Martin Allen type in we would still be in league 2, maybe league 1, who knows. Now there were some on the OF who said give JW the chop early last season, they got roundly barracked by many on there for saying that, but I have to now, with the benefit of hind sight, say I think they were right, I think sometimes making a brutal decision like giving the manager the boot early seems silly/harsh/foolhardy etc etc, but if a battery is dead in a torch it don't matter how expensive that torch is, it ain't gonna work!!!! Of course. It worked with Mcghee and again with Ward but the difference is this manager is working with a quarter of their budget at most. So if Rovers get rid of Clarke and there is no money for the new manager to bring in his own players etc the situation could be much worse. There is no money for wonder players who will propell us up the league. Thats why we have what we have even tho I feel that our experienced, well paid defenders are more of a hinderence to us than a help, than the new recruits. If Clarke does go quite soon then I hope Higgs has an ace up his sleeve. The next sacrificial lamb to the slaughter must have a wealth of experience,good contacts/knowledge etc,etc.
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Post by nickchippenhamgas on Aug 22, 2014 5:40:43 GMT
Crazytrain totally agree with you about MM and JW, it half worked with both, but it's not just you who have said about DC small budget, where did this come from? The only official words I've seen on this subject tell us DC has a "very competitive budget for this league". Now if that's changed, officially then I apologise, but with the aforementioned budget in hand I don't think he's covering himself in glory is he? By the time he's had 10 games this season it will be 18 games he's actually been the boss, more than enough time to see if he can cut it as our boss I would suggest.
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Post by vivalagas on Aug 22, 2014 9:34:42 GMT
I'm not a big fan of the man. But I'd still have Gary Johnson in a heart beat...
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Post by PessimistGas on Aug 22, 2014 9:43:27 GMT
Crazytrain totally agree with you about MM and JW, it half worked with both, but it's not just you who have said about DC small budget, where did this come from? The only official words I've seen on this subject tell us DC has a "very competitive budget for this league". Now if that's changed, officially then I apologise, but with the aforementioned budget in hand I don't think he's covering himself in glory is he? By the time he's had 10 games this season it will be 18 games he's actually been the boss, more than enough time to see if he can cut it as our boss I would suggest. I'm sure that our finance director thoroughly researched the budgets of all the other clubs in the division before allowing Higgs to come out with all that fanny about competitive and highest budgets.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 23:32:27 GMT
Sorry to say but the most inexperienced manager Rovers ever got themslves lumbered with. A Chairman who is equally clueless.Helmet firmly on. How about Gary Johnson and to start scoring goals that useless Jamie Cureton who some think not good enough. well bert tann, don megson,gerry francis,david williams and ian holloway were pretty inexperienced managers and they did ok
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Post by alfie on Aug 23, 2014 0:00:52 GMT
Johnson? For f**ks sake, things are bad enough as they are.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 0:04:05 GMT
Johnson? For fs sake, things are bad enough as they are. Yeah I'd much rather have Clarke than Johnson FFS.
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Post by littlestokegas on Aug 23, 2014 6:57:28 GMT
Maybe we should scour the lower leagues for a young up and coming manager with fresh ideas and is keen?
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Post by a more piratey game on Aug 23, 2014 7:04:38 GMT
If DC does manage to turn it round, it looks to me like we'd be seeing some great passing football. Which would be nice
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 23, 2014 7:31:57 GMT
Confidence first by being ORGANISED and compact,then the pretty football. Being first to the ball is half the battle as is the simple pass and movement. Any player no matter what level will damage you if you allow them time and our tactics of standing off players or letting their forwards drop off our players and pick the ball up in acres of space is not working. If a player can't pass an accurate pass 10 feet then what chance have they got. No room in the team for Ollie Clarke or Mark McCrystal who are a liability when they have the ball. Any team selection at the moment as regards defence looks like we are very short in that department whichever formation we play. With Lockyer injured if we play 4 at the back then its 4 of 5 Leadbitter, Parkes, Trotman, McCrystal, Brown but the problem is that McCrystal is having nightmare time and Trotman didn't look fit. If we play three at the back then its pretty well three of three!!!
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