kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 1, 2021 23:43:58 GMT
So we sell what we own to rent a place, isn’t this how all of our problems started ? Having said that, i am still very sceptical of this and will believe it when im sat in it and watching a league game. Absolutely awful place to plant a stadium, drive past there most day and the traffic can be diabolically bad if someone just parks up in a dodgy place. Would need a nig amount of thought about getting fans to the ground. I really don’t like the idea of putting us there. It would make people use the clubhouse there though as you’d have to have a brisk walk to get to a city centre pub and, no doubt, we would see some confrontations with our red cousins what do we own exactly? What we own is on paper only Wael (Dwane Sports) own it and could do what they like with it or any other assets the only thing that changes is the ability to 'borrow' or secure against something, but people don't like when owners do that now so.. Fair point |
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Post by towngas on Dec 2, 2021 5:06:40 GMT
I think its a fantastic place to get to but then I live in Brislington... I've had to travel to Horfield for the past however long so its swings and roundabouts. In all seriousness its a great site 10 minutes from the largest railway station in the South West and about 20 minutes from the centre which all of Bristols radial bus network essentially terminates at. I know some people will need to drive but we are moving away from single occupancy car journeys and the sooner you stop thinking via car the sooner you realise this is a well located site in the centre of Bristol. Thats about all we know so far so apart from that, there aint any need to get chewed up by detail that isn't there - the club hasn't even commented! Plus the microbreweries, the microbreweries... excellent pre match beer! The Severn Beach line comes into Temple Meads via numerous North Bristol suburbs and several services come in via Bristol Parkway. They should take back the cycle path and re-build the line and there would be a service from Staple Hill all through the East Bristol suburbs to connect at Lawrence Hill. Create another Metrobus line and it would be the most accessible area of the city. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Dec 2, 2021 6:04:26 GMT
With a large network of underground tunnels already established, I'm amazed we haven't utilised them in Central/surrounds to create an efficient public transport system.
This could incorporate St Phillips.
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Post by richmace on Dec 2, 2021 7:47:11 GMT
I've been thinking about this overnight, and whilst I would prefer a North Bristol location, we really do need a new stadium. If this is going ahead then it will 100% be the best thing that ever happened to the club. We would be in the heart of Bristol, as part of an integrated development plan.
That has to raise our profile considerably (if for no other reason than the sign for the new stadium will be alongside the "Bristol City Stadium" sign at the end of the M32. Visitors to Bristol will be constantly reminded that there are two professional teams in Bristol.
We will have comparable facilities to City as well, and able to compete for the first time in my lifetime (yes I know we have less money).
If we can also get out act together on the pitch then we would be in for the kind of bright future that we all imagined when Wael took over.
I am trying not to get carried away with the idea (we have all been here so many times before), but it is exciting!
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Post by Delsy on Dec 2, 2021 16:23:26 GMT
There is always something to get excited about following The Rovers, there's never a dull moment !
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Post by baselswh on Dec 2, 2021 20:18:46 GMT
No less than 20,000 please.🤞
Hopefully great news.
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Post by CabbagePatchBlues on Dec 3, 2021 8:28:37 GMT
I've felt positive about this one ever since the regeneration plans for the area first emerged not long after the Uwe plans were ditched. Being part of a long-term scheme like this lends it more credence than the Uwe and the Men rebuild had. The Mem plans always felt like pie in the sky; fingers crossed behind our backs kind of thing. Student flats. Leyton Orient did it, why can't we? Not a lot of forethought. Sainsbury's involvement made the Uwe project doubtful from the outset, and come the end it collapsed way before the finishing line. Again, not a lot of forethought. The Fruit Market is on solid ground compared to those two and I wonder if Wael, being from a family of investment bankers, was aware of this urban development scheme when he took over the club and that is what he's been slowly working towards. I can't take any more pigs flying past the window.
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Post by trymer on Dec 3, 2021 8:34:20 GMT
No less than 20,000 please.🤞 Hopefully great news. 20,000 ? I first went to Eastville in 1967 and I can only remember one league match with a (just over) 20,000 crowd and that was a local derby, I might be remembering incorrectly so if anyone can put me right I would appreciate it. IF (and I dont think that it will for a few reasons) this stadium were to be built I doubt that it would be more than 12,500. |
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Post by lostinspace on Dec 3, 2021 9:04:44 GMT
No less than 20,000 please.🤞 Hopefully great news. 20,000 ? I first went to Eastville in 1967 and I can only remember one league match with a (just over) 20,000 crowd and that was a local derby, I might be remembering incorrectly so if anyone can put me right I would appreciate it. IF (and I dont think that it will for a few reasons) this stadium were to be built I doubt that it would be more than 12,500. I think that with location and seemingly more possible investment, I am in the thinking lines of Basel on this one 👭👬👪👪👪🧕👲👶🧒🧑🕺🧑🦳🧑🦰👱🧑🦱🧑🦲🧔🕺💃🤰 |
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Post by towngas on Dec 3, 2021 10:16:25 GMT
No less than 20,000 please.🤞 Hopefully great news. 20,000 ? I first went to Eastville in 1967 and I can only remember one league match with a (just over) 20,000 crowd and that was a local derby, I might be remembering incorrectly so if anyone can put me right I would appreciate it. IF (and I dont think that it will for a few reasons) this stadium were to be built I doubt that it would be more than 12,500. In the Dodgin and Megson era, late 60's early 70's Eastville crowds regularly exceeded 10,000. I remember games against villa and Plymouth comfortably exceeding 20,000. Funnily enough, when we went up in 1974 the crowd in Div 2 were relatively disappointing, but I think crowds in general outside the First Division started to fall as a result of violence, other options becoming available and the general s**t state of most stadia. |
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Post by kentgas on Dec 3, 2021 10:49:35 GMT
No less than 20,000 please.🤞 Hopefully great news. 20,000 ? I first went to Eastville in 1967 and I can only remember one league match with a (just over) 20,000 crowd and that was a local derby, I might be remembering incorrectly so if anyone can put me right I would appreciate it. IF (and I dont think that it will for a few reasons) this stadium were to be built I doubt that it would be more than 12,500. Remember Bournemouth and Plymouth in 73/74 pulling in 20,000 plus crowds and Brighton was just under for the last game of the season. |
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Post by Icegas on Dec 3, 2021 10:50:16 GMT
No less than 20,000 please.🤞 Hopefully great news. 20,000 ? I first went to Eastville in 1967 and I can only remember one league match with a (just over) 20,000 crowd and that was a local derby, I might be remembering incorrectly so if anyone can put me right I would appreciate it. IF (and I dont think that it will for a few reasons) this stadium were to be built I doubt that it would be more than 12,500. If it were to be only 12,500 then there is no point moving. Any club that is from the city the size of ours and has a following that takes 40k to Wembley needs a stadium that is at the minimum 20k to begin with due to our potential. Just because we only get 7k - 10k at the Mem in this past era does not mean that with a new stadium and a level of success that we couldn't fill 20k one day. |
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Post by baselswh on Dec 3, 2021 10:53:05 GMT
20,000 ? I first went to Eastville in 1967 and I can only remember one league match with a (just over) 20,000 crowd and that was a local derby, I might be remembering incorrectly so if anyone can put me right I would appreciate it. IF (and I dont think that it will for a few reasons) this stadium were to be built I doubt that it would be more than 12,500. If it were to be only 12,500 then there is no point moving. Any club that is from the city the size of ours and has a following that takes 40k to Wembley needs a stadium that is at the minimum 20k to begin with due to our potential. Just because we only get 7k - 10k at the Mem in this past era does not mean that with a new stadium and a level of success that we couldn't fill 20k one day. Agreed Ice. Ambition Rovers! Ambition. |
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 3, 2021 12:14:47 GMT
No less than 20,000 please.🤞 Hopefully great news. 20,000 ? I first went to Eastville in 1967 and I can only remember one league match with a (just over) 20,000 crowd and that was a local derby, I might be remembering incorrectly so if anyone can put me right I would appreciate it. IF (and I dont think that it will for a few reasons) this stadium were to be built I doubt that it would be more than 12,500. That is true and city would get around 13-14k. We would only get the bigger crowds when we had a big club or in a decent FA cup game. The crowds kept dwindling up to our final match at Eastville |
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Post by lostinspace on Dec 3, 2021 12:19:00 GMT
20,000 ? I first went to Eastville in 1967 and I can only remember one league match with a (just over) 20,000 crowd and that was a local derby, I might be remembering incorrectly so if anyone can put me right I would appreciate it. IF (and I dont think that it will for a few reasons) this stadium were to be built I doubt that it would be more than 12,500. Remember Bournemouth and Plymouth in 73/74 pulling in 20,000 plus crowds and Brighton was just under for the last game of the season. Can recall the Plymouth boxing day match being in excess of 23,000, was a foggy day and that a chartered flight from Plymouth was grounded,unable to leave Devon, the following season I think our opening game was against Villa, and we struggled to get over 11,000 for that, and the reasons were as you said regarding on going violence at the games |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 3, 2021 12:22:38 GMT
20,000 ? I first went to Eastville in 1967 and I can only remember one league match with a (just over) 20,000 crowd and that was a local derby, I might be remembering incorrectly so if anyone can put me right I would appreciate it. IF (and I dont think that it will for a few reasons) this stadium were to be built I doubt that it would be more than 12,500. I think that with location and seemingly more possible investment, I am in the thinking lines of Basel on this one 👭👬👪👪👪🧕👲👶🧒🧑🕺🧑🦳🧑🦰👱🧑🦱🧑🦲🧔🕺💃🤰 The thing is that the supposed income streams wont come easy as the reds got there first and we would have stiff competition for conference business and other things. It was always about who got there first as i see it. We would maybe get the business of the people who live close by but we are taking a fair few years away. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 3, 2021 12:26:16 GMT
Remember Bournemouth and Plymouth in 73/74 pulling in 20,000 plus crowds and Brighton was just under for the last game of the season. Can recall the Plymouth boxing day match being in excess of 23,000, was a foggy day and that a chartered flight from Plymouth was grounded,unable to leave Devon, the following season I think our opening game was against Villa, and we struggled to get over 11,000 for that, and the reasons were as you said regarding on going violence at the games It’s funny how people see it as i remember certain people would go because of the violence. |
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Post by towngas on Dec 3, 2021 12:40:35 GMT
Can recall the Plymouth boxing day match being in excess of 23,000, was a foggy day and that a chartered flight from Plymouth was grounded,unable to leave Devon, the following season I think our opening game was against Villa, and we struggled to get over 11,000 for that, and the reasons were as you said regarding on going violence at the games It’s funny how people see it as i remember certain people would go because of the violence. Yes there were, but very much in the minority. I think as control, fan segregation and stadia improved the crowds increased but those bent on causing trouble and who no longer had free rein to cause havoc lost interest and stopped coming. Theres a bit of hand-baggery after some of the bigger games, but from my certain memories from the 60’s and 70’s it is nursery stuff in comparison. |
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Post by Delsy on Dec 3, 2021 16:12:42 GMT
Can recall the Plymouth boxing day match being in excess of 23,000, was a foggy day and that a chartered flight from Plymouth was grounded,unable to leave Devon, the following season I think our opening game was against Villa, and we struggled to get over 11,000 for that, and the reasons were as you said regarding on going violence at the games It’s funny how people see it as i remember certain people would go because of the violence. ' Some men just like the fight ' |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 14, 2021 13:11:59 GMT
I was watched a video of the bus tours we have had, it’s always around the Kingswood area, the traditional stronghold of the core of our fans. The area is having millions spent on it, i know i am biased but why we are trying to move away from what used to be as close to lock out blue and very close to Ag mark 2 ?
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