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Post by manchestergas on Aug 19, 2014 15:53:28 GMT
The word English comes from the Angles. The English are the Angles with a lot more chucked in. English is predominantly a Germanic language formed on an 'Anglo Saxon' base. Technically there is no such thing as an Anglo Saxon, but a series of Germanic tribes which invaded at the tail end of the Roman era and up the Normans (who were Vikings originally). Most of Northern England is of Viking stock. English is also a mix of other languages including Latin, French (which is a Latin based language) and others. Why English is such a great language is that it adapts and nicks things from other languages.
P.S the Anglo Saxons didn't come from Europe, we are in Europe! They came from continental Europe. Just thought I would be pedantic.
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Post by manchestergas on Aug 19, 2014 15:57:43 GMT
Winchester was the capital in 1066 of Wessex and England as a whole. Not sure whether Somerton was an older capital.
Harold Godwin or Godwinson (Harold II of arrow in the eye fame, although apparently that was a myth) was Earl of Wessex and they were a West Country family and the most powerful family in the late Saxon period.
How things would have been different if the Saxons had not charged down the hill at Hastings after getting over excited.
Ranks up there with Marcus Stewart hitting the post in the 1995 play off final. Tides of history often turn on small things.
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 19, 2014 16:10:08 GMT
Certainly, the main influences on Modern English are Germanic from Old English, Old Norse from the Scandinavians and Latin via Old Norman, that much is certain. The Anglo Saxons wern't really invaders anyway, they move over wholesale so were more settlers. What's interesting is that in the West Country outside of Cornwall we probably retain more Anglo Saxon influence than anywhere else, West Saxony or Wessex being thier main base that survived the most intact after 1066 I seem to remember that Somerton in Somerset was the Capital of Wessex at one time? That I don't know
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 16:21:07 GMT
Can't deny Rickie was a great signing, but a bit of an insult to lots of the other players at that time to suggest it was not a team effort, lets not forget many would have said Richard Walker was just as an important part of the strike force, with lots of stand out performers in the rest of the team as well. Lets not forget Walker scored the two Wembley goals and Igoe put the icing on the cake ....
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 19, 2014 16:23:47 GMT
The word English comes from the Angles. The English are the Angles with a lot more chucked in. English is predominantly a Germanic language formed on an 'Anglo Saxon' base. Technically there is no such thing as an Anglo Saxon, but a series of Germanic tribes which invaded at the tail end of the Roman era and up the Normans (who were Vikings originally). Most of Northern England is of Viking stock. English is also a mix of other languages including Latin, French (which is a Latin based language) and others. Why English is such a great language is that it adapts and nicks things from other languages. P.S the Anglo Saxons didn't come from Europe, we are in Europe! They came from continental Europe. Just thought I would be pedantic. Pretty sure that the angles from Saxony (anglo-saxons) were a specific tribe that moved over, Bede certainly though so. You are dead right though that a number of Germanic tribes settled in England. The Vikings that invaded northern and eastern English were a bit different again, came from Scandinavia rather than Germany, and spoke Old Norse. The Normans were indeed originally Vikings, with a bit of French, and their influence is what marks the border between Old and Middle English
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 19, 2014 16:39:53 GMT
Can't deny Rickie was a great signing, but a bit of an insult to lots of the other players at that time to suggest it was not a team effort, lets not forget many would have said Richard Walker was just as an important part of the strike force, with lots of stand out performers in the rest of the team as well. Lets not forget Walker scored the two Wembley goals and Igoe put the icing on the cake .... Lambert wasn't really a stand out player until we made Div 1, our promotion was a real team effort with no real star player. I also remember some rotten times at Twerton, including watching whilst sat in the rain during our relegation(?) season get hammered by the likes of Sheff Weds, which still brings back bad memories all these years later.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 16:43:00 GMT
Quite ironic how you mention the Beeches, any idea where loan players used to stay and at what cost to the club per night, go on, have a guess? Assuming you are not Geoff or a family member or close friend may i suggest digging a little deeper to see how 'voluntary' this role has been. They were charged 50% of the going rate of comparable hotels,,i would put the spade down if i were you I will believe you over someone heavily involved in the Beeches at that time that I was also involved in business with if you can show the proof....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 16:48:11 GMT
A Google pi$$ing contest ... brilliant!
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Post by jozer on Aug 19, 2014 17:00:55 GMT
****ing good riddance.
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 19, 2014 17:08:28 GMT
A Google pi$$ing contest ... brilliant! I lived with a bloke at uni who was doing a degree in linguistics, it was far more interesting than my own degree, been interested in the history of languages ever since
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Post by Lazza on Aug 19, 2014 17:10:27 GMT
If I caught what Nick Higgs said,GD will not be selling his shares,so I assume he'll still be involved in some decision making. Which makes his standing down all a little bit pointless really in many respects. He's still there, he still has a say.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 17:20:57 GMT
A Google pi$$ing contest ... brilliant! I lived with a bloke at uni who was doing a degree in linguistics, it was far more interesting than my own degree, been interested in the history of languages ever since I believe that English is the lingua franca of languages ... I tried ordering it as an aperitif on holiday.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 17:32:52 GMT
The fact that Dunford is probably the most divisive character in the clubs history means it's probably for the best the man steps away. Not selling his shares means he isn't.
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Post by basel on Aug 19, 2014 17:36:03 GMT
It's bollocks! Dunford has gone nowhere!
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Post by harrybuckle on Aug 19, 2014 18:41:05 GMT
The word English comes from the Angles. The English are the Angles with a lot more chucked in. English is predominantly a Germanic language formed on an 'Anglo Saxon' base. Technically there is no such thing as an Anglo Saxon, but a series of Germanic tribes which invaded at the tail end of the Roman era and up the Normans (who were Vikings originally). Most of Northern England is of Viking stock. English is also a mix of other languages including Latin, French (which is a Latin based language) and others. Why English is such a great language is that it adapts and nicks things from other languages. P.S the Anglo Saxons didn't come from Europe, we are in Europe! They came from continental Europe. Just thought I would be pedantic. Pretty sure that the angles from Saxony (anglo-saxons) were a specific tribe that moved over, Bede certainly though so. You are dead right though that a number of Germanic tribes settled in England. The Vikings that invaded northern and eastern English were a bit different again, came from Scandinavia rather than Germany, and spoke Old Norse. The Normans were indeed originally Vikings, with a bit of French, and their influence is what marks the border between Old and Middle English I was beginning to think I HAD LOGGED ONTO the History channel forum ...some great history picked up on these posts ..just wondered if SINCLAIR is from true Anglo Saxon line in Wiltshire ...I bet his ancestors could kick butt back in those days
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Post by irishrover on Aug 19, 2014 19:06:44 GMT
A Google pi$$ing contest ... brilliant! I lived with a bloke at uni who was doing a degree in linguistics, it was far more interesting than my own degree, been interested in the history of languages ever since Same here actually - funny that!
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Aug 19, 2014 19:17:43 GMT
Very true. Especially remember GD telling those presenting a petition about the way in which Dennis Rofe was treated that if they didn't like it they could bugger off. I can remember meeting at the back of the Grandstand after the match to protest and hand in the petition. It was pouring with rain, and only about half a dozen people showed up (sounds familiar). The petition was handed in at the door, but it wasn't GD who took it. I had already written a personal letter to GD, making my feelings very clear re. the treatment Rofe received. The letter was sent via one of the empties which Dunford's milkman collected the following day. I did receive a very polite response from GD, via Royal Mail. Just registered, though long time browser of this forum, to say I was the person who handed it in. We had collected over 3,500 names on the day, more than half the crowd. Originally Bob Twyford was sent down to collect the petition, to which we refused. Eventually I alone was allowed to hand it in to GD, on the stairway to the directors lounge. His exact words to this fairly naive (at the time) 22 year old was, 'If you don't like it you know what you can do'. It's fair to say that was the moment I took a dislike to him. As Chewbacca rightly says, this is not the time to go popping champagne corks. I'll save that moment for when, and if, the shares are sold.
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Post by blueginger on Aug 19, 2014 19:44:08 GMT
If I caught what Nick Higgs said,GD will not be selling his shares,so I assume he'll still be involved in some decision making. Which makes his standing down all a little bit pointless really in many respects. He's still there, he still has a say. How can he have a say ? as he is no longer a director he will not be allowed to attend board meetings, the only meeting he can attend is the club Agm, along with the rest of the shareholders. As all decisions are taken at board level he will have no input.
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Post by blueginger on Aug 19, 2014 19:56:18 GMT
Has anyone heard from Northville Blue this week, would be interested in his thoughts on this development.
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Post by faggotygas on Aug 19, 2014 19:58:20 GMT
Pretty sure that the angles from Saxony (anglo-saxons) were a specific tribe that moved over, Bede certainly though so. You are dead right though that a number of Germanic tribes settled in England. The Vikings that invaded northern and eastern English were a bit different again, came from Scandinavia rather than Germany, and spoke Old Norse. The Normans were indeed originally Vikings, with a bit of French, and their influence is what marks the border between Old and Middle English I was beginning to think I HAD LOGGED ONTO the History channel forum ...some great history picked up on these posts ..just wondered if SINCLAIR is from true Anglo Saxon line in Wiltshire ...I bet his ancestors could kick butt back in those days
Looks more Neanderthal to me
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