warehamgas
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Post by warehamgas on Oct 5, 2021 23:27:03 GMT
“Ashes will go ahead says Australia captain Tim Paine, even if some England players stay home”
OK, I’ll start this one. Reading an article on the BBC that Tim Paine has said the Ashes will go ahead even if Joe Root and England players aren’t there. Who the hell does Tim Paine think he is? Does he really think that they will take place if the players don’t turn up. Total rubbish because it won’t happen! I cant quite decide if he’s trying to be hard like he’s expected to be as an Aussie captain. Is he trying to be David Warner or Smith? Is he reverting to type after all these years when Aussies have tried to be “new” cricketers after the cheating scandal v South Africa? Or is he just putting pressure on the England players to come? Is he putting pressure already on Joe Root? All of these things perhaps.
That the Aussie Government has now relaxed travel rules means that families will probably get fast tracked so that the Ashes do take place. It would be a disaster for Cricket Australia if they don’t take place, financially as well as for the game. Few watch test cricket in Australia if it’s not the Ashes but they’ll turn up in their thousands to see England get hammered! The ECB can’t afford another debacle after the Pakistan series. They must have few friends left. And let’s be honest we don’t even like them in this country, or rather I don’t!! 🤔
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irishrover
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Post by irishrover on Oct 6, 2021 0:50:44 GMT
I think it's more about both Cricket boards playing negotiation hardball. I wouldn't be surprised if the ACB were massively pissed off that Joe Root implied he wouldn't go as presumably they have sponsors/TV partners getting jumpy so put Paine in front of the camera to fire back.
Looks like they've all pulled back from the brink though. Yes, a cancelled Ashes would have been bad for English cricket's international standing after the ding-dong of the Pakistan cancellation but it also would be a disaster for international cricket. It's already under huge pressure from the franchise game if teams start setting precedents for pulling out scheduled bilateral tours like this it could lead to an implosion of the international game especially given how many cricket boards are basically skint.
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Post by lostinspace on Oct 6, 2021 12:55:14 GMT
Where the Tosh talk of " if only my family can come too scenario " is brought up and partially backed by Boris...just take a look at those service personnel who REGULARLY are on active duty for over 3 months at a time especially submariners .did you think they should have there family with them holding hands... these guys are playing cricket for Christ sake not fighting abloody war!!
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irishrover
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Post by irishrover on Oct 19, 2021 11:33:31 GMT
Where the Tosh talk of " if only my family can come too scenario " is brought up and partially backed by Boris...just take a look at those service personnel who REGULARLY are on active duty for over 3 months at a time especially submariners .did you think they should have there family with them holding hands... these guys are playing cricket for Christ sake not fighting abloody war!! I have some sympathy for this argument but what this is really about is players now having the power to dictate terms to cricket boards whereas before they had to like it or lump it. ECB/ACB etc know that players can now make more money and have a better work/life balance playing in the franchise cricket tournaments. While people say 'oh but they used to tour for 6-7 months' it does ignore the fact that was a different era when it really was partly a holiday and there were different family expectations. The divorce rates among cricketers are the highest in all professional team sports so this is a significant issue. International tours are pretty dreary for players these days and they no longer have to go on them from a career perspective. This is a serious issue for international cricket in general - if the terms/pay/conditions are not good enough players will simply not turn up. Look at what has happened to the Windies/South Africa etc. Until some kind of redistributive mechanism is put into the system from franchise cricket and the richer cricket boards to the rest international cricket will continue to decline. The quality is on the floor at the moment.
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