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Post by mangogas15 on Sept 19, 2021 9:40:10 GMT
It was announced this morning he has passed away.
One of the Greatest
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Post by lostinspace on Sept 19, 2021 10:27:38 GMT
sad news, great player , believe he never wanted to be the first £100.000 player and went for "£1:00 less, didn't want that tag!!,,, ironic that today CFC and THFC play each other, would expect a very fitting tribute to this man RIP greavsie
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Post by baselswh on Sept 19, 2021 11:15:42 GMT
This is sad news. Probably the best English forward ever.
In broadcasting The Saint & Greavesie show was great.I thoroughly enjoyed it and now "James" will be reunited with the "Saint".
Jimmy Greaves,magnificent ball control,dribbler and finisher.A true English world class footballer.
Rest in peace Jimmy.
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Post by tenniscourtgas on Sept 19, 2021 12:42:05 GMT
Very sad day. Jimmy Greaves was one of my two favourite non Rovers players as a child, but unfortunately never played at Eastville, as we never drew either Tottenham, Chelsea or West Ham in any of the cup competitions whilst he was playing for those sides. He started playing for Chelsea as a 17 year old, and was a regular goal scorer for both Chelsea and England, but we only saw glimpses of him on brief snatches on TV matches, or in news reels at the cinema. Only the FA Cup final, or midweek afternoon England matches were shown live in those days, but I remember a slightly built, player, ghosting through defences to find the net, often passing the ball into the net, and specialising with angled finishes with either foot. It was a big shock when he was sold to AC Milan by Chelsea, but he only stayed a few months before returning to sign for Spurs. His return was a massive event, and I can recall his first match back against Blackpool in a Div1 match, when he typically scored a hatrick, including a spectacular acrobatic volley. No Match of the Day in those days, just a brief segment on the National News that Saturday evening.. It was always exciting listening to his exploits on radio commentaries, but such was the competitive football of those days, with so many different sides winning the League it FA Cup,,that he never won a League title, just the two FA Cups, and Europeans Cup Winners Cups, all with Tottenham. Spurs were the glamour side in the country at that time, as Man Utd struggled following the Munich Air crash, and excerpts of their matches were shown more than any other side. Spurs were in the FA Cup final that season, and Greaves put them ahead in the first few minutes against Burnley, width a solo left footed goal, that he somehow slid inside the post. No doubt that goal will be shown on TV at some stage today, possibly with solo goals against Man Utd, Newcastle, which are particularly famous. I can also recall a free kick from the edge of the box against Liverpool, which he took quickly, whilst Liverpool were organising a wall. There was another goal, the winner in the last minute against Rest of World at Wembley in 1963 or 4, which was memorable. He didn’t score goals outside the box, but excelled at turning on a sixpence inside the penalty area, and he had an incredible sequence of scoring on his first appearances for Chelsea, Tottenham, West Ham, and England. He also had a very good goal per match record in his brief spell with Milan. His decline was very sad during the 70s, is well documented, and he left league football in his early 30s,,but remained well loved by fans for his achievements. Another piece of my childhood has now disappeared, only Bobby Charlton of my earliest heroes still alive.
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 19, 2021 13:33:15 GMT
It was announced this morning he has passed away. One of the Greatest Jimmy IMO was the greatest british striker of all time, scoring 44 goals in 57 games for England and is 1st on the all-time list of League only goal scorers in the English top division with 357. His overall career record for Chelsea, A.C.Milan, Tottenham, West Ham, Barnet, England & U23's is: Played 737 - Goals 504 = 0.69 Goal Ratio. R.I.P Jimmy, you are joining a hell of a team up in the clouds where i'm sure you will have such fun again. P.S - On that list of the top 115 all-time league only goal scorers, minimum 200 goals, the top ex-Rovers players names are: 31..Jamie Cureton 264, 54..Geoff Bradford 242, 61..Mike Channon 232, 75..Steve White 223, 84..Rickie Lambert 218 and 99..Alfie Biggs 213.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Sept 19, 2021 14:47:44 GMT
Jimmy Greaves has died aged 81. In the 50's we played Chelsea in a friendly at Eastville.Jimmy Greaves was in his prime and a very large crowd turned up but in the Evening Post STOP PRESS (A small area at the bottom of the back page for late news ,were the words 'J Greaves is being rested['.
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Post by bluetornados on Sept 19, 2021 18:19:07 GMT
More on Jimmy Greaves from the BBC:
Jimmy Greaves, who has died aged 81, will be remembered as a prodigy, pioneer and pundit as well as one of the greatest natural goal scorers English football has ever produced.
Greaves' glittering career at club level with Chelsea, AC Milan, Tottenham Hotspur and West Ham United was matched by his feats for England as he remains fourth in the list of all-time goalscorers behind Wayne Rooney, Sir Bobby Charlton and Gary Lineker with 44 goals in 57 games.
Despite this stellar record, he will be best remembered at international level for the crushing disappointment of missing England's 1966 World Cup final win over West Germany at Wembley after failing to regain his place from Sir Geoff Hurst following an injury. Hurst scored a hat-trick in England's 4-2 win.
After retiring from the game and overcoming alcoholism, Greaves forged a hugely successful broadcasting career that cemented his status as one of the game's most popular and enduring figures.
Greaves already had a reputation as a special talent as one of 'Drake's Ducklings' at Chelsea - the name given to manager Ted Drake's group of gifted youngsters in response to Manchester United's 'Busby Babes'. He made his debut as a 17-year-old in August 1957, scoring against Spurs at White Hart Lane.
He may be best remembered for his feats at Spurs but his name is still fondly recalled at Chelsea after scoring 124 league goals in just four years at Stamford Bridge - his natural speed, poise and killer instinct in and around the penalty area breaking records.
In 1960, aged 20 years and 290 days, he became the youngest player to score 100 league goals as his feats brought him to Europe's attention.
The young Greaves was one of English football's early exports when he left Chelsea for Italy and AC Milan in June 1961 - but it was a move he made reluctantly and briefly, scoring nine goals in 14 games before returning to London just five months later.
Even in that short stint, he still demonstrated his class.
In an Italian league dominated by the Catenaccio 'door bolt' defensive system, Greaves proved he could still pick the locks with expertise, scoring goals even in the face of physical punishment.
He later said: "I always felt I went to Milan a boy and came back a man thanks to all the physical treatment I withstood from their defenders."
Scoring goals, anywhere, was never a problem but Greaves felt stifled under the austere regime of Milan's new head coach Nereo Rocco, who banned sex and alcohol for three days before matches. Greaves could not wait to return when the San Siro giants accepted bids of £96,500 from Chelsea and Spurs.
Greaves was on his way to Spurs in December 1961 after the League and FA Cup 'double' winners eventually outbid Chelsea with an offer of £99,999 - manager Bill Nicholson declining to pay the last pound because he did not want the striker to be burdened with the tag of being England's first £100,000 footballer.
It was worth every penny as Greaves' deeds wrote him into White Hart Lane legend, scoring a record 266 goals in 379 games in all competitions for the club.
He won the FA Cup twice at Spurs, scoring in a 3-1 win over Burnley in 1962 and playing in the 2-1 win against Chelsea in 1967.
Greaves demonstrated his quality on the wider stage as Spurs won the European Cup Winners' Cup in 1963, scoring twice as they beat Atletico Madrid 5-1 in the final in Rotterdam.
In an era renowned for hard men such as Leeds United's Norman Hunter, Ron 'Chopper' Harris at Chelsea and 'The Anfield Iron' Tommy Smith, Greaves mixed physical courage and glorious goal scoring nous that made him a striker of undisputed world class.
He scored 220 league goals in a nine-year career at Spurs, taking in 331 appearances before leaving for West Ham United in a deal involving Martin Peters that was valued at £200,000.
Greaves made his England debut in May 1959 and played in all four games in the 1962 World Cup in Chile before they lost in the quarter-final to eventual winners Brazil.
Despite his magnificent England career, which included a record six hat-tricks, Greaves will always be defined in an international context as the man who missed the 1966 World Cup final.
Greaves suffered a leg wound that needed 14 stitches after a challenge by France's Joseph Bonnel in the last group game at Wembley, allowing Hurst to come in and make history with that final hat-trick as the single-minded manager Sir Alf Ramsey refused to alter a winning team.
Greaves initially didn't receive a World Cup winners' medal, because only the 11 who played at Wembley were eligible. However, he was finally presented with one, along with other squad members, backroom staff and surviving families, at a Downing Street ceremony in June 2009 after Fifa changed the rules. He later sold it at a sports memorabilia auction in London for £44,000.
He even made his mark on the 1970 World Cup when his England career was long behind him. Greaves entered the 'London To Mexico World Cup Rally' driving a Ford Escort and finished a very respectable sixth with co-driver Tony Fall.
Greaves moved to Upton Park in March 1970 and even though his best years were behind him, he still kept up his record of scoring on every major debut with two goals as West Ham beat Manchester City 5-1 on a Maine Road mudheap, an occasion preserved for posterity by the Match of the Day cameras.
The decade was also the low point of Greaves' descent into alcoholism, admitting in an interview with The Guardian in August 2003: "I lost the '70s completely. They passed me by. I was drunk from 1972 to 1977. I woke up one morning and realised that it was a different world. I'd been living in it, but I hadn't been aware of it."
Greaves, who was by then living in a one-bedroomed flat in Wanstead in east London and making a living selling women's jumpers, admitted he would drink 20 pints of beer a day, then go home and work his way through a bottle of vodka before going to bed.
In that dark spell Greaves played for Barnet, an experience he remembered fondly as he regained some of his love for the game, often reminding those who reeled off his list of clubs as Chelsea, AC Milan, Spurs and West Ham United with the affectionate words: "And Barnet."
He finally stopped drinking in February 1978 and never touched alcohol again.
He appeared on ITV Sport's 'On The Ball' football magazine programme before getting his own show alongside sparring partner and former Liverpool striker Ian St John, who died in March 2021, on 'Saint And Greavsie', which ran from 1985 to 1992.
Greaves often hid his immense knowledge and perceptive observations behind light-hearted quick wit and charm, but it led to a whole new chapter in his life as the public warmly embraced his plain-speaking and humour.
Apart from a testimonial game against Feyenoord in 1972, it was the first time Greaves had returned to White Hart Lane other than for his work as a pundit and to attend a memorial service for the manager who signed him, Nicholson, in 2004.
On the night before Greaves' 80th birthday on 20 February this year, Spurs celebrated the landmark when they faced RB Leipzig in the Champions League.
They produced a souvenir programme in tribute to his achievements on a night when many of Greaves' family and friends were guests of honours.
Greaves was not well enough to attend but Spurs' latter-day prolific goal scorer Harry Kane marked the occasion by presenting a gift to the great man's eldest son Danny and one of his grandchildren Hannah.
The big screen at Spurs' palatial new home flashed up some of Greaves' magic and goals at half-time - and the crowd rose just as those before them had done more than 50 years ago at the old White Hart Lane.
Greaves' ability to glide past defenders with ease, his ruthlessness and his knack of being able to pass the ball into the net did justice to those who compare his gifts with that of modern-day superstar Lionel Messi.
It was a fitting tribute to one of the most natural goal scorers the world has ever seen - and a man who overcame personal demons to make himself a national institution in his second career on TV.
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Post by bluetornados on Oct 6, 2021 16:51:40 GMT
There is a documentary about Jimmy called "Greavsie" on Monday 11th October on ITV at 11.05pm - 12.50am, well worth a watch either tape or on catch up.
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Post by mangogas15 on Oct 7, 2021 7:01:17 GMT
There is a documentary about Jimmy called "Greavsie" on Monday 11th October on ITV at 11.05pm - 12.50am, well worth a watch either tape or on catch up. Deserves an 8pm slot
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Post by lostinspace on Oct 7, 2021 9:39:07 GMT
Stumbled across a tribute by Greaves to Bobby Moore, in true JG fashion some hilarious bits in there and the pair of them and a few run ins with Alf Ramsey,
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Post by bluetornados on Oct 12, 2021 14:09:27 GMT
There is a documentary about Jimmy called "Greavsie" on Monday 11th October on ITV at 11.05pm - 12.50am, well worth a watch either tape or on catch up. Watched it last night and it did not disappoint, a great in depth programme on the life and times of the great Jimmy Greaves. A few more stats have emerged from his non-league career, now have data for his time at Chelmsford City, also London XI (1955-58). His overall career record for London XI, Chelsea, A.C.Milan, Tottenham, West Ham, Chelmsford, Barnet, England & U23's is: Played 777 - Goals 526 = 0.67 Goal Ratio. There is no data available from his time playing for Brentwood Town or Woodford Town, Brentwood (48) & Woodford (57) scored these league goals, Jimmy..? Every minute of his professional career was played in the top division.
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Post by bluetornados on May 25, 2023 14:36:15 GMT
Looking up games from the past on youtube and found Jimmy's first game for West Ham v Man.City 1970, he scored on every debut match for all his teams.
I have seen many of the Big Match re-runs and have seen what the pitches were like, but this game really shows what the elite players were playing on.
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