Cheshiregas
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Post by Cheshiregas on Sept 14, 2021 15:54:22 GMT
Maybe we should have persisted with Severnside. There'd be ample parking there and surely the concerns for the safety of spectators at a once a fortnight event are no different to the thousands of employees in the various distribution depots that sit within range of the chemical storage tanks.
I'm glad we didn't. The company that was set up to handle that project was a joint venture with the owners of Eastville who forced us out. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 16:10:06 GMT
Maybe we should have persisted with Severnside. There'd be ample parking there and surely the concerns for the safety of spectators at a once a fortnight event are no different to the thousands of employees in the various distribution depots that sit within range of the chemical storage tanks.
I'm glad we didn't. The company that was set up to handle that project was a joint venture with the owners of Eastville who forced us out. And now own Torquay United. |
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Post by a more piratey game on Sept 14, 2021 16:17:10 GMT
I'm glad we didn't. The company that was set up to handle that project was a joint venture with the owners of Eastville who forced us out. And now own Torquay United.  |
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Post by towngas on Sept 14, 2021 17:11:48 GMT
I think WAQ is content in the 3rd or 4th tiers.He has no real intention of reaching the 2nd tier or a new stadium. How on earth can you say this. You have no evidence to support such a statement. |
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Post by a more piratey game on Sept 14, 2021 17:28:49 GMT
I think WAQ is content in the 3rd or 4th tiers.He has no real intention of reaching the 2nd tier or a new stadium. How on earth can you say this. You have no evidence to support such a statement. I think he's shown £20m of ambition for starters |
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Post by gastower on Sept 14, 2021 17:31:25 GMT
I think WAQ is content in the 3rd or 4th tiers.He has no real intention of reaching the 2nd tier or a new stadium. How on earth can you say this. You have no evidence to support such a statement. Spoke to two ex directors a year or so ago, they were both of the opinion that the family had no intention of building the UWE ( although they gave me no reasons).However I am not sure we know for definite that Wael will not produce some artist impressions in the future |
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Post by a more piratey game on Sept 14, 2021 17:35:24 GMT
How on earth can you say this. You have no evidence to support such a statement. Spoke to two ex directors a year or so ago, they were both of the opinion that the family had no intention of building the UWE ( although they gave me no reasons).However I am not sure we know for definite that Wael will not produce some artist impressions in the future Did they mean when the AQs bought the club, or later after the expert inputs from those expert experts? |
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Post by gasprom on Sept 14, 2021 17:39:52 GMT
How on earth can you say this. You have no evidence to support such a statement. I think he's shown £20m of ambition for starters Average salaries in the championship are 7 times higher than league 1. Given our lack of facilities I would say it would be down to Wael to fund making us competitive at that level rather than relying on our turnover. It would be good to see us intent on challenging for a place in the third tier before we start worrying about that first though. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 18:55:02 GMT
How on earth can you say this. You have no evidence to support such a statement. I think he's shown £20m of ambition for starters Wasn't that to cover losses rather than new money? I am thankful to him for covering his losses though. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 18:56:21 GMT
I think WAQ is content in the 3rd or 4th tiers.He has no real intention of reaching the 2nd tier or a new stadium. How on earth can you say this. You have no evidence to support such a statement. It's an opinion and Basel is entitled to it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 18:57:51 GMT
How on earth can you say this. You have no evidence to support such a statement. Spoke to two ex directors a year or so ago, they were both of the opinion that the family had no intention of building the UWE ( although they gave me no reasons).However I am not sure we know for definite that Wael will not produce some artist impressions in the future I spoke to possibly one of your two and he expressed the same opinion. |
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Post by a more piratey game on Sept 14, 2021 19:01:13 GMT
I think he's shown £20m of ambition for starters Wasn't that to cover losses rather than new money? I am thankful to him for covering his losses though. The only difference between covering losses and new money is timing Wael's still £20m out of pocket |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 19:28:13 GMT
Wasn't that to cover losses rather than new money? I am thankful to him for covering his losses though. The only difference between covering losses and new money is timing Wael's still £20m out of pocket Nothing to do with timing, it's paying for poor decision making. The latter is true. |
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Post by a more piratey game on Sept 14, 2021 19:39:15 GMT
The only difference between covering losses and new money is timing Wael's still £20m out of pocket Nothing to do with timing, it's paying for poor decision making. The latter is true. Eh? You can put the cash in, and then make the loss, or fund the loss by other means, and then plug the gap with cash. That's only timing The cause of the loss is the decisions |
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Post by baselswh on Sept 14, 2021 19:40:38 GMT
I think WAQ is content in the 3rd or 4th tiers.He has no real intention of reaching the 2nd tier or a new stadium. How on earth can you say this. You have no evidence to support such a statement. All circumstantial evidence. WAQ was very comfortable about seeing our promotion challenge with GC disappear.It was as if our challenge did'nt exist. In one interview,around the BG,eternal pass era - sorry,I can't remember which one,but it was recorded - he dropped his guard for a moment and imo it became clear he did'nt believe in our promotion chances to the 2nd tier and worse,he did'nt want it. Too much nonsense and ununited WAQ 'led' boards.You do not succeed if El Presidente is being stabbed in the back.It means confusing orders from the top.The 'charge of the Rovers brigade'. 5 years into his reign and we're 4th tier.No new stadium.Facts. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 20:32:15 GMT
I'm glad we didn't. The company that was set up to handle that project was a joint venture with the owners of Eastville who forced us out. And now own Torquay United. They also own a couple of greyhound & Speedway stadiums, including Swindon. If you do some digging you will see they are 'supposedly' developing that stadium at Blunsdon, its 'On hold' but in reality will be selling it off for housing. Its very sad.
Not to be trusted is an understatement.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 20:38:31 GMT
that looks a lot like the Quarters, doesn't it? Right now it doesn't look much like it at all. But if the Quarters is a ten year project then by 2030 it may look like the Stevenage FC training ground did in 2014. I thought you were of the view there was no need to develop a Training ground (like Stevenage) as its better to rent?
Pleased that you have changed your mind.
Interesting that when Stevenage purchased the site in 2011 they were firmly of the view that the club needed something like that in order to progress.
Everyone on the same page at last
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Post by a more piratey game on Sept 14, 2021 20:50:26 GMT
Right now it doesn't look much like it at all. But if the Quarters is a ten year project then by 2030 it may look like the Stevenage FC training ground did in 2014. I thought you were of the view there was no need to develop a Training ground (like Stevenage) as its better to rent?
Pleased that you have changed your mind.
Interesting that when Stevenage purchased the site in 2011 they were firmly of the view that the club needed something like that in order to progress.
Everyone on the same page at last
At the risk of contradicting contradiction, I can't see where swiss has said or implied that he's changed his (in my view incorrect) view |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 21:10:34 GMT
I thought you were of the view there was no need to develop a Training ground (like Stevenage) as its better to rent?
Pleased that you have changed your mind.
Interesting that when Stevenage purchased the site in 2011 they were firmly of the view that the club needed something like that in order to progress.
Everyone on the same page at last
At the risk of contradicting contradiction, I can't see where swiss has said or implied that he's changed his (in my view incorrect) view Merely an assumption Piratey, based on Swiss' previous posts suggesting a better way foward for BRFC would have been to rent.
For him to now hold up Stevenage's purchase and development of their training ground rather than give an example of a club renting would be an.... um....contradiction of his previous position perhaps.
I'm sure he will pop in to clarify that in fact developing the Colony site was a rubbish decision come what may, however good Stevenage's looks after 10 years.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 21:18:21 GMT
I thought phase #2 expansion of the quarters clubhouse (from t-shape to rectangular) was so that the Academy could also be housed at the quarters?, so I do hope we will have enough pitches, very little information available so I may be wrong. Very little information about- that is the understatement of all. Wael had said that it was a priority, in one of his first interviews but it looks and sounds no different to what was happening, many years prior to that.
Bloody hell KP you talking about the same place?
18 months ago the Quarters/Colony site was an overgrown wasteland. To view the site now compared to then is like chalk and cheese. One thing it is certainly not is "no different to many years before". If in doubt just look at some pictures.
Hope you are feeling better by the way.
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