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Post by Peter Parker on Sept 4, 2021 9:16:33 GMT
FYI of you havent seen this
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I have had to work when the meetings have taken place, but have been informed that we are back on Saturday (although outside the stadium only initially, so I won't be selling at the Drapers and the Welly, or walking around the terraces, so please buy one on the way in.
Please note that it will still be cash payments, so bring your lucky gold nuggets, or shrapnel.
The FC are arranging for the counting and auditing of tickets to save the committee and volunteers doing this 30 mins after kick off. The FC will also arrange the announcement of the winning tickets and payments to the lucky winners.
Let's hope it is a bumper
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Post by dido on Sept 4, 2021 9:42:18 GMT
And Dave's recent reminder:
''Just a reminder.
- bring cash
- no sales at Welly, Drapers or inside the ground. (If anyone misses their pre match ritual of buying a ticket off me, I will be on the first corner after Muller Rd, so just down from the Welly).
- the SC sales hut will be open
Please spread the word.
Tom G is arranging for advertising/promotion of the return of the 50/50/programme sellers but the more people who know, the better.
Let's make it a bumper prize. Good luck!''
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2021 10:06:30 GMT
What a mess.
Just upset and confusion for the sake of it.
We have our loyal, dedicated group left to try to promote sales that benefit nobody but the FC whilst certain locations which have traditionally been areas where tickets have sold well are now apparently out of bounds.
Why? Because Gorringe couldn't organise getting himself drunk in a brewery.
Seriously, what's wrong with the bloke?
Huge thanks to the foot soldiers who are ignoring the politics and doing what they've always done, keeping their heads down and just getting on with supporting the club in the best way they can.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 4, 2021 10:30:19 GMT
FYI of you havent seen this scdave Avatar scdave Reserve Team *** Sep 1, 2021 at 7:11pm Russgas, 84gas, and 4 more like this Quote likePost Options Options I have had to work when the meetings have taken place, but have been informed that we are back on Saturday (although outside the stadium only initially, so I won't be selling at the Drapers and the Welly, or walking around the terraces, so please buy one on the way in. Please note that it will still be cash payments, so bring your lucky gold nuggets, or shrapnel. The FC are arranging for the counting and auditing of tickets to save the committee and volunteers doing this 30 mins after kick off. The FC will also arrange the announcement of the winning tickets and payments to the lucky winners. Let's hope it is a bumper In other words, you sell and we will make sure no one is skimming, …except us 😘 |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 4, 2021 10:36:40 GMT
What a mess. Just upset and confusion for the sake of it. We have our loyal, dedicated group left to try to promote sales that benefit nobody but the FC whilst certain locations which have traditionally been areas where tickets have sold well are now apparently out of bounds. Why? Because Gorringe couldn't organise getting himself drunk in a brewery. Seriously, what's wrong with the bloke? Huge thanks to the foot soldiers who are ignoring the politics and doing what they've always done, keeping their heads down and just getting on with supporting the club in the best way they can. A very positive and very supportive guy, posted a scathing piece about TG and Wael on facebook. I was stunned as he would normally NEVER have a word bad said of them or the club, he shared his experiences so he was writing from personal experience. His paragraph on TG didn’t hold back and he tagged Wael too. Rich is furious about the actions and rank amateur nature of changes and Wael will have read it If Rich can feel like that then I can only think a fair few others have reached tipping point. I wish I had his permission to post it here and because he could , openly, be labelled a rose tinter. It’s beyond a joke now and stinks to high heaven |
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Post by Angas on Sept 4, 2021 11:44:53 GMT
FYI of you havent seen this scdave Avatar scdave Reserve Team *** Sep 1, 2021 at 7:11pm Russgas, 84gas, and 4 more like this Quote likePost Options Options I have had to work when the meetings have taken place, but have been informed that we are back on Saturday (although outside the stadium only initially, so I won't be selling at the Drapers and the Welly, or walking around the terraces, so please buy one on the way in. Please note that it will still be cash payments, so bring your lucky gold nuggets, or shrapnel. The FC are arranging for the counting and auditing of tickets to save the committee and volunteers doing this 30 mins after kick off. The FC will also arrange the announcement of the winning tickets and payments to the lucky winners. Let's hope it is a bumper In other words, you sell and we will make sure no one is skimming, …except us 😘 Exactly what jumped out at me as well KP. Pretty obvious they want to ensure all monies reach the club - the suggestion being perhaps they haven't always. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 4, 2021 14:32:34 GMT
We are not even competing now. Crawley are starting to lay on the pressure while we look good if ideas
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 4, 2021 14:46:55 GMT
Keeping to a back 3 and producing nothing. We are worse than any word I know to use
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 4, 2021 15:08:19 GMT
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 4, 2021 20:20:27 GMT
What a mess. Just upset and confusion for the sake of it. We have our loyal, dedicated group left to try to promote sales that benefit nobody but the FC whilst certain locations which have traditionally been areas where tickets have sold well are now apparently out of bounds. Why? Because Gorringe couldn't organise getting himself drunk in a brewery. Seriously, what's wrong with the bloke? Huge thanks to the foot soldiers who are ignoring the politics and doing what they've always done, keeping their heads down and just getting on with supporting the club in the best way they can. Well that is certainly ill informed one sided opinion. Probably an opinion that is unlikely to change. It's a shame, because there is sometimes a different story: Criticism about treating volunteers stalwarts of the club, heart and soul, best thing since sliced bread etc etc turn out to be completely unfounded, don't they? TG met most, if not all (as was invited) and professionally recognised also personally thanked them for their help and hard work, and offered most if not all the chance to continue. Just, under the club's patronage, not the JC club or SC as it's better known. The 50/50 volunteers are pretty much back in their place. Mostly. One even said not much has changed but they're doing it under the club's guidance now, not SC.......begs the question, if you like politics, why? So, whilst I'm disappointed in your postings on this and other thread, I'm not surprised. It's wound up and cranked up the anti club rhetoric, and fuelled more bs because the plain facts are: The volunteers haven't been mistreated at all or publicly humiliated, in fact the opposite is true and because they've been recognised as doing an important job, the club has taken them under their wing offering in house and club employment....and what's wrong with that? Dear oh dear.. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 4, 2021 20:22:41 GMT
In other words, you sell and we will make sure no one is skimming, …except us 😘 Exactly what jumped out at me as well KP. Pretty obvious they want to ensure all monies reach the club - the suggestion being perhaps they haven't always. Well, well, well..... It does make you wonder, doesn't it? 💡 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2021 20:57:00 GMT
What a mess. Just upset and confusion for the sake of it. We have our loyal, dedicated group left to try to promote sales that benefit nobody but the FC whilst certain locations which have traditionally been areas where tickets have sold well are now apparently out of bounds. Why? Because Gorringe couldn't organise getting himself drunk in a brewery. Seriously, what's wrong with the bloke? Huge thanks to the foot soldiers who are ignoring the politics and doing what they've always done, keeping their heads down and just getting on with supporting the club in the best way they can. Well that is certainly ill informed one sided opinion. Probably an opinion that is unlikely to change. It's a shame, because there is sometimes a different story: Criticism about treating volunteers stalwarts of the club, heart and soul, best thing since sliced bread etc etc turn out to be completely unfounded, don't they? TG met most, if not all (as was invited) and professionally recognised also personally thanked them for their help and hard work, and offered most if not all the chance to continue. Just, under the club's patronage, not the JC club or SC as it's better known. The 50/50 volunteers are pretty much back in their place. Mostly. One even said not much has changed but they're doing it under the club's guidance now, not SC.......begs the question, if you like politics, why? So, whilst I'm disappointed in your postings on this and other thread, I'm not surprised. It's wound up and cranked up the anti club rhetoric, and fuelled more bs because the plain facts are: The volunteers haven't been mistreated at all or publicly humiliated, in fact the opposite is true and because they've been recognised as doing an important job, the club has taken them under their wing offering in house and club employment....and what's wrong with that? Dear oh dear.. Well, riddle me this, if he possessed even the organisational abilities of a hedgehog why didn't he have that meeting with them during the summer and have them in place, making money for the club on that Saturday? Dear oh dear indeed. But hey, why are we surprised, Mintbet anybody? Or is that just 'Anti-club rhetoric as well? |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 4, 2021 21:03:56 GMT
Well that is certainly ill informed one sided opinion. Probably an opinion that is unlikely to change. It's a shame, because there is sometimes a different story: Criticism about treating volunteers stalwarts of the club, heart and soul, best thing since sliced bread etc etc turn out to be completely unfounded, don't they? TG met most, if not all (as was invited) and professionally recognised also personally thanked them for their help and hard work, and offered most if not all the chance to continue. Just, under the club's patronage, not the JC club or SC as it's better known. The 50/50 volunteers are pretty much back in their place. Mostly. One even said not much has changed but they're doing it under the club's guidance now, not SC.......begs the question, if you like politics, why? So, whilst I'm disappointed in your postings on this and other thread, I'm not surprised. It's wound up and cranked up the anti club rhetoric, and fuelled more bs because the plain facts are: The volunteers haven't been mistreated at all or publicly humiliated, in fact the opposite is true and because they've been recognised as doing an important job, the club has taken them under their wing offering in house and club employment....and what's wrong with that? Dear oh dear.. Well, riddle me this, if he possessed even the organisational abilities of a hedgehog why didn't he have that meeting with them during the summer and have them in place, making money for the club on that Saturday? Dear oh dear indeed. But hey, why are we surprised, Mintbet anybody? Or is that just 'Anti-club rhetoric as well? The thread is about 50/50 ticket sellers. I honestly don't know is the direct answer to your question. (I'm not being evasive, I genuinely don't know the timing or why it's important....I suspect it's more important to your post's to ramp up the anti agenda, but that's only my supposition) Care to answer my questions? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2021 21:12:33 GMT
Well, riddle me this, if he possessed even the organisational abilities of a hedgehog why didn't he have that meeting with them during the summer and have them in place, making money for the club on that Saturday? Dear oh dear indeed. But hey, why are we surprised, Mintbet anybody? Or is that just 'Anti-club rhetoric as well? The thread is about 50/50 ticket sellers. I honestly don't know is the direct answer to your question. (I'm not being evasive, I genuinely don't know the timing or why it's important....I suspect it's more important to your post's to ramp up the anti agenda, but that's only my supposition) Care to answer my questions? When you start off stating an incorrect supposition as fact you aren't getting any answers to your loaded questions. Sorry. Now, what about this Mintbet situation, this is a simple one, the person responsible for that should have lost their job. Do you agree? It just struck me, you think I'm on board with the SC in their battles with the FC. Nope, not at all, the SC are architects of their own downfall and the volunteers are innocent casualties, caught in the crossfire. That's why I'm angry with the FC, getting those helpers back on board looks very much like an afterthought. If it was part of the overall strategy it would have been planned through summer and they would have been there for the pre-season games, as they always have been. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 4, 2021 21:27:37 GMT
The thread is about 50/50 ticket sellers. I honestly don't know is the direct answer to your question. (I'm not being evasive, I genuinely don't know the timing or why it's important....I suspect it's more important to your post's to ramp up the anti agenda, but that's only my supposition) Care to answer my questions? When you start off stating an incorrect supposition as fact you aren't getting any answers to your loaded questions. Sorry. Now, what about this Mintbet situation, this is a simple one, the person responsible for that should have lost their job. Do you agree? It just struck me, you think I'm on board with the SC in their battles with the FC. Nope, not at all, the SC are architects of their own downfall and the volunteers are innocent casualties, caught in the crossfire. That's why I'm angry with the FC, getting those helpers back on board looks very much like an afterthought. If it was part of the overall strategy it would have been planned through summer and they would have been there for the pre-season games, as they always have been. Haha! Na, I thought not. Volunteers haven't been treated poorly by the club, in FACT quite the opposite! They were recognised for their endeavours and offered the same positions working for the club, not JC.... that's a fact. The funding for 50/50 has been taken in house now. Where 4 or 5 seasons ago there wasn't a half time announcement or draw to how much was won (on a Mickey Mouse match) on 50/50 and it was later discovered, after prompting, who won jackpot?... surprise surprise a SC dignitary did! Wtf!? So it's been withdrawn from SC.... that's a fact. Interesting what you call incorrect supposition, is indeed, fact!? Your posts (in this thread) were at best premature and prejudicial, and at worst disingenuous. ...and poor attempt at distraction with something called MB. I think I've got a replica shirt with that on.... another marketing genius from maestro TG there....it inspired me to buy one! It's a limited edition! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2021 21:39:16 GMT
When you start off stating an incorrect supposition as fact you aren't getting any answers to your loaded questions. Sorry. Now, what about this Mintbet situation, this is a simple one, the person responsible for that should have lost their job. Do you agree? It just struck me, you think I'm on board with the SC in their battles with the FC. Nope, not at all, the SC are architects of their own downfall and the volunteers are innocent casualties, caught in the crossfire. That's why I'm angry with the FC, getting those helpers back on board looks very much like an afterthought. If it was part of the overall strategy it would have been planned through summer and they would have been there for the pre-season games, as they always have been. Haha! Na, I thought not. Volunteers haven't been treated poorly by the club, in FACT quite the opposite! They were recognised for their endeavours and offered the same positions working for the club, not JC.... that's a fact. The funding for 50/50 has been taken in house now. Where 4 or 5 seasons ago there wasn't a half time announcement or draw to how much was won (on a Mickey Mouse match) on 50/50 and it was later discovered, after prompting, who won jackpot?... surprise surprise a SC dignitary did! Wtf!? So it's been withdrawn from SC.... that's a fact. Interesting what you call incorrect supposition, is indeed, fact!? Your posts (in this thread) were at best premature and prejudicial, and at worst disingenuous. ...and poor attempt at distraction with something called MB. I think I've got a replica shirt with that on.... another marketing genius from maestro TG there....it inspired me to buy one! It's a limited edition! Oh I see, so at what level of hierarchy should SC officials be barred from purchasing tickets? No doubt you want to ban sales in the executive boxes as well, just in case a club official buys a winning ticket. When I knew the numbers involved they were, in broad terms, with 1800~2000 ticket sales, between 300~400 would be sold in the Box area. Another piece of marketing genius from the club's supporters. Poor attempts at humour to brush over what happened with MintBet. OK, if that's all you have. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 4, 2021 21:47:21 GMT
Haha! Na, I thought not. Volunteers haven't been treated poorly by the club, in FACT quite the opposite! They were recognised for their endeavours and offered the same positions working for the club, not JC.... that's a fact. The funding for 50/50 has been taken in house now. Where 4 or 5 seasons ago there wasn't a half time announcement or draw to how much was won (on a Mickey Mouse match) on 50/50 and it was later discovered, after prompting, who won jackpot?... surprise surprise a SC dignitary did! Wtf!? So it's been withdrawn from SC.... that's a fact. Interesting what you call incorrect supposition, is indeed, fact!? Your posts (in this thread) were at best premature and prejudicial, and at worst disingenuous. ...and poor attempt at distraction with something called MB. I think I've got a replica shirt with that on.... another marketing genius from maestro TG there....it inspired me to buy one! It's a limited edition! Oh I see, so at what level of hierarchy should SC officials be barred from purchasing tickets? No doubt you want to ban sales in the executive boxes as well, just in case a club official buys a winning ticket. When I knew the numbers involved they were, in broad terms, with 1800~2000 ticket sales, between 300~400 would be sold in the Box area. Another piece of marketing genius from the club's supporters. Poor attempts at humour to brush over what happened with MintBet. OK, if that's all you have. Facts still not answered! ...but then that suits the rhetoric of the posts. Choosing to ignore them doesn't make them go away. Unfortunately, with the amount of mud thrown around on false ideas that just aren't true and never were, it doesn't stick with folk whom can see the club has done something positive regarding 50/50 volunteers. That you can't even acknowledge! Haha! I'm back to dear oh deary me .. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2021 22:01:33 GMT
Oh I see, so at what level of hierarchy should SC officials be barred from purchasing tickets? No doubt you want to ban sales in the executive boxes as well, just in case a club official buys a winning ticket. When I knew the numbers involved they were, in broad terms, with 1800~2000 ticket sales, between 300~400 would be sold in the Box area. Another piece of marketing genius from the club's supporters. Poor attempts at humour to brush over what happened with MintBet. OK, if that's all you have. Facts still not answered! ...but then that suits the rhetoric of the posts. Choosing to ignore them doesn't make them go away. Unfortunately, with the amount of mud thrown around on false ideas that just aren't true and never were, it doesn't stick with folk whom can see the club has done something positive regarding 50/50 volunteers. That you can't even acknowledge! Haha! I'm back to dear oh deary me .. What are you babbling on about? Eventually, belatedly, some of the original sellers are back in some of the original posts. It's for your side of this to explain why there was any interruption at all. We are supposed to have moved in to a new era of communication, if getting in touch with those volunteers wasn't an afterthought then why wasn't it broadcast on social media etc, here we go, I'll knock it up right now, it'll take literally seconds. ''Please be advised that there will not be any 50/50 ticket or programme sales undertaken by SC volunteers for a short period whilst we put in place new systems. We value those volunteers who have given their time to support the club and will be meeting with them shortly after the new season commences to agree with them how we can best work together to ensure that they are involved on match days and that you are still able to purchase your programmes and 50/50 tickets. We'll update you again in the very near future''. First, very rough draft, took maybe 45 seconds to write. Splosh that onto social media and the official site, email as many of the volunteers as they have contact info for asking them to get in touch with any other match day volunteers that they know, give them a point of contact in case they have questions. It ain't hard. Now, about these outstanding questions that you appear to be struggling with; Should the MintBet fiasco have resulted in someone losing their job? It's not difficult, just consider, would you personally continue to employ someone who made that mistake, then reply with a Yes or a No. Then we can move on to who you wish to disqualify from purchasing half time draw tickets. |
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Post by swissgas on Sept 4, 2021 23:58:02 GMT
Should the club give a commitment that all the profit raised by the 50/50 draw will continue to go directly to the Academy and not be allowed to disappear into Rovers financial abyss ?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 5, 2021 7:03:16 GMT
Facts still not answered! ...but then that suits the rhetoric of the posts. Choosing to ignore them doesn't make them go away. Unfortunately, with the amount of mud thrown around on false ideas that just aren't true and never were, it doesn't stick with folk whom can see the club has done something positive regarding 50/50 volunteers. That you can't even acknowledge! Haha! I'm back to dear oh deary me .. What are you babbling on about? Eventually, belatedly, some of the original sellers are back in some of the original posts. It's for your side of this to explain why there was any interruption at all. We are supposed to have moved in to a new era of communication, if getting in touch with those volunteers wasn't an afterthought then why wasn't it broadcast on social media etc, here we go, I'll knock it up right now, it'll take literally seconds. ''Please be advised that there will not be any 50/50 ticket or programme sales undertaken by SC volunteers for a short period whilst we put in place new systems. We value those volunteers who have given their time to support the club and will be meeting with them shortly after the new season commences to agree with them how we can best work together to ensure that they are involved on match days and that you are still able to purchase your programmes and 50/50 tickets. We'll update you again in the very near future''. First, very rough draft, took maybe 45 seconds to write. Splosh that onto social media and the official site, email as many of the volunteers as they have contact info for asking them to get in touch with any other match day volunteers that they know, give them a point of contact in case they have questions. It ain't hard. Now, about these outstanding questions that you appear to be struggling with; Should the MintBet fiasco have resulted in someone losing their job? It's not difficult, just consider, would you personally continue to employ someone who made that mistake, then reply with a Yes or a No. Then we can move on to who you wish to disqualify from purchasing half time draw tickets. Some sort of clarification, I suppose. "Eventually, belatedly some of the original sellers are back in some of the original posts"....yep, that's about right, thanks for the courtesy of addressing my point, but they were not mistreated as other threads have implied, and your comment is fair. It appears some of your post is now referring to poor communication, the 45 seconds of money shot. We (you and I) know little about this with regards to behind the scenes (in)activity. I think TG, JC and maybe a few others are in the know about this.....for instance in Waels letter, he refers to SC not replying to his multiple attempts to contact them. Perhaps, I'm just guessing, the unfortunate outcome of all this resulted in poor communication to the 50/50 tellers? That would make sense to me. Mintbet.... what's it to do with 50/50 ticket sellers? What is it good for? Absolutely nothing! Oh, hang on here BambiColumbo, I think you might have something here..... there's absolutely nothing wrong with anyone buying a ticket from any walk of life, dignitaries of the club, convicts, past convicts, even c*ty'82 lot but when transparency is lost I think it's only fair to ask questions. Ergo (not on the back of that, a lot more) the 50/50 is being brought in house. What's wrong with that? |
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