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Post by droitwichgas on Jan 18, 2020 19:26:36 GMT
I would be more concerned that they would run away. In all seriousness there are no new buyers who in their right mind would buy BRFC? Accept what we are and thank our lucky stars we are not going same way as Bury or Bolton. There's usually always somebody daft enough to buy a football club!
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Post by swissgas on Jan 18, 2020 19:45:44 GMT
Perhaps a pertinent question for Martyn Starnes would have been “ how long does it take to arrange a ground share and get it approved by the football authorities ?” One crumb of comfort is that in the survey on the other forum 33% of fans like Wael’s ownership and 33% are undecided. So when he makes an appeal for funds to help the club survive there should be plenty of people willing to give generously. Swiss,do you think that Rovers will go bust ? I think that if attendances keep falling and season ticket sales drop,the qadi might try and close the club down and get as much money as they can, could they do that ? I expect that any action they take would be when the seasons over so that there could be no embarrassing scenes at matches. I have no doubt that the Mem will be sold to repay Dwane Sports and the football club will have to find a new home but the big question is how orderly a process this will be. In an ideal world our new owners will be credible, properly financed and have a plan which we can all embrace even if that means ground sharing for a period. The danger is that those making the decisions will have little interest in what happens to Rovers and a deal is concocted which gets Dwane Sports off the hook but puts Rovers future in serious jeopardy. As Oldie has pointed out elsewhere it is no use having business experience and a plan if you don’t have sufficient capital to implement that plan. So although I don’t think Rovers will go bust in the short term there is concern about the next stage. And the way to prevent that happening is to do something about it now.
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Post by droitwichgas on Jan 18, 2020 20:09:12 GMT
Swiss,do you think that Rovers will go bust ? I think that if attendances keep falling and season ticket sales drop,the qadi might try and close the club down and get as much money as they can, could they do that ? I expect that any action they take would be when the seasons over so that there could be no embarrassing scenes at matches. I have no doubt that the Mem will be sold to repay Dwane Sports and the football club will have to find a new home but the big question is how orderly a process this will be. In an ideal world our new owners will be credible, properly financed and have a plan which we can all embrace even if that means ground sharing for a period. The danger is that those making the decisions will have little interest in what happens to Rovers and a deal is concocted which gets Dwane Sports off the hook but puts Rovers future in serious jeopardy. As Oldie has pointed out elsewhere it is no use having business experience and a plan if you don’t have sufficient capital to implement that plan. So although I don’t think Rovers will go bust in the short term there is concern about the next stage. And the way to prevent that happening is to do something about it now. I doubt BCC would let the ALQ's just sell the ground and grant pp for housing etc unless we had alternative stadium within Bristol, I can't see them letting us move to Swindon etc, just hope Gashead Marvin is re-elected in May!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 20:16:56 GMT
I thought the interview was evasive and the laughing was insulting to twenymen and fans. Also he blatantly lied when answering the question about communication,i mean everyone knows that aspect of the ownership has been dreadful.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 20:26:47 GMT
I have no doubt that the Mem will be sold to repay Dwane Sports and the football club will have to find a new home but the big question is how orderly a process this will be. In an ideal world our new owners will be credible, properly financed and have a plan which we can all embrace even if that means ground sharing for a period. The danger is that those making the decisions will have little interest in what happens to Rovers and a deal is concocted which gets Dwane Sports off the hook but puts Rovers future in serious jeopardy. As Oldie has pointed out elsewhere it is no use having business experience and a plan if you don’t have sufficient capital to implement that plan. So although I don’t think Rovers will go bust in the short term there is concern about the next stage. And the way to prevent that happening is to do something about it now. I doubt BCC would let the ALQ's just sell the ground and grant pp for housing etc unless we had alternative stadium within Bristol, I can't see them letting us move to Swindon etc, just hope Gashead Marvin is re-elected in May! How would they stop it if the Al Qadi’s wanted to sell the ground? The only comparable situation to my mind is when Blackburn fans fought a court case against Venkys to get their training ground listed as an Asset of Community Value to stop them selling it off. I believe they lost. That’s the route we would have to go down, we couldn’t depend on the council to get involved in a business transaction of private property that DS own being sold to another party. There is the issue of the covenant but from what I understand that seems to be a flimsy protection at best.
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Post by swissgas on Jan 18, 2020 20:33:52 GMT
I have no doubt that the Mem will be sold to repay Dwane Sports and the football club will have to find a new home but the big question is how orderly a process this will be. In an ideal world our new owners will be credible, properly financed and have a plan which we can all embrace even if that means ground sharing for a period. The danger is that those making the decisions will have little interest in what happens to Rovers and a deal is concocted which gets Dwane Sports off the hook but puts Rovers future in serious jeopardy. As Oldie has pointed out elsewhere it is no use having business experience and a plan if you don’t have sufficient capital to implement that plan. So although I don’t think Rovers will go bust in the short term there is concern about the next stage. And the way to prevent that happening is to do something about it now. I doubt BCC would let the ALQ's just sell the ground and grant pp for housing etc unless we had alternative stadium within Bristol, I can't see them letting us move to Swindon etc, just hope Gashead Marvin is re-elected in May! Planning conditions and land development aren’t really my speciality but there is a precedent of permission being given for the Mem and once ownership is transferred to someone else it becomes their issue. But whoever buys it will know their business and will be aware of what will be allowed and what profit potential there is on the site. The Council are sure to want Rovers to have a home but I cannot see them being able to stop a sale and if they tried to then opponents would argue that a rented/ shared stadium is perfectly adequate.
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Post by fanatical on Jan 18, 2020 20:35:04 GMT
Perhaps a pertinent question for Martyn Starnes would have been “ how long does it take to arrange a ground share and get it approved by the football authorities ?” One crumb of comfort is that in the survey on the other forum 33% of fans like Wael’s ownership and 33% are undecided. So when he makes an appeal for funds to help the club survive there should be plenty of people willing to give generously.
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 18, 2020 21:04:51 GMT
Perhaps a pertinent question for Martyn Starnes would have been “ how long does it take to arrange a ground share and get it approved by the football authorities ?” One crumb of comfort is that in the survey on the other forum 33% of fans like Wael’s ownership and 33% are undecided. So when he makes an appeal for funds to help the club survive there should be plenty of people willing to give generously. Stunning. 33% "like Wael's ownership". It's only a small poll, but based on that, I would conclude that around 1/3 of our own fan-base would appear to be morons.
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Post by bondigas on Jan 18, 2020 23:15:31 GMT
What a shabby little individual, the fella came across in the interview as uncaring, cocky, arrogant and not bothered about the destiney or future of the club or its fans. Not sure he will be doing to many more interviews, his master will not be pleased with him, no pal in his dog bowl in the morning. We are returning to the old Eastville days of the faithful few, nothing to excite us going further faster as he said twice, odd expression, further faster, I wonder where he heard that first.
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Post by Mrs V Smegma on Jan 19, 2020 1:17:21 GMT
Perhaps a pertinent question for Martyn Starnes would have been “ how long does it take to arrange a ground share and get it approved by the football authorities ?” One crumb of comfort is that in the survey on the other forum 33% of fans like Wael’s ownership and 33% are undecided. So when he makes an appeal for funds to help the club survive there should be plenty of people willing to give generously. Stunning. 33% "like Wael's ownership". It's only a small poll, but based on that, I would conclude that around 1/3 of our own fan-base would appear to be morons. That’s much lower than the UK general public. 45.6% at last official count. Could be even higher than that. 52% the time before that
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Post by eppinggas on Jan 19, 2020 9:30:39 GMT
Stunning. 33% "like Wael's ownership". It's only a small poll, but based on that, I would conclude that around 1/3 of our own fan-base would appear to be morons. That’s much lower than the UK general public. 45.6% at last official count. Could be even higher than that. 52% the time before that Could have sworn it was 48%. .
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 21, 2020 13:37:58 GMT
Sam Frost yesterday...
Everything has its price Roberto, be it players, coaches, or indeed football clubs, so while the club might not be ‘for sale’, that does not mean it will not be sold.
I believe what Starnes said to be true. Wael Al-Qadi loves being the owner of a football club, and despite the criticism he gets it’s clear he cares. If he were to forfeit control of the club, he would probably like to stay involved in some way.
So there isn’t a desperation from the owners to move on, but of course they are open to the idea if it makes business sense, and if the fruit market consortium can secure the land for a new stadium, I would not expect the Al-Qadis to cling on and prevent that from happening.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 16:13:25 GMT
Sam Frost yesterday... Everything has its price Roberto, be it players, coaches, or indeed football clubs, so while the club might not be ‘for sale’, that does not mean it will not be sold. I believe what Starnes said to be true. Wael Al-Qadi loves being the owner of a football club, and despite the criticism he gets it’s clear he cares. If he were to forfeit control of the club, he would probably like to stay involved in some way. So there isn’t a desperation from the owners to move on, but of course they are open to the idea if it makes business sense, and if the fruit market consortium can secure the land for a new stadium, I would not expect the Al-Qadis to cling on and prevent that from happening. It would appear that the desire to remain only applies to one of the family. The other will let you know the details of the selling agent if you are interested.
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 21, 2020 16:29:18 GMT
Sam Frost yesterday... Everything has its price Roberto, be it players, coaches, or indeed football clubs, so while the club might not be ‘for sale’, that does not mean it will not be sold. I believe what Starnes said to be true. Wael Al-Qadi loves being the owner of a football club, and despite the criticism he gets it’s clear he cares. If he were to forfeit control of the club, he would probably like to stay involved in some way. So there isn’t a desperation from the owners to move on, but of course they are open to the idea if it makes business sense, and if the fruit market consortium can secure the land for a new stadium, I would not expect the Al-Qadis to cling on and prevent that from happening. It would appear that the desire to remain only applies to one of the family. The other will let you know the details of the selling agent if you are interested.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 23, 2020 12:59:29 GMT
Sam Frost yesterday... Everything has its price Roberto, be it players, coaches, or indeed football clubs, so while the club might not be ‘for sale’, that does not mean it will not be sold. I believe what Starnes said to be true. Wael Al-Qadi loves being the owner of a football club, and despite the criticism he gets it’s clear he cares. If he were to forfeit control of the club, he would probably like to stay involved in some way. So there isn’t a desperation from the owners to move on, but of course they are open to the idea if it makes business sense, and if the fruit market consortium can secure the land for a new stadium, I would not expect the Al-Qadis to cling on and prevent that from happening. It would appear that the desire to remain only applies to one of the family. The other will let you know the details of the selling agent if you are interested. I think this is where MS lost any semblance of being an honest man and GT couldn’t take him seriously after that. You could sense it, even in a radio interview. Total lack of confidence in the man and very obvious that he is yet another by proxy Wael’s man
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 23, 2020 13:06:03 GMT
It would appear that the desire to remain only applies to one of the family. The other will let you know the details of the selling agent if you are interested. I think this is where MS lost any semblance of being an honest man and GT couldn’t take him seriously after that. You could sense it, even in a radio interview. Total lack of confidence in the man and very obvious that he is yet another by proxy Wael’s man he who pays the piper calls the tune. GT knew that, as did MS. So the answers were not a surprise, and not a help really. I think neither of them will look back fondly on it
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 23, 2020 13:13:18 GMT
GT saying he will approach the SC in the next couple of days, we are no further forward I think any update on this - for Having a Gas, or any other?
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Post by GasMacc1 on Jan 23, 2020 22:35:10 GMT
GT saying he will approach the SC in the next couple of days, we are no further forward I think any update on this - for Having a Gas, or any other? GT ran the MS interview again. He then said he spoke with Jim Chappell on Monday and - "watch this space". GT said he would like to think, from what he's gleaned from his conversations, that both parties will get together - but that's not a guarantee.
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Post by a more piratey game on Jan 23, 2020 22:39:47 GMT
any update on this - for Having a Gas, or any other? GT ran the MS interview again. He then said he spoke with Jim Chappell on Monday and - "watch this space". GT said he would like to think, from what he's gleaned from his conversations, that both parties will get together - but that's not a guarantee. Ta gm
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