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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 18, 2019 16:44:57 GMT
I don't think hurling vile abuse in a crowd safely behind barriers at a small group of players is ever acceptable in any circumstance. For me excusing that type of behaviour is beyond the pale. Cool. I agree. I have never agreed with it, but question still goes unanswered.... Ok, what should folk do to express their concerns immediately post natch, sorry match?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 18, 2019 16:48:13 GMT
Well great, this is what forums are all about. Hey, whether anyone is in pub long periods (the way I understand it, it's completely understandable if we are playing the way we are!), instead of being fixated with cr@p football or say chatting, or on their mob most of 90mins (more commonly) is neither here nor there. They paid to get in and you rightly said they're entitled to their views and to express them in own way. Don't understand why anyone would be particularly narked..... it's their business isn't it? No one else's?Also neither here nor there, is the played football comment. I think GC played more football than most of us, and you're finding somewhere near 100% of disagreement with his selection/tactics/formation/post match comments.Ok, no lack of effort yesterday....most seem to not mention that as a problem, so that isn't an issue with the verbals. Ok, what should folk do to express their concerns immediately post natch, sorry match? I'll edit and say in a Eutopia, we are in it together, cool, wish was so....but unfortunately have a look at the car park on away matches at mem.....with some on loan so they're not our players, some nice new motors, some nice earning moneys, and being paid to perform as opposed to the average paying fan who stumps up his/her hard earned....some are more in it together than others. Of course it's their business, I just didn't like it. I'm not quite sure where you get the me nearly totally disagreeing with GC though. By the way, I often have far too much to drink at a football match and I often chat bollocks , I won't be offended if anyone points that out. Same here, Rex. I think some of us have been there at some point. Over the two forums, and chatting to some whom went, I struggle to find anyone whom thinks we played well.....most seem to see why he started his line up, ok fine.....but to have no shot on target? I can't find one sympathetic GasHead comments on this.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 16:50:54 GMT
I don't think hurling vile abuse in a crowd safely behind barriers at a small group of players is ever acceptable in any circumstance. For me excusing that type of behaviour is beyond the pale. Cool. I agree. I have never agreed with it, but question still goes unanswered.... Ok, what should folk do to express their concerns immediately post natch, sorry match? Well i curse to myself and go home,some people boo at full time which isn't my thing but its an expression of discontent. But the other stuff that goes on is simply not right even if players have nice cars. Its also gutless imo,from perfect safety hurling abuse at players.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 18, 2019 17:06:40 GMT
Cool. I agree. I have never agreed with it, but question still goes unanswered.... Ok, what should folk do to express their concerns immediately post natch, sorry match? Well i curse to myself and go home,some people boo at full time which isn't my thing but its an expression of discontent. But the other stuff that goes on is simply not right even if players have nice cars. Its also gutless imo,from perfect safety hurling abuse at players. I don't think there is a perfect answer. There is no right or wrong. But I'm not going to criticise anyone whom pays their way and feels losing and having no shots at goal isn't good enough. I can see that this might not sit right with some, and there might be a more positive way to express, but hey, I'm no judge. The thrust of what they're saying is because they care for their club and have paid more than others whom didn't travel, so kinda think fair play... Also, with the car comment, I truly feel there are some players that care more for that than their own performance, and think the implication I'm trying to put out there is some players care more than others, to pay to watch is far more far reaching and a privilege to those whom are paid to perform.... For the record, I've never booed our players or manager. I just quietly leave and probably moan on here too much....hey that's my way, others do as they please, funny thing is for all the moaning and abuse, most turn up again in the future! Why?!
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Post by mangogas15 on Aug 18, 2019 17:13:21 GMT
Oh well, Stefan Payne's back Tuesday...
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 18, 2019 17:22:36 GMT
Oh well, Stefan Payne's back Tuesday... I wonder how much abuse behind safety barriers will be exerted on Tuesday?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 17:25:57 GMT
Well i curse to myself and go home,some people boo at full time which isn't my thing but its an expression of discontent. But the other stuff that goes on is simply not right even if players have nice cars. Its also gutless imo,from perfect safety hurling abuse at players. I don't think there is a perfect answer. There is no right or wrong. But I'm not going to criticise anyone whom pays their way and feels losing and having no shots at goal isn't good enough. I can see that this might not sit right with some, and there might be a more positive way to express, but hey, I'm no judge. The thrust of what they're saying is because they care for their club and have paid more than others whom didn't travel, so kinda think fair play... Also, with the car comment, I truly feel there are some players that care more for that than their own performance, and think the implication I'm trying to put out there is some players care more than others, to pay to watch is far more far reaching and a privilege to those whom are paid to perform.... For the record, I've never booed our players or manager. I just quietly leave and probably moan on here too much....hey that's my way, others do as they please, funny thing is for all the moaning and abuse, most turn up again in the future! Why?! You say "no right or wrong" regarding abuse of players but i think its wrong full stop.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 17:32:26 GMT
I would like to confirm that Rex does indeed drink too much before football. He also regularly chats bollocks.
Agreed re the abuse. It's not like David Hillier is in the team. This lot try their best..It's just their best ain't very good.
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Post by mangogas15 on Aug 18, 2019 17:45:42 GMT
Oh well, Stefan Payne's back Tuesday... I wonder how much abuse behind safety barriers will be exerted on Tuesday? It's gone on for years. Doesn't make it right. But it will likely stop one day. Just not yet.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 18, 2019 18:14:02 GMT
I don't think there is a perfect answer. There is no right or wrong. But I'm not going to criticise anyone whom pays their way and feels losing and having no shots at goal isn't good enough. I can see that this might not sit right with some, and there might be a more positive way to express, but hey, I'm no judge. The thrust of what they're saying is because they care for their club and have paid more than others whom didn't travel, so kinda think fair play... Also, with the car comment, I truly feel there are some players that care more for that than their own performance, and think the implication I'm trying to put out there is some players care more than others, to pay to watch is far more far reaching and a privilege to those whom are paid to perform.... For the record, I've never booed our players or manager. I just quietly leave and probably moan on here too much....hey that's my way, others do as they please, funny thing is for all the moaning and abuse, most turn up again in the future! Why?! You say "no right or wrong" regarding abuse of players but i think its wrong full stop. Well I think abuse of anyone is wrong too. But where do you draw the line? In a perfect world, there would be no abuse. To anyone, anytime. Strange thing is: Bob Taylor is a homosexual and everyone (ok, some) laughs......you can't be hypocritical. Abuse is abuse, home and away, to our players management and/or others. Don't hear anything about abuse to other opposing players here, full stop. I'm not trawling through anyones posts, but it isn't an issue with opposing players/management (ex sh!t heads a glaring example) so don't virtue signal against our own when they're probably justified in what they say. (Especially v Cov away)... Just not how they express it.
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Post by laughinggas on Aug 18, 2019 18:20:22 GMT
Young men driving smart cars, what a shocker. Can see that in all walks of life. Probably get a good lease deal.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 18, 2019 18:43:54 GMT
Young men driving smart cars, what a shocker. Can see that in all walks of life. Probably get a good lease deal. When you're helping to pay for it, and you feel you get not alot back.......or even nothing back.......and possibly less than nothing as going backwards........when it comes out your pocket, how's it feel? Especially when those nice cars are driven off with ***possible*** smiles and high fives eh.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 18:48:34 GMT
There's an apologist for every single situation.
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Post by laughinggas on Aug 18, 2019 18:50:15 GMT
Remind me, how much do the owners earn ar 6%. That's the real concern on the financial side of my spend on Rovers.
I would also like to know why GC got such a long deal and not just the end of last season. He is an inexperienced manager who is a defensive coach, not qualifications I would approve of. Cheap option?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 21:46:59 GMT
Remind me, how much do the owners earn ar 6%. That's the real concern on the financial side of my spend on Rovers. I would also like to know why GC got such a long deal and not just the end of last season. He is an inexperienced manager who is a defensive coach, not qualifications I would approve of. Cheap option? The devil is in the detail regarding any contract. I questioned a chairman for giving a rookie manger a three year contract. I was told that it was to safeguard the club and the manager concerned could be dismissed giving one months notice any time if they lost three matches on the trot or any time the club wasn't in the top 6.
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Post by laughinggas on Aug 18, 2019 21:59:16 GMT
Think we are that clever?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 22:21:14 GMT
Think we are that clever? Nope.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 22:31:57 GMT
Think we are that clever? Nope. That's a tribunal case just waiting to happen. For that to be an enforceable clause they would have to demonstrate that they had provided sufficient resources and support to make achieving a top 6 place realistic. Sounds like more beer talk to me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 22:34:41 GMT
Nope. That's a tribunal case just waiting to happen. For that to be an enforceable clause they would have to demonstrate that they had provided sufficient resources and support to make achieving a top 6 place realistic. Sounds like more beer talk to me. Nope, all true and the manager is no longer at the club. We have also given out two year deals with a 3 month termination notice so it's not unique.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 22:44:01 GMT
That's a tribunal case just waiting to happen. For that to be an enforceable clause they would have to demonstrate that they had provided sufficient resources and support to make achieving a top 6 place realistic. Sounds like more beer talk to me. Nope, all true and the manager is no longer at the club. We have also given out two year deals with a 3 month termination notice so it's not unique. If that manager was dismissed solely for not being within that League position then I would like to know the terms of the settlement, unless of course he was given everything that was agreed at the outset.
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