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Post by stevek192 on Apr 22, 2019 21:38:19 GMT
Lets not beat about the bush. Todays football against a team who were mediocre at best can only be described as crap and that is being kind. It was clear to see why Rochdale have conceded so many goals especially in the first half when they tried hard to give us some gifts but we couldn't even take them when put on the plate. How Sercombe missed that chance in the first half I shall never know as the goalkeeper made no real effort whatsoever to close the angle. If the last two games had been Jon Clarke-Harris's first two games we would be thinking we had signed another Stefan Payne. I came away from the game feeling that we are destined for all the results to go against us and be relegated on the final day- it was that bad.
GC told us the football would not be pretty- how right he was but there can be no excuse whatsoever for letting a terrible team like Rochdale have the freedom of the park in their half. I am worried that even if we do manage to stay up what will we be watching next season because I can tell you that at the present time I shall be pleased when the next two games are out of the way and pray that we have enough points to stay up. It has been a difficult season especially at the Mem where the number of good games can be counted on one hand.
I could go on and on and be Mr Angry over a complete lack of any football ability today but will give marks and a very limited comment because the team don't deserve time wasted on giving a full report.
Bonham 6 Kicking terrible but general game ok.Had little to do.
Clarke J.5 Doesn't look a footballer and gave the wide player far too much room. Slow and predictable
Lockyer. 5 Back to awful standard of passing but OK most of the time.
Craig 6 Did most things ok and a good performer until he is in space with the ball at his feet and then it all goes wrong.
Holmes Dennis 6.5 MOM At least has some semblance of talent on the ball. Man of match is not something to be proud of today.
Upson 5.5 Tried hard , at least has the ability to pass a ball but the way GC sets us up means that we have very few options
Clarke O 5.5 Did OK but nowhere near Saturdays performance level
Sercombe 5 Did a lot of good things but missed a great chance where it was gifted to him and easier to score than drag it wide but the effort summed us up.
Rodman 5 OK in patches.Tried hard but was not given a great deal of service.
Nichols 2 Mr Offside. Doesn't look like scoring a goal in a million years. The thing is that even myself at 64 could score a tap in over a season just by being at some time in the right place. Couldn't strike a match.
Clarke Harris 3 Last two games has been terrible but thankfully his previous 11 games have been great
Jakubiak 5 At least he can run with the ball but must look at Nicholls and think he must be a bloody crap player to be fourth choice/
Reilly nole. Did ok whilst he was on
Crowd 6 Quite noisy but like most of this season at the Mem let down by both the players and the tactics or lack of them.
Ref 4 He thought he was the star of the show but can only suggest he looks up the rules of the game.
Rochdale 5 Thought their kit was woeful as was their team. The fact they are now above us just sums up how bad we were because their passing was far worse than ours and I thought they looked every bit a team who have struggled all season. Certainly did nothing to deserve the win.
So its on to another long trek next Saturday where we rarely get anything and surely our only hope is that we can return with a point based on recent games. UTG
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 21:59:07 GMT
It was bitterly disappointing today and the report reflects that. Rodman looked rusty,clarke-harris looked isolated and the team played this sterile backing off timid style of football that is painful to watch. not so long ago we were a terrific attacking league one team with some fine players now we are garbage.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 22:27:55 GMT
Just wait until an offer comes in for our only goal scorer, see how the reports look then.
One question. What didn't I understand was their keeper picking up a ball that was passed back to him? OK, he tried to control it with his feet first, but nobody else was involved so it was still the same passage of play. That's an indirect free kick to us, I thought?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 22:32:42 GMT
Just wait until an offer comes in for our only goal scorer, see how the reports look then. One question. What didn't I understand with their keeper picking up a ball that was passed back to him? OK, he tried to control it with his feet first, but nobody else was involved so it was still the same passage of play. That's an indirect free kick to us, I thought? I think the ref lost concentration and made a very basic error.
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Apr 22, 2019 22:43:45 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 22:43:45 GMT
Just wait until an offer comes in for our only goal scorer, see how the reports look then. One question. What didn't I understand was their keeper picking up a ball that was passed back to him? OK, he tried to control it with his feet first, but nobody else was involved so it was still the same passage of play. That's an indirect free kick to us, I thought? I think the ref lost concentration and made a very basic error. Maybe you can help me here because it isn't a common thing for play to be stopped for, should the linesman give some kind of indication in the same way as he would for offside, a foul, corner etc?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 23:15:27 GMT
I think the ref lost concentration and made a very basic error. Maybe you can help me here because it isn't a common thing for play to be stopped for, should the linesman give some kind of indication in the same way as he would for offside, a foul, corner etc? Maybe the linesman made a mistake as well? It clearly should have an indirect free kick very close to their goal line.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 23:22:26 GMT
Maybe you can help me here because it isn't a common thing for play to be stopped for, should the linesman give some kind of indication in the same way as he would for offside, a foul, corner etc? Maybe the linesman made a mistake as well? It clearly should have an indirect free kick very close to their goal line. Personally I think it was generally down to the officials being incompetent throughout, however that doesn’t take away from our own incompetence.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 23:39:40 GMT
Maybe the linesman made a mistake as well? It clearly should have an indirect free kick very close to their goal line. Personally I think it was generally down to the officials being incompetent throughout, however that doesn’t take away from our own incompetence. I can understand how the officials got it wrong but you would hope for better. We played like we have all season at home,very poor.
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Post by Rex on Apr 23, 2019 6:29:51 GMT
I think the ref lost concentration and made a very basic error. Maybe you can help me here because it isn't a common thing for play to be stopped for, should the linesman give some kind of indication in the same way as he would for offside, a foul, corner etc? I think as Vertigo said, the ref lost concentration and while I hate players surrounding refs surely ours should have been pointing it out- although I'm guessing they lost concentration as well!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 8:58:45 GMT
Going back to the o p the real irritation for me is the ongoing issue of playing for a point at home and the negative mentality behind it. Coughlan is really starting to worry me, where has his positive mindset from his first few games in charge gone, or was that just a free hit and now we see the real and timid person he may actually be when in charge.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 23, 2019 9:49:26 GMT
It was probably the most toothless display I’ve seen all season and their header was, once again a totally unchallenged player and it seemed like slow motion even though you just knew where it was heading. Regardless of team, we should be trying to be the attacking force but it gets bogged down in midfield and we lost the ball through missed passes a number of times. We provided no attacking threat and it’s crap that we will be relying upon others to be worse Personally and this goes against the grain but we really are not a 3rd tier side, not as we are now. IF we stay up then I don’t feel confident as one of the reasons DC left was knowing the budget would be cut for next season. Left feeling awful and me and the friend I go with, hardly exchanged a word on the way back and, if you knew him, that is a shock. I thought the highlight of the game was the round of applause for Lindsay Parsons. Hey stevek192 at least the north stand did manage a couple of songs this time. Sorry to say this but we don’t deserve to stay up, based on the home games I’ve seen. Dreadful does not cover it
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Post by vaughan on Apr 23, 2019 10:12:12 GMT
GC was brought in as a defensive coach and he has succeeded in toughening us up.
However, the football is dire. We sit far too deep and there is no zip to our play.
Frankly, we are awful to watch.
I would bring in a new Manager who can coach a team. We may survive by the skin of our teeth, but only tedium awaits if GC stays in charge. Ogogo sums it up for me.
The other worrying thing is the mentality at home BS he came out with yesterday. It is our total lack of attacking threat that is the problem.
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Post by Peter Parker on Apr 23, 2019 11:02:25 GMT
GC was brought in as a defensive coach and he has succeeded in toughening us up. However, the football is dire. We sit far too deep and there is no zip to our play. Frankly, we are awful to watch. I would bring in a new Manager who can coach a team. We may survive by the skin of our teeth, but only tedium awaits if GC stays in charge. Ogogo sums it up for me. The other worrying thing is the mentality at home BS he came out with yesterday. It is our total lack of attacking threat that is the problem. GC is hamstrung by a lack of attacking options though. Jury is out for me until we see who and what he recruits.
He said it wasn't going to be pretty and we have tried to grind out results and fortunately found a striker who went on a hot streak
yesterday was s**te though. Was almost as if the players thought they were safe in a meaningless end of season game
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Post by laughinggas on Apr 23, 2019 11:10:54 GMT
Lack of attacking intention seems to be more the case. Taken some great shots to score recently. We do not have any sustained pressure where you think, score in a minute!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 14:12:15 GMT
GC was brought in as a defensive coach and he has succeeded in toughening us up. However, the football is dire. We sit far too deep and there is no zip to our play. Frankly, we are awful to watch. I would bring in a new Manager who can coach a team. We may survive by the skin of our teeth, but only tedium awaits if GC stays in charge. Ogogo sums it up for me. The other worrying thing is the mentality at home BS he came out with yesterday. It is our total lack of attacking threat that is the problem. GC is hamstrung by a lack of attacking options though. Jury is out for me until we see who and what he recruits.
He said it wasn't going to be pretty and we have tried to grind out results and fortunately found a striker who went on a hot streak
yesterday was s***e though. Was almost as if the players thought they were safe in a meaningless end of season game
For me the jury is out on him as well. He took ages to sort out simple things like No 7 doubling up with their right winger then cutting in to space where we had no central midfield. All through the first half they got away with it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 14:16:16 GMT
There’s no structure at all to our play, I quite liked the 5 at the back with Partington sitting in front them, I’d have Sercs and Sinclair with Jackubiak and JCH in a 5-1-2-1-1.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 14:41:18 GMT
Same old story, the gaffer knows his job is safe if he keeps the gas up. Hence the negative football. He is just trying to crawl over the line rather than take risks with some attacking maybe so called risky football. He is more interested in keeping his job as opposed to entertaining the supporters.
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Post by Peter Parker on Apr 23, 2019 15:05:21 GMT
Same old story, the gaffer knows his job is safe if he keeps the gas up. Hence the negative football. He is just trying to crawl over the line rather than take risks with some attacking maybe so called risky football. He is more interested in keeping his job as opposed to entertaining the supporters. His remit (for now) is to keep us up. by extension that means ptotecting his job surely. He said it wasn't going to be pretty in the quest to stay up
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 15:18:49 GMT
Same old story, the gaffer knows his job is safe if he keeps the gas up. Hence the negative football. He is just trying to crawl over the line rather than take risks with some attacking maybe so called risky football. He is more interested in keeping his job as opposed to entertaining the supporters. His remit (for now) is to keep us up. by extension that means ptotecting his job surely. He said it wasn't going to be pretty in the quest to stay up But did he say it would be frightening? Every time 7 cut inside and had a ball laid square to him we instantly had the cover in front of our left back and our left midfield chasing back behind the ball, our left back tucked in too narrow, big guy trying to pull 2 defenders with him to cover a cross to the back post, our shape was all over the place, all because we rushed out wide rather than showing them down the line and blocking 7's run off. It's this type of park defending that puts you 0-3 down in half an hour at Doncaster. I honestly think he struggles to deal with tactics and react to what's happening during a game. This would have happened once, maybe twice if Marcus was stood next to him, then it would have been dealt with.
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Post by bloogas on Apr 23, 2019 15:40:10 GMT
I honestly think he struggles to deal with tactics and react to what's happening during a game. This would have happened once, maybe twice if Marcus was stood next to him, then it would have been dealt with. [/quote]
Yes, I'll buy that. Stewart the centre forward knows more about defending than Coughlan the lifelong centre back. Coughlan who has played for 20 plus years at several big clubs, probably under some pretty astute managers. Figures when I think about it.
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