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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 12:24:25 GMT
So, last nights attendance of 6,699 (with 1,883 travelling supporters), some will say this is another example of people not protesting and getting behind the club and competition but how does it compare to previous Area Finals/Semi Finals in regards to the average attendance of that season?
Bristol Rovers vs Notts County - 28/03/1990 Attendance - 6,480 Average - 6,209 4% Increase
Bristol Rovers vs Shrewsbury Town - 12/03/1996 Attendance - 7,050 Average - 5,285 33% Increase
Bristol Rovers vs Southend United - 12/02/2005 Attendance - 7,110 Average - 7,077 -
Bristol Rovers vs Bristol City - 27/02/2007 Attendance - 11,530 Average - 5,476 111% Increase
Bristol Rovers vs Sunderland - 05/03/2019 Attendance - 6,699 Average - 8,933 25% Decrease
Before last night on average an Area Final/Semi Final would see an attendance 37% better than the seasonal average, for the pedants removing the Derby of 2007 attendances were still 12% up. It's safe to say the punters have poo-pooed the idea that this was ever a "Big Game" and Rovers also did so by closing vast areas of the ground and reducing admission prices.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 13:58:28 GMT
This is how to do it, find facts to support your point of view.
Good post.
You can almost hear the cogs turning in the heads of the people who organise this competition, just wait for them to try to find a way of instructing clubs to make attendance part of season ticket purchase and then they'll claim that every season ticket holder attended.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Mar 6, 2019 18:00:52 GMT
Nice work, Chewie.
The figures speak for themselves, and well done to everyone whom didn't attend.
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Post by darkbluegas on Mar 6, 2019 18:28:16 GMT
I think you'd need to do the same with FA Cup and League Cup games to make a true comparison. In the last 12 years the popularity of Cup football has changed considerably. I think if you look at our recent cup attendances it looks like we're boycotting them all. A quick watch of championship and Premier league teams in the FA Cup definitely show their fans are certainly boycotting.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 18:32:48 GMT
I think you'd need to do the same with FA Cup and League Cup games to make a true comparison. In the last 12 years the popularity of Cup football has changed considerably. I think if you look at our recent cup attendances it looks like we're boycotting them all. A quick watch of championship and Premier league teams in the FA Cup definitely show their fans are certainly boycotting. I’ll do first round FA Cup ties later, this was a direct comparison of the same stage to previous seasons. |
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Post by Rex on Mar 6, 2019 19:11:06 GMT
On a separate note, at the time I was hugely disappointed with the attendance at the Notts County game in 1990 when it was our first opportunity to get to Wembley. I was drinking with Vaughan Jones after the game and he also was very disappointed with it, as apparently were most of the team. The game that gets you to Wembley is invariably much more fun than the actual 'day out'. Notts County away is right up there with one of my most memorable away days (on that god awful cage like terrace they had at the time), Crewe away the year we lost to Huddersfield was another amazing night. Even Shrewsbury away (spookily enough I am writing this in a hotel about half a mile from where Gay Meadow was) was a great night out- albeit because we thought we had done enough to secure a Wembley trip.
As for the City game and Rickie Lambert's goal, I still get all teary eyed thinking about it!
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Post by pirate49 on Mar 6, 2019 20:38:45 GMT
Interesting stats, but just a few caveats: - the City game was bound to have a high attendance - last night's game was live on Sky. Were the others live on TV? - (it was raining  ) |
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Post by The Concept on Mar 6, 2019 21:20:14 GMT
You sure our league home average so far this season is 8,933?
Seems a bit high.
I don't have all the attendances to hand, from what I can see I calculate it was 8,072 after Burton on new years day.
One other point, to show the fall in numbers, is that Sunderland brought far more than any of the other away teams would have. I would have thought no more than 500 (apart from the City game), so going by home support the percentage decrease would be more.
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Post by kentgas on Mar 6, 2019 23:15:47 GMT
On a separate note, at the time I was hugely disappointed with the attendance at the Notts County game in 1990 when it was our first opportunity to get to Wembley. I was drinking with Vaughan Jones after the game and he also was very disappointed with it, as apparently were most of the team. The game that gets you to Wembley is invariably much more fun than the actual 'day out'. Notts County away is right up there with one of my most memorable away days (on that god awful cage like terrace they had at the time), Crewe away the year we lost to Huddersfield was another amazing night. Even Shrewsbury away (spookily enough I am writing this in a hotel about half a mile from where Gay Meadow was) was a great night out- albeit because we thought we had done enough to secure a Wembley trip. As for the City game and Rickie Lambert's goal, I still get all teary eyed thinking about it! Agree the home attendance for Notts County was disappointing but didn’t We take about 4000 to the away game? One of the great nights as I recall! |
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Post by Bamber Gashead on Mar 6, 2019 23:29:22 GMT
You sure our league home average so far this season is 8,933? Seems a bit high. I don't have all the attendances to hand, from what I can see I calculate it was 8,072 after Burton on new years day. One other point, to show the fall in numbers, is that Sunderland brought far more than any of the other away teams would have. I would have thought no more than 500 (apart from the City game), so going by home support the percentage decrease would be more. I make our league home average to currently be 8,155. |
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Post by GasMacc1 on Mar 7, 2019 8:31:13 GMT
You sure our league home average so far this season is 8,933? Seems a bit high. I don't have all the attendances to hand, from what I can see I calculate it was 8,072 after Burton on new years day. One other point, to show the fall in numbers, is that Sunderland brought far more than any of the other away teams would have. I would have thought no more than 500 (apart from the City game), so going by home support the percentage decrease would be more. The principle Chewbacca is highlighting still holds: for whatever reason, the attendance in this season's Associate Members Cup semi-final (as I prefer to call it) is much reduced, when compared to contemporary average attendances in the League. I think the figure of 8,933 is the average for the 2017-18 season (the 2018-19 one not having completed yet!). |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 9:01:11 GMT
Yep, my bad. I took the top figure which is last seasons...
Bristol Rovers vs Sunderland - 05/03/2019
Attendance - 6,699
Average - 8,155
22% Decrease
Unfortunately I can't get details on away attendances for the previous games, but I'd suggest apart from the City game (which is the anomaly in this whole piece) Sunderland had by far the biggest away following.
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Post by laughinggas on Mar 7, 2019 9:59:12 GMT
But the statistics for clubs is, is their revenue down.
Unless the club's go to EFL and get rid of the U21 teams no 'protest' by fans not attending will not be noticed.
This season the EFL will just look at the final and say great attendance therefore great tournament.
So unless two U21 get to final or the club's boycott there is little to suggest change will happen unless it's for the worse.
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Post by irishrover on Mar 7, 2019 13:58:51 GMT
But the statistics for clubs is, is their revenue down. Unless the club's go to EFL and get rid of the U21 teams no 'protest' by fans not attending will not be noticed. This season the EFL will just look at the final and say great attendance therefore great tournament. So unless two U21 get to final or the club's boycott there is little to suggest change will happen unless it's for the worse. It's a terrible idea based on the preposterous, and entirely disingenous, premise that somehow exposure to playing 3/4 games against lower league opposition is going to produce more England players out of Premier League academies. When we all know that Premier league academies do not give a crap about producing England players anyway because they get no benefit from doing so and the real reason they likely want this is to create a long-term case for allowing their B teams to play in the football league - which itself is really about allowing them to continue to player hoard young 'assets' on a grand scale and for as long as possible.
I love the idea that someone high up in the game really went - 'I know the real reason England haven't won the World Cup since 1966. It's because 21 year old 5th choice Premier League left backs destined for careers of lower league mediocrity have not been given enough opportunities to play meaningless round robin games on a Tuesday night in front of 600 people at the Bescot Stadium.....'
It's the absurdity and arcane nature of the justification that seems so out of step with the realities of football that annoys me more than anything else. It's the Zombie King Canute of football competitions and I'm sure it will continue to plod on irrelevantly while at the same time managing to be a permanently annoying mild existential threat in the background.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 15:30:38 GMT
Notts county away was one of the great nights. Not too sure about 4,000 though. Still in a pub in Nottingham around midnight with the party still going. Remember 2 - 3 people being dropped off on the way back to where they worked. They were bakers and start very early. Don't think their bread was anything to shout about that day !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 19:51:43 GMT
That's good, Kegan. Keep up the practice, because it's paying real dividends, but why not experiment using adverbs to add variety to your statements? Don't forget to use sufficient pronouns to make your point clearly. A good effort. C+ |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 20:28:42 GMT
That's good, Kegan. Keep up the practice, because it's paying real dividends, but why not experiment using adverbs to add variety to your statements? Don't forget to use sufficient pronouns to make your point clearly. A good effort. C+ To be fair to Kegan, that last post was about average for this forum. We have one regular here who seems to think it's still the early 20th century and hyphenates the word 'today'. How is supposed to learn with that as an example? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 10:44:05 GMT
Following on from the numbers above there were Rovers 4,816 supporters on Tuesday night made up 72% of the 6,699 attendance. How does this compare to home matches throughout the season?
I've managed to get information every home league game this season bar Coventry, in the same used:
Average attendance : 8,132 Average home support attendance : 7,602 Average visiting team attendance : 530 Average percentage of home support : 93%
So, not only was Rovers attendance down 22% on the seasonal average but the share of support was also down 21%.
For the League game against Sunderland, Rovers attendance was 10,009 with an away following of 1,408. Sunderland made up 14% of the attendance compared to the 28% in the Checkatrade with a 34% increase in the away following to 1,883. 3,785 fewer Gasheads went to the Checkatrade game than the League game, a drop of 44% on Rovers side of the attendance.
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