vaughan
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Post by vaughan on Nov 29, 2018 12:37:41 GMT
As indicated in Heavy Heart thread, I have written yesterday to Steve Hamer about the Tifosy model - www.tifosy.com. Steve has informed me that he has met with Tifosy representatives, but he has stated that Dwayne Sports are not interested in the crowd funding model. Personally, I think that this is short-sighted as I don't see any other sources of investment for January funds or larger Capex developments - training ground, ground improvements etc. It was a POSITIVE suggestion as I believe our fan-base to be our greatest asset. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 12:42:31 GMT
They don't want fan involvement, that's been pretty obvious from the start.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 12:48:59 GMT
Again, you aren't offering anything other than hot air.
Put the scheme together, then they are under enormous pressure.
Wael has spoken about meeting potential investors / partners, he even said where he met them. They are up for outside investment, if it's real.
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vaughan
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Post by vaughan on Nov 29, 2018 13:09:30 GMT
Tifosy work with clubs - to engage the fan-base.
DS own the club.
This is a Financial Control Authority endorsed platform.
They provide platform and marketing.
It's called being professional.
IT HAS TO BE LED AND PROMOTED VIA THE CLUB.
What's your plan, BG..to stand outside Box 1 with buckets?
We are talking about serious investment that involves an entire fan-base. How are you going to achieve that without using a successful model?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 13:14:34 GMT
What's your plan, BG..to stand outside Box 1 with buckets? Ah, the Supporters Club Share Scheme. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 13:15:55 GMT
Tifosy work with clubs - to engage the fan-base. DS own the club. This is a Financial Control Authority endorsed platform. They provide platform and marketing. It's called being professional. IT HAS TO BE LED AND PROMOTED VIA THE CLUB. What's your plan, BG..to stand outside Box 1 with buckets? We are talking about serious investment that involves an entire fan-base. How are you going to achieve that without using a successful model? The difference between us Vaughan is that I'm not pretending to have a plan that I'm willing to implement. Go on, prove me wrong. |
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Post by harrybuckle on Nov 29, 2018 13:21:39 GMT
Don't want to be involved with Tipsy it is an alcohol company sorry.
The supporters club share scheme is the only deal on the table. Accept it it took years to organise
otherwise you could be looking to sleep walk into a no deal Brexit ?
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Post by Peter Parker on Nov 29, 2018 14:01:55 GMT
Don't want to be involved with Tipsy it is an alcohol company sorry. The supporters club share scheme is the only deal on the table. Accept it it took years to organise otherwise you could be looking to sleep walk into a no deal Brexit ? To be serious for a moment, the share scheme is at least a mechanism that can be reworked.
The original concept may be redundant now, but at least the outline of something is already there if Vaughn wanted to do something
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Post by crater on Nov 29, 2018 14:10:00 GMT
Never understood the share scheme...I spend money and hold no shares in return?
Why fund something that is owned by another organisation with which I had little connection with.
Now if I would have personally owned the shares I would have sunk a grand or 2 in no question
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Post by vaughan on Nov 29, 2018 14:25:56 GMT
Look at the examples on the web-site.
Funding needs to be specifically targeted: a training ground, a stand, even a statue for Portsmouth.
However, it is a partnership between club and fan-base. It is not some sort of bargaining chip.
Tifosy offers equity and debt-bond options to answer Crater's specific points.
I would have thought Wael would be interested given its international status and Vialli's involvement.😂
The Share Scheme is dead: too much bile under the bridge. At least, it had life.
Dwayne Sports are not interested in crowd funding. Steve Hamer was very positive about its potential to work, having met with Tifosy representatives on several occasions. But he is not DS.
There you go. Evolution.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 14:29:29 GMT
Look at the examples on the web-site. Funding needs to be specifically targeted: a training ground, a stand, even a statue for Portsmouth. However, it is a partnership between club and fan-base. It is not some sort of bargaining chip. Tifosy offers equity and debt-bond options to answer Crater's specific points. I would have thought Wael would be interested given its international status and Vialli's involvement.😂 The Share Scheme is dead: too much bile under the bridge. At least, it had life. Dwayne Sports are not interested in crowd funding. Steve Hamer was very positive about its potential to work, having met with Tifosy representatives on several occasions. But he is not DS. There you go. Evolution. BTTT. Set it up, get a couple of million quid pledged, they'll change their tune. |
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Post by trymer on Nov 29, 2018 17:24:29 GMT
I don't think that Dwayne want fans involved and they don't want anything that might tie them to the club,once a buyer is found (if ever) they want to be able to get well out of it.
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Post by swissgas on Nov 29, 2018 18:23:33 GMT
To me any fund raising initiative by fans should be targeted at a future without Dwane Sports or Wael involvement.
Dwane Sports may be interested in a short term rental agreement for the Mem, say 3 1/2 years at £300 000 per annum, which would keep them in a neutral position with their loan serviced while they negotiated the sale of the land to developers at a fixed exit date.
It would give Rovers new owners, perhaps a mix of fans and private investors, time to negotiate with local authorities to find a new sustainable home. And without the burden of interest accruals and an office in London etc, together with the upsurge in revenue such a venture would bring, the club could possibly be run at close to break even.
Just a thought.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 18:53:34 GMT
There you go Vaughan, nice and simple, defined objective, easy to sell.
Go get 'em tiger.
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