The Trollope comparison (some further study) 10 years ago

Thanks PP, that stat on PT is interesting. Without checking, and going on what I remember and what I watched im sure that PT also qualified for the quarter finals of the JPT (so that would improve his stats I presume) and it was the loss against Exeter that was his final game. Straight up I ll come out and say I’ve always thought his sacking was wrong and I would have liked him to stay. Some of his recruitment was poor but I say that with hindsight which is a wonderful thing. When signed I thought they were solid signings with good backgrounds in leagues 1/2.
But talk about the same with DC is just stupid. The guy will sort it out and if we’ve learnt anything from the last 6/7 years it is that if we panic and change we do get relegated. Keep our nerve and we will be ok. And blimey what is all this about, we are sat nicely in mid table and I for one feel that’s ok. I suspect the posters advocating this are frustrated at what’s happening higher up, what’s happened over the ground and the rumour mongers stirring it. What’s kicked this off is the three cup defeats in a week. Now if we had a thread about D.C. and his record in cups then then it would be awful. Most would agree that D.C. doesn’t do cup competitions.
UTG!

Maybe what you need to decide is whether 0 points for losing 1-0 any different to 0 points for losing 4-0? It's the heavy defeats that are getting people worried I think.

When we got relegated out of the League we had the same number of wins, draws and losses as Wycombe, but our goal difference was 3 worse, we were -11, they were -8. I'm not suggesting that we are in danger of getting relegated, but it does show that goal difference can be important.

its the mindsets in the 2 blokes thats the main difference for me

trollope imo shouldve been sacked the moment he came out with ;im happy for the other team to have the ball;

dc is a [ too much at times] attack minded bloke and not scared to go for it when behind, i know which i prefer

Exactly. The game is supposed to be an entertainment. In my youth drab nil nil draws were regarded as an achievement. The game has gradually moved on,and with US influence, a realisation that paying customers ought to get something for their money. Obviously there will be those to whom the result is all,and a nil nil could be entertaining, but I applaud DC's philosophy.

I agree with him. 30 years ago we were worse off, but there's no point carrying on like its 1987 forever, which is pretty much what we've done since getting back to Bristol.

True, but ... 30 years ago we were also 30 years behind.

With the views of DC hitting the news on the BBC website it looks as if the pressure is being placed on our owners. I hope it’s not a call from DC to say come and get me to other clubs but that is one way to look at it. I hope it’s more about DC telling it as it is and expecting some response from our owners. DC will be aware of the pressure he’s under and may have seen some of this stuff on the forums and it may be just mis-directing stuff away from the team and him. All in all it looks as if Wael will be needing to respond with some tangible and real news about ground/ training facility or anything else that is about building the infrastructure. Pressure all round, interesting times.
UTG!

If Paul Trollope had taken us as far as he could, and Darrell Clarke is seemingly starting to struggle to take us further than Trollope got us, and no manager has got us any further in the best part of 25 years, what would that suggest about the potential of the club in our current facilities and budget?

I think DC is a better manager than PT.
PT had Lennie,they were a partnership.Nick Higgs got it wrong getting rid of Lennie.

DC is now facing the same challenge PT and Lennie then PT alone faced.Getting Rovers to challenge for a play off place in the third tier.
PT/Lennie tried to sign players that the Board could'nt afford (eg,that striker just signed for Burnley from Leeds,sure we made a bid)and eventually we were relegated.
DC is correct in stating we are often over achievers and he has already said we failed to sign one or two at the start of this season.We've been a wee bit unlucky,injuries and the U21 internationals have come when we've had away games.Rome was'nt built in a day and i think DC and MS can get things together for us to challenge.We've not effectively replaced the striker who stabbed us in the back last season.Afraid it's true.
Look,you don't win em all and getting Rovers to the second tier is one hell of a challenge and i'm fascinated to see what the rest of this season brings.I feel confident with our Manager and his staff.Off the field we are still apparently struggling.Training ground eg?