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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 23:49:10 GMT
so on Gaschat it has been suggested that the source might be ex-directors (how would they know?) or a disgruntled employee I'm at a loss as to why either would want to suggest that the planning permission on UWE has been extended. To pass the time of day? if it were the new investors, would they gain much by fuelling these rumours. I'm struggling to think so. To 'look a bit saviour-y'? That would be a big stretch, and scarcely a good platform to start from someone with a general axe to grind, who just wants to make mischief? That doesn't seem to be what Pess is alluding to I dunno Well it hasn’t come from me 😂😂 However, I do believe what BS5 and Gasincider have said.
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Post by PessimistGas on Nov 8, 2017 0:26:26 GMT
so on Gaschat it has been suggested that the source might be ex-directors (how would they know?) or a disgruntled employee I'm at a loss as to why either would want to suggest that the planning permission on UWE has been extended. To pass the time of day? if it were the new investors, would they gain much by fuelling these rumours. I'm struggling to think so. To 'look a bit saviour-y'? That would be a big stretch, and scarcely a good platform to start from someone with a general axe to grind, who just wants to make mischief? That doesn't seem to be what Pess is alluding to I dunno Ed Ware or someone else involved? I don't have any inside info on this but I get the impression that Gasincider is proving useful to someone. He's getting his info from somewhere.
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 8, 2017 0:32:47 GMT
so on Gaschat it has been suggested that the source might be ex-directors (how would they know?) or a disgruntled employee I'm at a loss as to why either would want to suggest that the planning permission on UWE has been extended. To pass the time of day? if it were the new investors, would they gain much by fuelling these rumours. I'm struggling to think so. To 'look a bit saviour-y'? That would be a big stretch, and scarcely a good platform to start from someone with a general axe to grind, who just wants to make mischief? That doesn't seem to be what Pess is alluding to I dunno Ed Ware or someone else involved? I don't have any inside info on this but I get the impression that Gasincider is proving useful to someone. He's getting his info from somewhere. True, but what would Ed gain from this being shared?
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Post by PessimistGas on Nov 8, 2017 0:43:38 GMT
Ed Ware or someone else involved? I don't have any inside info on this but I get the impression that Gasincider is proving useful to someone. He's getting his info from somewhere. True, but what would Ed gain from this being shared? Not sure, but im also not sure what he would gain by blabbing it all over the ground either.
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Post by bs5 on Nov 8, 2017 7:06:42 GMT
Just to say that there is no hidden agenda whatsoever with myself and I also know for a fact that Gasincider hasn’t and generally he has grave concerns regarding the state of the club .The abuse that this bloke takes from the other forum from fellow Gasheads is damnright disgraceful , Gasincider shows more dignity and decorum than myself but for me being called a “bellend” or “thick” is one thing but to be labelled a sh1thead is taking the piss but I suppose to their credit 2 out of 3 ain’t bad 😂
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 8, 2017 7:20:55 GMT
Bs5
What gasincider does in drip feed potentially massive stories before backing away from them when people demand proof. He stated that he understands players and staff were not paid and then when pushed on it to go public or clarify he then stated he was just guessing. He does this a lot and it causes rumours and instability. He did the same about chinese consortiums and corridors of power etc.
Its out of order imo. If he knows the clubs in the s**t then he should do something more then stir the s**t
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 8:28:28 GMT
The thread title is "Let's put some facts forward" However there is not one peice of collaborating evidence put forward. Just interpretations and assumptions. Something is not right I agree. I suspect however that it's more to do with fact that owning and running a football club is not financially viable in the current model. But that's been true for a couple of decades. Without shareholder guarantees and loans the club is effectively unviable as a limited company. Regardless of whose name is on the shareholder register this remains true. We may disagree with how previous and current shareholder directors operate but they have all faced the same issue. Now however the current lot have no ties nor history with the club. It was always going to happen. Colony contractors not being paid, or being paid in dribs and drabs isn't a piece of corroborating evidence? UWE debacle? Admittedly we don't have all the pieces of the puzzle and certain things don't appear to make any sense but there is enough here to give great cause for concern. Unfortunately the club stopped communicating in any meaningful sense a long time ago. Have the said contractors come out in public and quoted their terms of business with the club and how those terms, very precisely, have been breached?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 8:31:02 GMT
Just to say that there is no hidden agenda whatsoever with myself and I also know for a fact that Gasincider hasn’t and generally he has grave concerns regarding the state of the club .The abuse that this bloke takes from the other forum from fellow Gasheads is damnright disgraceful , Gasincider shows more dignity and decorum than myself but for me being called a “bellend” or “thick” is one thing but to be labelled a sh1thead is taking the piss but I suppose to their credit 2 out of 3 ain’t bad 😂 Your agenda is not the issue. Who cares. What is the issue is the lack of documented evidence for your and others, claims.
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Post by fatherjackhackett on Nov 8, 2017 8:33:35 GMT
I’m just completely bloody sick to death of so called ‘fans’ claiming to be in the know and speaking in sodding riddles all the time. And if Gas Incider, aka Tote End Brian, is somehow the saviour of the club then we really are up sh1t creek without a paddle. Similarly if think that it’s safe to say now that it was Ed Ware whose loose tongue lead to the whole omnishambles with the old Mem development and trips to Cheltenham.
It’s not that there is less information coming from the boardroom, there was never that much in the first place, it’s just that there no longer any leaks. This means that certain people who desire to be big fishes in small ponds now make things up to satisfy their pathetic egos.
Can everyone please either come out and be completely open and upfront on the situation at BRFC or day nothing at all. And if you did nothing at all between 1997 and 2016 when the club was seriously in trouble then as far as I am concerned you have invalidated any right to be heard now.
This last month has just seen far too many people posting unsubstantiated crap to massage their own ego. The only people who can change anything are the Al Qadi family, everything else is irrelevant.
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Post by faggotygas on Nov 8, 2017 8:59:22 GMT
If only we had some kind of independant fan's voice, perhaps a campaign group, to put these questions to the board.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 9:06:42 GMT
If only we had some kind of independant fan's voice, perhaps a campaign group, to put these questions to the board. What like supporters directors? What a brilliant idea. 😎
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 9:34:09 GMT
If only we had some kind of independant fan's voice, perhaps a campaign group, to put these questions to the board. What like supporters directors? What a brilliant idea. 😎 But this is where we are all actually part of the problem, we've allowed 2 people, neither of who, in my opinion, are fit to hold the position, to be our representatives for a combined total of something like 15 years.
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Post by bs5 on Nov 8, 2017 9:47:46 GMT
Bs5 What gasincider does in drip feed potentially massive stories before backing away from them when people demand proof. He stated that he understands players and staff were not paid and then when pushed on it to go public or clarify he then stated he was just guessing. He does this a lot and it causes rumours and instability. He did the same about chinese consortiums and corridors of power etc. Its out of order imo. If he knows the clubs in the s*** then he should do something more then stir the s*** The thing is Dinsdale I read that yesterday about players not being paid but it was a flippant reply by Gasincider to comments Marcus Stewart made about things that were going on behind the scenes , most of the replies were from people who chose not to read his comment properly and realise it was a flippant question rather than a statement of fact and it seems you all had a nibble .
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Post by Peter Parker on Nov 8, 2017 10:07:02 GMT
Bs5 What gasincider does in drip feed potentially massive stories before backing away from them when people demand proof. He stated that he understands players and staff were not paid and then when pushed on it to go public or clarify he then stated he was just guessing. He does this a lot and it causes rumours and instability. He did the same about chinese consortiums and corridors of power etc. Its out of order imo. If he knows the clubs in the s*** then he should do something more then stir the s*** The thing is Dinsdale I read that yesterday about players not being paid but it was a flippant reply by Gasincider to comments Marcus Stewart made about things that were going on behind the scenes , most of the replies were from people who chose not to read his comment properly and realise it was a flippant question rather than a statement of fact and it seems you all had a nibble . it wasn't though
Gasincider said
"I Wonder if the players have been paid?"
Someone replies
"With a little outside help they were apparently as were the staff."
Gsincider replies
"So I understand"
So either he knows something or he is epic s*** stirring. And he wonders why no one takes him fing seriously.
If it was a flippant question and didn't know anything, he should keep his fing trap shut
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 8, 2017 10:18:24 GMT
The thing is Dinsdale I read that yesterday about players not being paid but it was a flippant reply by Gasincider to comments Marcus Stewart made about things that were going on behind the scenes , most of the replies were from people who chose not to read his comment properly and realise it was a flippant question rather than a statement of fact and it seems you all had a nibble . it wasn't though
Gasincider said
"I Wonder if the players have been paid"
Someone replies
"With a little outside help they were apparently as were the staff."
Gsincider replies
"So I understand" agree that's unhelpful, and at worst potentially divisive
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Post by PessimistGas on Nov 8, 2017 11:33:33 GMT
What like supporters directors? What a brilliant idea. 😎 But this is where we are all actually part of the problem, we've allowed 2 people, neither of who, in my opinion, are fit to hold the position, to be our representatives for a combined total of something like 15 years. One of whom has only been willing or able to speak up after leaving the board.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 11:51:55 GMT
But this is where we are all actually part of the problem, we've allowed 2 people, neither of who, in my opinion, are fit to hold the position, to be our representatives for a combined total of something like 15 years. One of whom has only been willing or able to speak up after leaving the board. who ? i havent heard a peep out of either of the shysters
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Post by vaughan on Nov 8, 2017 12:16:29 GMT
The whole thing is degenerating into a farce.
There is clearly a concerted campaign from disgruntled individuals to spread rumours that undermine the good name of the club and current Board.
People in charge know the score and keep a dignified silence. A case of giving people enough rope.
Love A Rose-tinter
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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 8, 2017 12:49:00 GMT
The whole thing is degenerating into a farce. There is clearly a concerted campaign from disgruntled individuals to spread rumours that undermine the good name of the club and current Board. People in charge know the score and keep a dignified silence. A case of giving people enough rope. Love A Rose-tinter 'tis plausible, I think hard to decide
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 13:26:33 GMT
With some of these myth peddlers, the phrase 'if he had anything sensible to say, he'd have said it by now' springs to mind. Everything's always third or fourth hand and 'apparently' or 'I read on Facebook, and it might be rubbish, but I believe it'. Then we get the likes of 'maybe HMRC hasn't been paid' thrown in, and on it goes.
Like's been said, if I'd been owed 40 or 50 grand for 8 or 9 months, I'd progress it - in 'going legal' there would be a court submission to reference and prove it. I don't love the club (or anyone or anything) that much or in that way to let them shaft me like that. I might also kick up a fuss on a forum, first hand. Maybe that's me, but apparently there are now multiple instances of this - and they all just grumble in private about it, slightly hurt by the club they all adore. Including 'hostesses' now. Keep upping the game in the hope of hitting the spot. Oh, plus A&S Plod, of course, who wouldn't announce it, so that one's perfect.
If anything substantive emerges, I might give it some thought. Even then, though, to what end? What's the point, apart from doom-mongering? All this speculation to a conclusion of woe is just a misery-spreading waste of time.
That's not rose-tinted, it's just rational.
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