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Post by CostaBlancaGas on Sept 11, 2017 12:19:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 12:35:10 GMT
He's adept at not saying very much but doing so in lots of words.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 11, 2017 12:47:22 GMT
He's adept at not saying very much but doing so in lots of words. Sounds like our Prime minister
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Post by thecuregalore94 on Sept 11, 2017 12:47:57 GMT
Good to hear this, big step forward. Now we need to leave it to the board, stop speculating and focus on the performance on the pitch. The future is in good hands and WAQ knows what he's doing!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 12:52:35 GMT
Good to hear this, big step forward. Now we need to leave it to the board, stop speculating and focus on the performance on the pitch. The future is in good hands and WAQ knows what he's doing! Nah. I'll keep discussing and speculating and trying to work out for myself what is going on, thanks. Blind faith in a man with no track record isn't for me. If I'm wrong to be sceptical, I'll still be delighted to watch the redevelopment as it proceeds.
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 11, 2017 13:06:07 GMT
Good to hear this, big step forward. Now we need to leave it to the board, stop speculating and focus on the performance on the pitch. The future is in good hands and WAQ knows what he's doing! What difference would be not speculating make? Why would my 'focusing on the performance on the pitch' make any difference? I'm not on the pitch.
Not saying it's not, but why do you think the future is in good hands? What makes you think that WAQ knows what he is doing?
And finally, with all respect, who are you to tell me what I should be doing with my time?
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Post by Henbury Gas on Sept 11, 2017 13:16:27 GMT
Good to hear this, big step forward. Now we need to leave it to the board, stop speculating and focus on the performance on the pitch. The future is in good hands and WAQ knows what he's doing! What difference would be not speculating make? Why would my 'focusing on the performance on the pitch' make any difference? I'm not on the pitch.
Not saying it's not, but why do you think the future is in good hands? What makes you think that WAQ knows what he is doing?
And finally, with all respect, who are you to tell me what I should be doing with my time?
... Why do you think he is not doing a good job ?.... Not having a go just interested
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Post by trunky on Sept 11, 2017 13:18:54 GMT
Reading that I doubt very much whether anyone over the age of 40 will be alive when this comes to fruition, even now there doesent seem to be any sense of urgency to actually get things moving its all about discussions , consultations, preliminary talks and the such like. If this was plan B they don't seem to have got very far with it.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 11, 2017 13:23:53 GMT
What difference would be not speculating make? Why would my 'focusing on the performance on the pitch' make any difference? I'm not on the pitch.
Not saying it's not, but why do you think the future is in good hands? What makes you think that WAQ knows what he is doing?
And finally, with all respect, who are you to tell me what I should be doing with my time?
... Why do you think he is not doing a good job ?.... Not having a go just interested That's the point. None of us know. We are in the same place, regards real communication, that we were when under our previous chairman/owner. We get some information but very little that tells us anything. I don't understand the world of finance and so borrowing against our only asset worries me. Only those who truly understand finance will know the reasons, good or bad, on using our only asset to finance any improvements and buy the land for the academy. I think it's way too early to judge if the Al Qadi family are looking after us. I will give it more time before I pass any judgment. It's not like my opinion would matter in any case
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Post by thecuregalore94 on Sept 11, 2017 13:28:34 GMT
Good to hear this, big step forward. Now we need to leave it to the board, stop speculating and focus on the performance on the pitch. The future is in good hands and WAQ knows what he's doing! What difference would be not speculating make? Why would my 'focusing on the performance on the pitch' make any difference? I'm not on the pitch.
Not saying it's not, but why do you think the future is in good hands? What makes you think that WAQ knows what he is doing?
And finally, with all respect, who are you to tell me what I should be doing with my time?
"...can't understand why there are people at Rovers actively searching for things to put a negative spin on. Getting very sick of this toxic pessimism - perhaps this is just a minority of miserable b******s that all clubs have. Some people, it seems, will NEVER have a good word to say about anything in our club. They will leap to the worst possible conclusion from the tiniest detail, declare it irrefutable fact and proof that BRFC is doomed. Stirring the pot from afar, based on hearsay and cherry-picked quotes, is much easier than doing actual research or having a shred of optimism and faith in the club. Even if UWE went off flawlessly, was the swishest stadium in the country and we were playing in the Prem in 5 years time, guaranteed these people would be going "Hmph. The atmosphere's not the same." I F |_| C K I N G hate unnecessary negativity and seeing any one of us scaremongering like this. We're playing good football on the pitch and for the first time in years have some actual depth options. If we could make that our focus instead of trying to bring everything into a lull of doom and gloom, it would make this life sentence as a Gashead that much more enjoyable" - I posted that on the 31st August, statement still stands. With all respect, mate, I think if you have something negative to say, you shouldn't spoil it for the rest of us by stamping on every smidgen of healthy hope that we might have. Agreed?
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 11, 2017 13:35:57 GMT
What difference would be not speculating make? Why would my 'focusing on the performance on the pitch' make any difference? I'm not on the pitch.
Not saying it's not, but why do you think the future is in good hands? What makes you think that WAQ knows what he is doing?
And finally, with all respect, who are you to tell me what I should be doing with my time?
... Why do you think he is not doing a good job ?.... Not having a go just interested Where did I say that?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 13:41:15 GMT
What difference would be not speculating make? Why would my 'focusing on the performance on the pitch' make any difference? I'm not on the pitch.
Not saying it's not, but why do you think the future is in good hands? What makes you think that WAQ knows what he is doing?
And finally, with all respect, who are you to tell me what I should be doing with my time?
"...can't understand why there are people at Rovers actively searching for things to put a negative spin on. Getting very sick of this toxic pessimism - perhaps this is just a minority of miserable b******s that all clubs have. Some people, it seems, will NEVER have a good word to say about anything in our club. They will leap to the worst possible conclusion from the tiniest detail, declare it irrefutable fact and proof that BRFC is doomed. Stirring the pot from afar, based on hearsay and cherry-picked quotes, is much easier than doing actual research or having a shred of optimism and faith in the club. Even if UWE went off flawlessly, was the swishest stadium in the country and we were playing in the Prem in 5 years time, guaranteed these people would be going "Hmph. The atmosphere's not the same." I F |_| C K I N G hate unnecessary negativity and seeing any one of us scaremongering like this. We're playing good football on the pitch and for the first time in years have some actual depth options. If we could make that our focus instead of trying to bring everything into a lull of doom and gloom, it would make this life sentence as a Gashead that much more enjoyable" - I posted that on the 31st August, statement still stands. With all respect, mate, I think if you have something negative to say, you shouldn't spoil it for the rest of us by stamping on every smidgen of healthy hope that we might have. Agreed? You've every right to your opinion, but so is everyone else. That's how life works.
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 11, 2017 13:41:59 GMT
What difference would be not speculating make? Why would my 'focusing on the performance on the pitch' make any difference? I'm not on the pitch.
Not saying it's not, but why do you think the future is in good hands? What makes you think that WAQ knows what he is doing?
And finally, with all respect, who are you to tell me what I should be doing with my time?
"...can't understand why there are people at Rovers actively searching for things to put a negative spin on. Getting very sick of this toxic pessimism - perhaps this is just a minority of miserable b******s that all clubs have. Some people, it seems, will NEVER have a good word to say about anything in our club. They will leap to the worst possible conclusion from the tiniest detail, declare it irrefutable fact and proof that BRFC is doomed. Stirring the pot from afar, based on hearsay and cherry-picked quotes, is much easier than doing actual research or having a shred of optimism and faith in the club. Even if UWE went off flawlessly, was the swishest stadium in the country and we were playing in the Prem in 5 years time, guaranteed these people would be going "Hmph. The atmosphere's not the same." I F |_| C K I N G hate unnecessary negativity and seeing any one of us scaremongering like this. We're playing good football on the pitch and for the first time in years have some actual depth options. If we could make that our focus instead of trying to bring everything into a lull of doom and gloom, it would make this life sentence as a Gashead that much more enjoyable" - I posted that on the 31st August, statement still stands. With all respect, mate, I think if you have something negative to say, you shouldn't spoil it for the rest of us by stamping on every smidgen of healthy hope that we might have. Agreed? I'm not pessimistic, I'm not optimistic, I'm agnostic. I require evidence to believe something is true, however much I would like it to be true.
Where is the pessimism in any of what I wrote? It's neutral. The absence of optimism is not pessimism.
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 11, 2017 13:48:20 GMT
What difference would be not speculating make? Why would my 'focusing on the performance on the pitch' make any difference? I'm not on the pitch.
Not saying it's not, but why do you think the future is in good hands? What makes you think that WAQ knows what he is doing?
And finally, with all respect, who are you to tell me what I should be doing with my time?
"...can't understand why there are people at Rovers actively searching for things to put a negative spin on. Getting very sick of this toxic pessimism - perhaps this is just a minority of miserable b******s that all clubs have. Some people, it seems, will NEVER have a good word to say about anything in our club. They will leap to the worst possible conclusion from the tiniest detail, declare it irrefutable fact and proof that BRFC is doomed. Stirring the pot from afar, based on hearsay and cherry-picked quotes, is much easier than doing actual research or having a shred of optimism and faith in the club. Even if UWE went off flawlessly, was the swishest stadium in the country and we were playing in the Prem in 5 years time, guaranteed these people would be going "Hmph. The atmosphere's not the same." I F |_| C K I N G hate unnecessary negativity and seeing any one of us scaremongering like this. We're playing good football on the pitch and for the first time in years have some actual depth options. If we could make that our focus instead of trying to bring everything into a lull of doom and gloom, it would make this life sentence as a Gashead that much more enjoyable" - I posted that on the 31st August, statement still stands. With all respect, mate, I think if you have something negative to say, you shouldn't spoil it for the rest of us by stamping on every smidgen of healthy hope that we might have. Agreed?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 13:49:05 GMT
Good grief, what a miserable thread.
Give the owners a chance. It's only a couple of weeks since the UWE deal fell through.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 11, 2017 13:58:40 GMT
What difference would be not speculating make? Why would my 'focusing on the performance on the pitch' make any difference? I'm not on the pitch.
Not saying it's not, but why do you think the future is in good hands? What makes you think that WAQ knows what he is doing?
And finally, with all respect, who are you to tell me what I should be doing with my time?
"...can't understand why there are people at Rovers actively searching for things to put a negative spin on. Getting very sick of this toxic pessimism - perhaps this is just a minority of miserable b******s that all clubs have. Some people, it seems, will NEVER have a good word to say about anything in our club. They will leap to the worst possible conclusion from the tiniest detail, declare it irrefutable fact and proof that BRFC is doomed. Stirring the pot from afar, based on hearsay and cherry-picked quotes, is much easier than doing actual research or having a shred of optimism and faith in the club. Even if UWE went off flawlessly, was the swishest stadium in the country and we were playing in the Prem in 5 years time, guaranteed these people would be going "Hmph. The atmosphere's not the same." I F |_| C K I N G hate unnecessary negativity and seeing any one of us scaremongering like this. We're playing good football on the pitch and for the first time in years have some actual depth options. If we could make that our focus instead of trying to bring everything into a lull of doom and gloom, it would make this life sentence as a Gashead that much more enjoyable" - I posted that on the 31st August, statement still stands. With all respect, mate, I think if you have something negative to say, you shouldn't spoil it for the rest of us by stamping on every smidgen of healthy hope that we might have. Agreed? When I found out your age I was shocked as your posts bely the number. I think that if you were in your 50's onwards that you too would have some healthy cynicism. We have seen so many dreams just break down and so we find it difficult or near impossible to believe that any promise will be true and, for some of us, time is a big factor. It makes it very hard to be positive when we effectively get locked out of any reasoning behind decisions and when we were led to believe the stadium was basically a done deal. It's the closest we have got, certainly in my time anyway. It's the lies that hurt too, being told we had a plan B when we quite obviously had none is naughty too. I think we all want our club to do well but certain questions really do need answering as the speculation is damaging in my opinion. I'd love to be around to see a 50 yr old you, write the same post given the same circumstances. I'm sure you would have changed your perspective. It's very difficult to maintain a positive outlook when you have witnessed so many failures.
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 11, 2017 13:59:22 GMT
Good grief, what a miserable thread. Give the owners a chance. It's only a couple of weeks since the UWE deal fell through. Well personally, at no point have I said that we shouldn't give them a chance.
However I see little conclusive evidence that 'The future is in good hands and WAQ knows what he's doing!'. I should also say that I see little conclusive evidence that the future is NOT in good hands, or that WAQ doesn't know what he's doing!
I also see no reason why I should stop discussing the future of the club I support, as has been demanded of me.
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Post by matealotblue on Sept 11, 2017 14:03:41 GMT
Well he's got it slightly wrong on one point for sure. The Brentford reduction was at the behest of their Chairman, not the planners. His logic was that as they were heading for the PL (make of that what you will!) the gate receipts counted for less than the TV money in that League. Thus it was his llogic that the savings made from building the smaller stadium would go into team bulding to make the promised land of the PL. I noted this in the thread about the new Commercial Dirctor some days ago, it having been reported in the press.
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 11, 2017 14:06:27 GMT
Well he's got it slightly wrong on one point for sure. The Brentford reduction was at the behest of their Chairman, not the planners. His logic was that as they were heading for the PL (make of that what you will!) the gate receipts counted for less than the TV money in that League. Thus it was his llogic that the savings made from building the smaller stadium would go into team bulding to make the promised land of the PL. I noted this in the thread about the new Commercial Dirctor some days ago, it having been reported in the press. Well for a business based on a semi-random ball game, with promotion and relegation, that's some risky logic.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 11, 2017 14:42:26 GMT
If this is the new "new ground" thread then god help us. Nothing wrong with blind faith btw, I've been a Rovers fan for over 50 years and sometimes it's been the only consistent thing about being a fan! 😀 UTG!
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