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Post by stevek192 on Aug 12, 2017 19:14:17 GMT
Opponents
Peterborough Home Lost 4-1
Team Performance Mark out of 10
Smith - Dodgy in air,distribution poor but couple good saves 5
Leadbitter - Defensively poor throughout,caught out of position and awful crossing 3
Lockyer - Poor start to season continues.Should be dropped 3.5
Sweeney - Gave the ball away causing sloppy second goal. Looks out of sorts. 4
Brown - Defensively poor and laborious. One great cross for goai 5
Bodin - Too many tricks that didn't come off,couple of good moments ,hit the bar 5.5
Lines - Does DC get him to play deep? An OK game but no real threat 5
Sercombe - The best of a poor midfield,was most likely player to score with long shots. 6.5 MOM
Sinclair - Backwards and sideways is not good enough.Lacks any class and a waste on left 4
Harrison - Service was poor but didn't help himself and missed a sitter to make an undeserved 1-1 3.5
Nicholls - very poor first half. Second half a bit better without really threatening 4.5
Subs
Gaffney - Brightened up the second half and scored with a far post header from accurate Brown cross 6
O Clarke - LOooked totally off the pace and didn't improve the team but all shape had been lost 3.5
Moore - Didn't really get into the game.Needed him to actually beat a man 4
Referee
Almost as poor as our performance. Missed far too much. 4
Team performance summed up
Second best in all areas of the pitch. We looked at least three good signings short so get busy DC your summer transfer dealings are not good enough.
Defence summed up
Pathetic from start to finish.Needed to learn to mark and pass a ball
Midfields summed up
Far too deeply set up with little width and ran into trouble far too often. Defensively went missing despite being deep.
Attack summed Up
- Punchless without a leader. best period when Gaffney came on
Man of Match
Liam Sercombe
Crowd
Let down in first League game again by mediocre performance following a summer where I would ask if DC has actually strengthened the team? I am not sure that we have replaced Montano, Easter or taylor but am prepared to give the new players longer.
Final Comment
New signings are needed and quickly or we will find ourselves firmly in the bottom third of the table. At least three quality players short and we need DC to be a bit brave and rest a few of the undroppables. With the stadium news this has been a disastrous start to the Campaign. This was the poorest I have seen for a long time and although if Harrison had put an easy chance away it would have been 1-1 and may have changed the game it would not have been deserved..
Peterborough - On the day far too good for us and gave us lessons in both personnel and tactics. Well worth the 4-1 win although in truth we gave them their goals with rank terrible defending.
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Post by bloogas on Aug 12, 2017 19:45:35 GMT
I thought, as did friends, that Leadbitter was injured. Got a nasty knock on Tuesday & was subbed. Surprised he turned out today but not surprised at his performance. Assume J. Clarke & Partington not fit enough & Bola a left side player. Possibly DL only option. Certainly felt his inadequacy led to the whole defence disintegrating. Shouldn't happen but it did.
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Post by laughinggas on Aug 12, 2017 19:48:47 GMT
Lines was dropped back because, Marriot I think, was playing between the lines and causing a lot of problems.
So yes he was asked.
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Post by bloogas on Aug 12, 2017 20:29:14 GMT
Lines was dropped back because, Marriot I think, was playing between the lines and causing a lot of problems. So yes he was asked. How many games do you get to? He plays there every game! However, he did once say that DC likes his midfielders to play deep & I've never heard DC contradict that. |
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Post by laughinggas on Aug 12, 2017 22:10:29 GMT
Er Sincs switched to middle and Lines was instructed to drop , was a switch made during g the game today
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Post by gasheadpirate on Aug 13, 2017 8:56:17 GMT
Glad I had a family do and could not go. 😮
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Post by littlestokegas on Aug 13, 2017 9:14:05 GMT
Sinclair should not have started in place of Clarke, I don't think DC changed th formation early 1st half to combat Marriot but to get Sincs off of the wing where he was causing havoc to our players running around like the durable bunny and getting in the way. Two notable occasions he 'stole' headers from our guys who were in better positions. League 1 is quite technical these days and I am afraid Since is not up to it.
Agree with OP we were well beaten by a much better team yesterday, a team that had the desire to win. We did not, I think events off the pitch materialised yesterday in a lack lustre performance
Gaffney should have started too, when he came on we started winning good ball in the air.
Leadbetter I thought played well and put in several strong challenges 2 nd half right in front of where I was standing that made me wince.
And yes P'Boro fans were pissing themselves at Nicholl's home league debut.
We need to get some more fresh blood in before the August window shuts hard on our season, else we are in a relegation fight.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 9:21:55 GMT
They weren't that much better than us but they took their chances and we did not.
A 3-4 defeat wouldn't have looked as stark, and it would have been a fairer reflection on the game, but it would have got us the same amount of points.
I thought Sweeney looked rusty, Sinclair looked out of place, Leadbitter didn't look fit, Nicholls looked like Bodin and I'm not sure we need two, and Ellis completely let himself down with an abysmal finish to a virtual tap-in, but played OK until then.
All in all we're only six points off top and there's 44 games to play.
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Post by Igitur on Aug 13, 2017 9:29:03 GMT
Oh for the days when tables were not published until after 5 games, it's ridiculous. Sometimes you see tables with clubs occupying mid-table places by not having played at all. Sure we can do the maths, but is it better to say we are 4 points off a play-off spot or bottom? Glass half full, glass half empty....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 10:57:36 GMT
Sinclair should not have started in place of Clarke, I don't think DC changed th formation early 1st half to combat Marriot but to get Sincs off of the wing where he was causing havoc to our players running around like the durable bunny and getting in the way. Two notable occasions he 'stole' headers from our guys who were in better positions. League 1 is quite technical these days and I am afraid Since is not up to it. Agree with OP we were well beaten by a much better team yesterday, a team that had the desire to win. We did not, I think events off the pitch materialised yesterday in a lack lustre performance Gaffney should have started too, when he came on we started winning good ball in the air. Leadbetter I thought played well and put in several strong challenges 2 nd half right in front of where I was standing that made me wince. And yes P'Boro fans were pissing themselves at Nicholl's home league debut. We need to get some more fresh blood in before the August window shuts hard on our season, else we are in a relegation fight. So dc moved sinclair because he was getting in the way on the left and stopping others heading the ball? There was me thinking the reshuffle was a reaction to the problems caused by their front 3! Jesus! |
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Post by gasheadpirate on Aug 13, 2017 11:13:12 GMT
Just seen the highlights. Terrible defending for all of the goals. Leadbetter doing a desperate challenge he didn't need to do for the first and Sweeney not dealing with the cross; Sweeney's terrible ball forward leaving us totally exposed for the counter attack for the second; not sure what was going on for the third; and as for the last goal, a careless pass allows the counter attack and absolutely nobody anywhere near the scorer for the fourth. Perhaps on that one I can give the benefit of the doubt as we may have been pressing for a second but thst is being generous.
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Post by littlestokegas on Aug 13, 2017 18:23:16 GMT
Sinclair should not have started in place of Clarke, I don't think DC changed th formation early 1st half to combat Marriot but to get Sincs off of the wing where he was causing havoc to our players running around like the durable bunny and getting in the way. Two notable occasions he 'stole' headers from our guys who were in better positions. League 1 is quite technical these days and I am afraid Since is not up to it. Agree with OP we were well beaten by a much better team yesterday, a team that had the desire to win. We did not, I think events off the pitch materialised yesterday in a lack lustre performance Gaffney should have started too, when he came on we started winning good ball in the air. Leadbetter I thought played well and put in several strong challenges 2 nd half right in front of where I was standing that made me wince. And yes P'Boro fans were pissing themselves at Nicholl's home league debut. We need to get some more fresh blood in before the August window shuts hard on our season, else we are in a relegation fight. So dc moved sinclair because he was getting in the way on the left and stopping others heading the ball? There was me thinking the reshuffle was a reaction to the problems caused by their front 3! Jesus! Afraid so, I was in the Dry build, were you in the Blackthorn? if so you may not have noticed. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 13, 2017 20:00:51 GMT
Opponents Peterborough Home Lost 4-1 Team Performance Mark out of 10 Smith - Dodgy in air,distribution poor but couple good saves 5 Leadbitter - Defensively poor throughout,caught out of position and awful crossing 3 Lockyer - Poor start to season continues.Should be dropped 3.5 Sweeney - Gave the ball away causing sloppy second goal. Looks out of sorts. 4 Brown - Defensively poor and laborious. One great cross for goai 5 Bodin - Too many tricks that didn't come off,couple of good moments ,hit the bar 5.5 Lines - Does DC get him to play deep? An OK game but no real threat 5 Sercombe - The best of a poor midfield,was most likely player to score with long shots. 6.5 MOM Sinclair - Backwards and sideways is not good enough.Lacks any class and a waste on left 4 Harrison - Service was poor but didn't help himself and missed a sitter to make an undeserved 1-1 3.5 Nicholls - very poor first half. Second half a bit better without really threatening 4.5 Subs Gaffney - Brightened up the second half and scored with a far post header from accurate Brown cross 6 O Clarke - LOooked totally off the pace and didn't improve the team but all shape had been lost 3.5 Moore - Didn't really get into the game.Needed him to actually beat a man 4 Referee Almost as poor as our performance. Missed far too much. 4 Team performance summed up Second best in all areas of the pitch. We looked at least three good signings short so get busy DC your summer transfer dealings are not good enough. Defence summed up Pathetic from start to finish.Needed to learn to mark and pass a ball Midfields summed up Far too deeply set up with little width and ran into trouble far too often. Defensively went missing despite being deep. Attack summed Up - Punchless without a leader. best period when Gaffney came on Man of Match Liam Sercombe Crowd Let down in first League game again by mediocre performance following a summer where I would ask if DC has actually strengthened the team? I am not sure that we have replaced Montano, Easter or taylor but am prepared to give the new players longer. Final Comment New signings are needed and quickly or we will find ourselves firmly in the bottom third of the table. At least three quality players short and we need DC to be a bit brave and rest a few of the undroppables. With the stadium news this has been a disastrous start to the Campaign. This was the poorest I have seen for a long time and although if Harrison had put an easy chance away it would have been 1-1 and may have changed the game it would not have been deserved.. Peterborough - On the day far too good for us and gave us lessons in both personnel and tactics. Well worth the 4-1 win although in truth we gave them their goals with rank terrible defending. Spot on Steve. I thought worse than our defeats to both Charlton and and Newport and we were were very predictable to the opposition. Worst game I've seen us play at home in the last 4 seasons |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Aug 13, 2017 20:03:50 GMT
Glad I had a family do and could not go. 😮 I think another 2 games anywhere near this will see 1500-2000 off of the attendance |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 22:11:09 GMT
So dc moved sinclair because he was getting in the way on the left and stopping others heading the ball? There was me thinking the reshuffle was a reaction to the problems caused by their front 3! Jesus! Afraid so, I was in the Dry build, were you in the Blackthorn? if so you may not have noticed. So you really think that dc moved sinclair because he was stopping others head the ball? |
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Post by littlestokegas on Aug 14, 2017 5:52:02 GMT
Afraid so, I was in the Dry build, were you in the Blackthorn? if so you may not have noticed. So you really think that dc moved sinclair because he was stopping others head the ball? not exactly, that was just two examples of the way he was playing, i.e. rushing around without much thought. A bit like park football. |
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Post by baxtinho on Aug 14, 2017 9:43:53 GMT
They weren't that much better than us but they took their chances and we did not. A 3-4 defeat wouldn't have looked as stark, and it would have been a fairer reflection on the game, but it would have got us the same amount of points. I thought Sweeney looked rusty, Sinclair looked out of place, Leadbitter didn't look fit, Nicholls looked like Bodin and I'm not sure we need two, and Ellis completely let himself down with an abysmal finish to a virtual tap-in, but played OK until then. All in all we're only six points off top and there's 44 games to play. Had Ellis scored that chance that bounced up 7/8 ish yards up, that was 1-1 and a different game. Plenty of individual errors that were sadly capitalised upon, Leadbitter was diving in on their #7 in the red boots too much, seemed odd as not many outrun him. Sweeney & Sercombe gave the ball away for goals 2 & 4, and the other was from a corner that wasn't defender very well. Crazy not to have a left winger at all basically, but it's not all the time every error is punished. It's still August, I'm not losing faith yet! |
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Post by eppinggas on Aug 14, 2017 9:53:56 GMT
Formation was wrong. Sincs on the left wing - never going to work. Everyone knew that. DC re-shuffled formation a few times and that just added to the confusion. Bodin, Harrison & Nicols trying to emulate the "Barcelona front 3". Laughable. Nicols may well prove to be as prolific as Luke James. Having played sh*t - we could still have got back into it if Harrison didn't miss that absolute sitter from 6 yards. Head in the hands stuff and even my patience with him is being stretched.
Maybe DC should 'experiment' with 4-4-fu*king-2 with 2 proper wide players. Letting Montano go may prove to be a bad mistake.
If that means no room for Sincs, then there is no room for Sincs.
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Post by basel on Aug 14, 2017 10:22:01 GMT
We were poor.
Lines,Leadbitter,Sweeney were poor,but others too.
We need some steal in midfield.Lines maybe needs to be dropped.
Not sure about Sinclair out wide either.
Bodin could also do more when the opposition have the ball.
Harrisson inconsistent,can't we do better?
I imagine DC and MS will be drilling them hard this week.
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Post by tanksfull on Aug 14, 2017 10:30:48 GMT
Sinclair should not have started in place of Clarke, I don't think DC changed th formation early 1st half to combat Marriot but to get Sincs off of the wing where he was causing havoc to our players running around like the durable bunny and getting in the way. Two notable occasions he 'stole' headers from our guys who were in better positions. League 1 is quite technical these days and I am afraid Since is not up to it. Agree with OP we were well beaten by a much better team yesterday, a team that had the desire to win. We did not, I think events off the pitch materialised yesterday in a lack lustre performance Gaffney should have started too, when he came on we started winning good ball in the air. Leadbetter I thought played well and put in several strong challenges 2 nd half right in front of where I was standing that made me wince. And yes P'Boro fans were pissing themselves at Nicholl's home league debut. We need to get some more fresh blood in before the August window shuts hard on our season, else we are in a relegation fight. The situation in which Sinclair is good is when the opposition look to pass the ball around in defence. He can put them under pressure and keep our forwards fresh. Otherwise... |
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