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Post by kegandeg on Jul 22, 2017 15:36:06 GMT
Looks like Sweeney would have come in handy today at the moment F.G.R 2 GAS 0 !
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Post by DudeLebowski on Jul 22, 2017 16:55:12 GMT
Looks like Sweeney would have come in handy today at the moment F.G.R 2 GAS 0 ! Quite the opposite, Burn was solid & played very well alongside Locks.
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Post by GasMacc1 on Jul 24, 2017 14:55:12 GMT
I’m glad Jonny Burn played well.
He’ll probably get some first team appearances in the early part of the season, at least, when the internationals come round.
If (as I hope) Tom Lockyer goes onto ever greater success with Wales, he’ll unfortunately have to miss the Rovers games away at Bradford and at Northampton.
Wales Internationals: World Cup Qualification
2 Sep Austria (H) 5 Sep Moldova (A) 6 Oct Georgia (A) 9 Oct Rep of Ireland (H).
If - and it’s a big if - we manage to attract the Sweeney back to Rovers, we might have to do without him as well for the same two Rovers games, as the ROI U-21’s are away in Azerbaijan and at home to Norway near those dates.
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Post by tanksfull on Jul 24, 2017 17:17:08 GMT
I can see this going right to the start of the season unfortunately (but that's not too far away now) as Stoke would surely he rather play at as high a level as possible. If no Championship club comes in then we will surely be the obvious choice. I doubt money is an issue.
Instinct not ITK.
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 24, 2017 20:33:22 GMT
I’m glad Jonny Burn played well. He’ll probably get some first team appearances in the early part of the season, at least, when the internationals come round. If (as I hope) Tom Lockyer goes onto ever greater success with Wales, he’ll unfortunately have to miss the Rovers games away at Bradford and at Northampton. Wales Internationals: World Cup Qualification
2 Sep Austria (H) 5 Sep Moldova (A) 6 Oct Georgia (A) 9 Oct Rep of Ireland (H).If - and it’s a big if - we manage to attract the Sweeney back to Rovers, we might have to do without him as well for the same two Rovers games, as the ROI U-21’s are away in Azerbaijan and at home to Norway near those dates. Yes I hope he is involved for Wales as well he deserves it. If he were and Sweeney, if he signed, were invoked as you say wouldn't we be able to postpone the match and rearrange? Or do you need to have 3 players? I thought it was two but I might be wrong on that. Also, do players who are on loan count? After all they could say it's our fault for signing him knowing that he might not be available. I guess at this point in time it's all ifs and buts. But I also agree about Burn. He deserves a chance and if he puts together a few good performances in the friendlies it would be good to see him in serious action. It could be that he is someone who is the answer. We will see I guess over the next few weeks.
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Post by Gashead on Jul 24, 2017 20:45:25 GMT
Its 3 players, so we'd have to sign an obscure international to get a postponement.
Makes you wonder why we released Gos, he was a money maker too!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2017 20:56:57 GMT
Its 3 players, so we'd have to sign an obscure international to get a postponement. Makes you wonder why we released Gos, he was a money maker too! Cause he wasn't very good? Doesn't matter if he pays for himself it still eats up part of your budget
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 25, 2017 8:33:54 GMT
Its 3 players, so we'd have to sign an obscure international to get a postponement. Makes you wonder why we released Gos, he was a money maker too! Thanks for that, I thought it was two. Makes it harder with having to have three.
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Post by tanksfull on Jul 25, 2017 12:53:12 GMT
I have never been able to understand the methodology and thinking of the FL on this. It’s totally unfair on L1 and L2 clubs who have one or two international players at any level. It’s not great for any of the others either.
Why not follow the Premier and Championship and schedule the season excluding these dates. Then if any two clubs wish to bring forward a game during that period let them do so by mutual agreement (making allowances for fans of course). It would allow the season to be slightly more front loaded, give clubs the option of playing if they want to and avoid any potential unfairness. I would appreciate any thoughts on the downside. I can see an issue for fans attending matches (either short notice or long term planning in respect of a game brought forward) but that is already there as clubs do not know if their player (or an opposition player) is going to be called up.
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 25, 2017 18:05:24 GMT
Yes, it sounds a good idea tanksfull. One of the down sides could be that you start to have some big gaps in the season when there's no football. We could go a month without a home match. Of course you could avoid that by playing through mutual agreement as you've said. But I guess clubs wouldn't want to do that if their best player/s weren't available. I have a season ticket with Bournemouth and I hate these breaks. You sometimes go a long time without a home game. Another downside might be losing momentum, esp if you are playing well and then have to take a two week break. It works the other way of course, if you're playing badly you might want a break! It gives a really stop /start feel to the season and the number of home games on a Saturday become fewer and fewer. Overall I think I'd be against having a break, just about. Mind you when there is an international break I can always get to a Rovers match, at the moment. UTG!
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 25, 2017 20:38:55 GMT
I have never been able to understand the methodology and thinking of the FL on this. It’s totally unfair on L1 and L2 clubs who have one or two international players at any level. It’s not great for any of the others either. Why not follow the Premier and Championship and schedule the season excluding these dates. Then if any two clubs wish to bring forward a game during that period let them do so by mutual agreement (making allowances for fans of course). It would allow the season to be slightly more front loaded, give clubs the option of playing if they want to and avoid any potential unfairness. I would appreciate any thoughts on the downside. I can see an issue for fans attending matches (either short notice or long term planning in respect of a game brought forward) but that is already there as clubs do not know if their player (or an opposition player) is going to be called up. You're talking far too much sense and that is just not on or tolerated in these times of gargantuan TV payments. I do sometimes wonder how much longer lower league clubs clubs can sustain themselves with the things being discussed and the swift way a large number of clubs are so quick to say yes to the paltry offers made, to buy their agreement. Sad times for real football indeed and maybe why I genuinely enjoyed our one season in the abyss. It's a bloody mess
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Post by bloogas on Jul 26, 2017 7:37:40 GMT
I do sometimes wonder how much longer lower league clubs clubs can sustainWe've gone out so I cannot pick you up. themselves with the things being discussed and the swift way a large number of clubs are so quick to say yes to the paltry offers made, to buy their agreement. Sad times for real football indeed and maybe why I genuinely enjoyed our one season in the abyss. It's a bloody mess[/quote]
Have you noticed Spurs' chairman Daniel Levy's comment that Premiership spending is unsustainable? Common sense might be imminent.....
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 27, 2017 21:47:55 GMT
Sadly, it would take more that the one premiership person to say this and then another thing for them to act upon it.
I can't imagine any other sphere of business where the banks would allow a company to go on if they just offered to service the debts they have as per Man Utd.
I would love to see football club owners unite and make a stand but it's not going to happen while the elite clubs get so much. I was watching when their was the mention of one player going for 75 million and thinking just what that could do for a club like ours. It's obscene and vulgar. Unfortunately greed was chosen over the goodmof the game and I don't see a way back from that. We had so many chances to get the game into good health but Sky put the kybosh on that and the clubs accepted it with willing and open hands. Look at Bolton, some 375 million in debt. How long can itmgo on ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 21:56:15 GMT
It will continue and every now and again a club will fall, such as Coventry, Sheff Weds, leeds, shef utd and MAN CITY etc but there is hope as long as Burton, Barnsley etc can surive in the Championship then so could we. The problem is chasing premiership from that point, do it on a budget or spend silly money chasing silly money?
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Post by bloogas on Jul 28, 2017 8:19:03 GMT
Sadly, it would take more that the one premiership person to say this and then another thing for them to act upon it. I can't imagine any other sphere of business where the banks would allow a company to go on if they just offered to service the debts they have as per Man Utd. I would love to see football club owners unite and make a stand but it's not going to happen while the elite clubs get so much. I was watching when their was the mention of one player going for 75 million and thinking just what that could do for a club like ours. It's obscene and vulgar. Unfortunately greed was chosen over the goodmof the game and I don't see a way back from that. We had so many chances to get the game into good health but Sky put the kybosh on that and the clubs accepted it with willing and open hands. Look at Bolton, some 375 million in debt. How long can itmgo on ? Ah,yes,SKY. & Rupert Murdoch. Don't get me going.
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Post by Gashead on Jul 29, 2017 11:25:51 GMT
It will continue and every now and again a club will fall, such as Coventry, Sheff Weds, leeds, shef utd and MAN CITY etc but there is hope as long as Burton, Barnsley etc can surive in the Championship then so could we. The problem is chasing premiership from that point, do it on a budget or spend silly money chasing silly money? The same Barnsley with a 20,000+ all seater, and really well run? Truth is the training ground and the stadium are stumbling blocks for sustaining Championship football, and Burton will probably prove that in the next couple of years. DC can get us there, but staying there requires more!
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jul 29, 2017 16:40:15 GMT
It will continue and every now and again a club will fall, such as Coventry, Sheff Weds, leeds, shef utd and MAN CITY etc but there is hope as long as Burton, Barnsley etc can surive in the Championship then so could we. The problem is chasing premiership from that point, do it on a budget or spend silly money chasing silly money? The same Barnsley with a 20,000+ all seater, and really well run? Truth is the training ground and the stadium are stumbling blocks for sustaining Championship football, and Burton will probably prove that in the next couple of years. DC can get us there, but staying there requires more! Yes it does and so many have been not just happy but are fully of accepting the soundbite of evolution not revolution when, in fact, it needs a bit of both. As much as it pains me to write this, many of the players DC worked with, to get us to where we are now we're still players bought in under NH. There is no doubt that Wael endeared himself to the fans and has been much more fans friendly but that wouldn't take much doing eh. I am beginning to get a little jittery about the 10 million against the mem yet still we are not seeing it spent of proven players. I can't help but wonder that DC was maybe sold a dummy in promises made. He is definitely not the type to be easily fooled and certainly gives the impression of a man who likes to do things his own way and this is why it puzzled me that he so openly said we would have 10-14 new players in and would be pushing for promotion. While that may see ST's sell more freely, we have yet to see the number of players in and yet again we are not buying proven players for a promotion push The manager may well be a minor miracle worker with lost or damaged players but surely no one can expect him to get another promotion when the quality of players coming in leave questions to be answered. We now have the owners being very quiet and have little to nothing to go on and the squad, as it is, is not big enough nor does it have the right balance, to start out a promotion campaign in my opinion. I keep saying it and will say it again, I hope to be probed wrong but I predict a raft of late loans as our 1st,2nd and 3rd choices don't come. Something just doesn't sit right for me and I hope it's the piles
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Post by laughinggas on Jul 29, 2017 16:58:15 GMT
Could not hear all of interview but he said some loans to come in, one I think is a no brainer!
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Post by tanksfull on Jul 30, 2017 9:15:05 GMT
Could not hear all of interview but he said some loans to come in, one I think is a no brainer! The longer it goes on the more likely it is that he will come.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Jul 30, 2017 10:15:53 GMT
The same Barnsley with a 20,000+ all seater, and really well run? Truth is the training ground and the stadium are stumbling blocks for sustaining Championship football, and Burton will probably prove that in the next couple of years. DC can get us there, but staying there requires more! Yes it does and so many have been not just happy but are fully of accepting the soundbite of evolution not revolution when, in fact, it needs a bit of both. As much as it pains me to write this, many of the players DC worked with, to get us to where we are now we're still players bought in under NH. There is no doubt that Wael endeared himself to the fans and has been much more fans friendly but that wouldn't take much doing eh. I am beginning to get a little jittery about the 10 million against the mem yet still we are not seeing it spent of proven players. I can't help but wonder that DC was maybe sold a dummy in promises made. He is definitely not the type to be easily fooled and certainly gives the impression of a man who likes to do things his own way and this is why it puzzled me that he so openly said we would have 10-14 new players in and would be pushing for promotion. While that may see ST's sell more freely, we have yet to see the number of players in and yet again we are not buying proven players for a promotion push The manager may well be a minor miracle worker with lost or damaged players but surely no one can expect him to get another promotion when the quality of players coming in leave questions to be answered. We now have the owners being very quiet and have little to nothing to go on and the squad, as it is, is not big enough nor does it have the right balance, to start out a promotion campaign in my opinion. I keep saying it and will say it again, I hope to be probed wrong but I predict a raft of late loans as our 1st,2nd and 3rd choices don't come. Something just doesn't sit right for me and I hope it's the piles Turn up & watch a DC team. You don't need a side full of proven/journeymen players to achieve success at this level. I think that's been more than obvious over the last couple of years, in the divisions we've been operating. The squad (with one or two additions) we currently have will finish in the top 6 come May. comfortably. Save this post.
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