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Post by matealotblue on May 3, 2017 10:42:45 GMT
I was there last night and all the same questions were asked and all the same answers were given. Both parties working hard to conclude a deal etc...... WAQ was there last night and was his usual good humored self but Steve Hamer did most of the talking. SH did say he spoke to Joe Lumley after Sundays game and the JL said he has enjoyed his time here and would like to return to Rovers next season if something can be worked out with QPR. One thing I found interesting was that we are still receiving payments for Scott Sinclair which in 2017 will total £50,000. How or who is making these payments I'm not sure, I'm assuming it's Chelsea. Training ground planning application going in, in the next 5-6 weeks and then it will take 12-16 weeks to get through the South Glos planning process. Mem pitch to get a new £80,000 drainage system installed over the close season. Not much else to report really. Thanks for this. Interesting about the drainage system. 80k is a fair chunk to invest. A number of people (including myself) have commented about how good the pitch is at the end of the season, particularly now the egg chasers have left. Not noticed any particular issue with water not draining from the pitch, which mostly used to show itself by the tunnel entrance area. So, putting that with the "positive" but unspoken news on UWE - is there a return to be had over 2 years (if we are to believe we will move to UWE) for such an investment. Don't get me wrong it's good news that there is this investment going on, but from my admittedly uninformed position, not sure why that particular issue needs fixing given my observations above. Which of course could be totally wrong......!
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Post by zulugas on May 3, 2017 11:16:30 GMT
I was there last night and all the same questions were asked and all the same answers were given. Both parties working hard to conclude a deal etc...... WAQ was there last night and was his usual good humored self but Steve Hamer did most of the talking. SH did say he spoke to Joe Lumley after Sundays game and the JL said he has enjoyed his time here and would like to return to Rovers next season if something can be worked out with QPR. One thing I found interesting was that we are still receiving payments for Scott Sinclair which in 2017 will total £50,000. How or who is making these payments I'm not sure, I'm assuming it's Chelsea. Training ground planning application going in, in the next 5-6 weeks and then it will take 12-16 weeks to get through the South Glos planning process. Mem pitch to get a new £80,000 drainage system installed over the close season. Not much else to report really. Thanks for this. Interesting about the drainage system. 80k is a fair chunk to invest. A number of people (including myself) have commented about how good the pitch is at the end of the season, particularly now the egg chasers have left. Not noticed any particular issue with water not draining from the pitch, which mostly used to show itself by the tunnel entrance area. So, putting that with the "positive" but unspoken news on UWE - is there a return to be had over 2 years (if we are to believe we will move to UWE) for such an investment. Don't get me wrong it's good news that there is this investment going on, but from my admittedly uninformed position, not sure why that particular issue needs fixing given my observations above. Which of course could be totally wrong......! SH said that the current drainage system at the Mem had collapsed in places and wasn't fit for purpose, also DC wanted a top quality playing surface, Seems fair enough to me, what DC wants DC gets (within reason).
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Post by matealotblue on May 3, 2017 12:06:12 GMT
Thanks for this. Interesting about the drainage system. 80k is a fair chunk to invest. A number of people (including myself) have commented about how good the pitch is at the end of the season, particularly now the egg chasers have left. Not noticed any particular issue with water not draining from the pitch, which mostly used to show itself by the tunnel entrance area. So, putting that with the "positive" but unspoken news on UWE - is there a return to be had over 2 years (if we are to believe we will move to UWE) for such an investment. Don't get me wrong it's good news that there is this investment going on, but from my admittedly uninformed position, not sure why that particular issue needs fixing given my observations above. Which of course could be totally wrong......! SH said that the current drainage system at the Mem had collapsed in places and wasn't fit for purpose, also DC wanted a top quality playing surface, Seems fair enough to me, what DC wants DC gets (within reason). Yep, fair enough given that information. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 13:08:23 GMT
Thanks for this. Interesting about the drainage system. 80k is a fair chunk to invest. A number of people (including myself) have commented about how good the pitch is at the end of the season, particularly now the egg chasers have left. Not noticed any particular issue with water not draining from the pitch, which mostly used to show itself by the tunnel entrance area. So, putting that with the "positive" but unspoken news on UWE - is there a return to be had over 2 years (if we are to believe we will move to UWE) for such an investment. Don't get me wrong it's good news that there is this investment going on, but from my admittedly uninformed position, not sure why that particular issue needs fixing given my observations above. Which of course could be totally wrong......! SH said that the current drainage system at the Mem had collapsed in places and wasn't fit for purpose, also DC wanted a top quality playing surface, Seems fair enough to me, what DC wants DC gets (within reason). Seems very odd to me. We've already got the best pitch we've had since we moved to the Mem, £80k on a pitch we're only supposedly going to be using for a couple of years strikes me as a colossal waste of money. Buy a striker instead please.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 17:49:28 GMT
SH said that the current drainage system at the Mem had collapsed in places and wasn't fit for purpose, also DC wanted a top quality playing surface, Seems fair enough to me, what DC wants DC gets (within reason). Seems very odd to me. We've already got the best pitch we've had since we moved to the Mem, £80k on a pitch we're only supposedly going to be using for a couple of years strikes me as a colossal waste of money. Buy a striker instead please. We unexpectedly sold one, so that gives us 80 grand to improve the pitch and £220k for other stuff (like a striker to play on it - or two or three, given what I'd expect to pay for up and coming talent and the Tillson record* still standing). Alternatively it's being funded by having an extra 200(ish) on the gate. It strikes me as not unreasonable maintenance while we're there, assuming that they're doing it because people who know more about it than I do say that it's needed, and not because they've got a thing about drains. On that basis (which seems sound), it's good news that they're cracking on and doing it rather than making do and hoping, as per the traditional approach. * Edit: Or is it the Channing record? I can't remember off-hand, someone can clarify, but it's quarter of a century ago either way.
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Post by droitwichgas on May 3, 2017 18:17:52 GMT
Let's be honest if the guttering on your house which was being demolished in a couple of years started leaking, would you do a temporary fix costing a £100 or spend £2,000 replacing the whole lot? I could understand it if we were spending on a desso pitch we could dig up and take it with us but to literally throw money down the drains seems odd. Plus we have the new gates and the Pirates portacabins being moved means it doesn't suggest that the UWE will be built anytime soon. I wonder if the club will also look at trying to squeeze more fans into the Mem?
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Post by a more piratey game on May 3, 2017 18:37:45 GMT
SH said that the current drainage system at the Mem had collapsed in places and wasn't fit for purpose, also DC wanted a top quality playing surface, Seems fair enough to me, what DC wants DC gets (within reason). Seems very odd to me. We've already got the best pitch we've had since we moved to the Mem, £80k on a pitch we're only supposedly going to be using for a couple of years strikes me as a colossal waste of money. Buy a striker instead please. sending a message to UWE?
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Post by Igitur on May 3, 2017 18:53:43 GMT
Let's be honest if the guttering on your house which was being demolished in a couple of years started leaking, would you do a temporary fix costing a £100 or spend £2,000 replacing the whole lot? I could understand it if we were spending on a desso pitch we could dig up and take it with us but to literally throw money down the drains seems odd. Plus we have the new gates and the Pirates portacabins being moved means it doesn't suggest that the UWE will be built anytime soon. I wonder if the club will also look at trying to squeeze more fans into the Mem? ...but if we spend the dosh and get the pitch DC wants for next season, which would have been at the Mem anyway, and we get up into the Champs, which is a target, then the expenditure would have been worth it. Let's face it none of know what's in the budget.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 19:11:13 GMT
Let's be honest if the guttering on your house which was being demolished in a couple of years started leaking, would you do a temporary fix costing a £100 or spend £2,000 replacing the whole lot? I could understand it if we were spending on a desso pitch we could dig up and take it with us but to literally throw money down the drains seems odd. Plus we have the new gates and the Pirates portacabins being moved means it doesn't suggest that the UWE will be built anytime soon. I wonder if the club will also look at trying to squeeze more fans into the Mem? But if the hot water packed up, would you do without? Say you ran a hotel and the heating (a fairly key requirement for the business) packed up - or maybe just wasn't very good and it was getting mentioned on TripAdvisor and harming the business, and given that it's not that big a sum of money (relatively speaking) and you're there for two years yet....? They say the drains have collapsed and need replacing. They're taking the advice of someone whose looked into it and, probably reluctantly, allocated funds to do it. Yet folk, having seen the grass from a distance, after the driest winter in 20 years, declare the substructure to be fine and any work unnecessary and a waste of money. I don't get it. It must be weird to be so certain. Maybe the 80 grand job is the interim fix.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 19:24:41 GMT
Seems very odd to me. We've already got the best pitch we've had since we moved to the Mem, £80k on a pitch we're only supposedly going to be using for a couple of years strikes me as a colossal waste of money. Buy a striker instead please. sending a message to UWE? A first class stamp would be cheaper.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 19:31:32 GMT
Let's be honest if the guttering on your house which was being demolished in a couple of years started leaking, would you do a temporary fix costing a £100 or spend £2,000 replacing the whole lot? I could understand it if we were spending on a desso pitch we could dig up and take it with us but to literally throw money down the drains seems odd. Plus we have the new gates and the Pirates portacabins being moved means it doesn't suggest that the UWE will be built anytime soon. I wonder if the club will also look at trying to squeeze more fans into the Mem? But if the hot water packed up, would you do without? Say you ran a hotel and the heating (a fairly key requirement for the business) packed up - or maybe just wasn't very good and it was getting mentioned on TripAdvisor and harming the business, and given that it's not that big a sum of money (relatively speaking) and you're there for two years yet....? They say the drains have collapsed and need replacing. They're taking the advice of someone whose looked into it and, probably reluctantly, allocated funds to do it. Yet folk, having seen the grass from a distance, after the driest winter in 20 years, declare the substructure to be fine and any work unnecessary and a waste of money. I don't get it. It must be weird to be so certain. Maybe the 80 grand job is the interim fix. I've never said I'm certain. To me, it looks a strange use of a substantial amount of money given we're meant to be vacating soon. If it was my money, I'd spend it on something else and tell the manager he's doing just fine on the pitch he's got. Its other peoples pitches he should be concentrating on
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 19:35:19 GMT
Seems very odd to me. We've already got the best pitch we've had since we moved to the Mem, £80k on a pitch we're only supposedly going to be using for a couple of years strikes me as a colossal waste of money. Buy a striker instead please. We unexpectedly sold one, so that gives us 80 grand to improve the pitch and £220k for other stuff (like a striker to play on it - or two or three, given what I'd expect to pay for up and coming talent and the Tillson record* still standing). Alternatively it's being funded by having an extra 200(ish) on the gate. It strikes me as not unreasonable maintenance while we're there, assuming that they're doing it because people who know more about it than I do say that it's needed, and not because they've got a thing about drains. On that basis (which seems sound), it's good news that they're cracking on and doing it rather than making do and hoping, as per the traditional approach. * Edit: Or is it the Channing record? I can't remember off-hand, someone can clarify, but it's quarter of a century ago either way. According to my memory, the record is £370k for Tillson, which was around the same time we spent £250k(?) on Channing, and about £100k on Gary Waddock. All from QPR, I think.
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Post by LincsBlue on May 3, 2017 19:52:38 GMT
know nothing much about drainage but is it purely to do with the playing surface? Could it be general drainage for the whole ground...so deemed necessary now as it would have a bearing on land value when wanting to sell in 2 or 3 years time? A case of a stitch in time
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 3, 2017 19:54:45 GMT
Let's be honest if the guttering on your house which was being demolished in a couple of years started leaking, would you do a temporary fix costing a £100 or spend £2,000 replacing the whole lot? I could understand it if we were spending on a desso pitch we could dig up and take it with us but to literally throw money down the drains seems odd. Plus we have the new gates and the Pirates portacabins being moved means it doesn't suggest that the UWE will be built anytime soon. I wonder if the club will also look at trying to squeeze more fans into the Mem? One of the stewards let it slip, v Millwall, that the temporary bar to the rear of the West stand is to be permanently covered and now I read this I can't help but wonder if my hope of a revamped mem could happen as plan B ? 80K on the pitch is all down to DC as he's very unhappy at the pitch, grass length and way it runs. I guess we shall see soon enough. You know, I just can't imagine our owners spending that amount + the other small but meaningful things, without good reason.
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 3, 2017 20:20:27 GMT
Let's be honest if the guttering on your house which was being demolished in a couple of years started leaking, would you do a temporary fix costing a £100 or spend £2,000 replacing the whole lot? I could understand it if we were spending on a desso pitch we could dig up and take it with us but to literally throw money down the drains seems odd. Plus we have the new gates and the Pirates portacabins being moved means it doesn't suggest that the UWE will be built anytime soon. I wonder if the club will also look at trying to squeeze more fans into the Mem? Duplicated
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2017 21:14:38 GMT
Let's be honest if the guttering on your house which was being demolished in a couple of years started leaking, would you do a temporary fix costing a £100 or spend £2,000 replacing the whole lot? I could understand it if we were spending on a desso pitch we could dig up and take it with us but to literally throw money down the drains seems odd. Plus we have the new gates and the Pirates portacabins being moved means it doesn't suggest that the UWE will be built anytime soon. I wonder if the club will also look at trying to squeeze more fans into the Mem? One of the stewards let it slip, v Millwall, that the temporary bar to the rear of the West stand is to be permanently covered and now I read this I can't help but wonder if my hope of a revamped mem could happen as plan B ? 80K on the pitch is all down to DC as he's very unhappy at the pitch, grass length and way it runs. I guess we shall see soon enough. You know, I just can't imagine our owners spending that amount + the other small but meaningful things, without good reason. You could also say attendance up and if the club continues to do well we need to maximise the profit in the next two seasons. £80k for drainage and a roof on a temporary bar a bit of paint etc could be money very well spent. I think we will all know which way this is going once signings have been announced.
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Post by irishrover on May 3, 2017 22:16:27 GMT
Oh god - we're only 3 days in and we've already strayed deep into offseason territory; in depth analysis and arguments about whether 80k is reasonable to spend on drainage and conspiracy theories about what this may signify (for what it's worth I'm sure it's a sign we're about to be bought by Alan Sugar who will install George Graham as manager.....). Come back football all is forgiven!
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 4, 2017 16:51:18 GMT
Oh god - we're only 3 days in and we've already strayed deep into offseason territory; in depth analysis and arguments about whether 80k is reasonable to spend on drainage and conspiracy theories about what this may signify (for what it's worth I'm sure it's a sign we're about to be bought by Alan Sugar who will install George Graham as manager.....). Come back football all is forgiven! I think you're the only one sounding agitated Irish. It's just football and you will see the same on every other football teams forums. We all speculate and hope for good news is all. I don't think anyone is showing bad intent
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 4, 2017 16:52:33 GMT
One of the stewards let it slip, v Millwall, that the temporary bar to the rear of the West stand is to be permanently covered and now I read this I can't help but wonder if my hope of a revamped mem could happen as plan B ? 80K on the pitch is all down to DC as he's very unhappy at the pitch, grass length and way it runs. I guess we shall see soon enough. You know, I just can't imagine our owners spending that amount + the other small but meaningful things, without good reason. You could also say attendance up and if the club continues to do well we need to maximise the profit in the next two seasons. £80k for drainage and a roof on a temporary bar a bit of paint etc could be money very well spent. I think we will all know which way this is going once signings have been announced. Just wish they kept the bar open after second half KO. Would have been nice to sample just one more swift one
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