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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 22:15:19 GMT
If memory serves, when he went didn't Arse have that clown Wojciech Szczęsny as their No 1? If so, Matt could have been forgiven for thinking that he had a fighting chance of taking the No 1 jersey in the near future. Like Tomaszewski ? No idea how good or bad Tomaszewski really was, but he was pretty flipping good when it mattered most to England
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 17, 2016 13:51:05 GMT
No idea how good or bad Tomaszewski really was, but he was pretty flipping good when it mattered most to England Clough making the clown comment was what I was referencing to. He was a decent keeper, not top class but remember that Polish side were army, just the way it was in communist ruled Poland in those days. No doubt there were much better keepers but he did a great job and even the eventual winners, West Germany, said the best team in the tournament were Poland and that they got lucky with a pitch so sodden no one would play on it now. They went onto best Brasil and get the silver medal as 3rd placed. Also repeated that again but with a certain Zbigniew Boniek as the first Polish superstar. Man City bought Deyna and a few of that squad played abroad. It was no embarrassment to England even though I took a hiding over the park i have always suffered the duality of my birth place and my birth heritage. I've always been a Poland fan and I stay in to watch if zEngland ever have to play against us. It used to cause me a LOT of problems when younger but, luckily, people now seem more tolerant OR it's age lol
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 17, 2016 13:51:18 GMT
No idea how good or bad Tomaszewski really was, but he was pretty flipping good when it mattered most to England Clough making the clown comment was what I was referencing to. He was a decent keeper, not top class but remember that Polish side were army, just the way it was in communist ruled Poland in those days. No doubt there were much better keepers but he did a great job and even the eventual winners, West Germany, said the best team in the tournament were Poland and that they got lucky with a pitch so sodden no one would play on it now. They went onto best Brasil and get the silver medal as 3rd placed. Also repeated that again but with a certain Zbigniew Boniek as the first Polish superstar. Man City bought Deyna and a few of that squad played abroad. It was no embarrassment to England even though I took a hiding over the park i have always suffered the duality of my birth place and my birth heritage. I've always been a Poland fan and I stay in to watch if zEngland ever have to play against us. It used to cause me a LOT of problems when younger but, luckily, people now seem more tolerant OR it's age lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 14:13:29 GMT
No idea how good or bad Tomaszewski really was, but he was pretty flipping good when it mattered most to England Clough making the clown comment was what I was referencing to. He was a decent keeper, not top class but remember that Polish side were army, just the way it was in communist ruled Poland in those days. No doubt there were much better keepers but he did a great job and even the eventual winners, West Germany, said the best team in the tournament were Poland and that they got lucky with a pitch so sodden no one would play on it now. They went onto best Brasil and get the silver medal as 3rd placed. Also repeated that again but with a certain Zbigniew Boniek as the first Polish superstar. Man City bought Deyna and a few of that squad played abroad. It was no embarrassment to England even though I took a hiding over the park i have always suffered the duality of my birth place and my birth heritage. I've always been a Poland fan and I stay in to watch if zEngland ever have to play against us. It used to cause me a LOT of problems when younger but, luckily, people now seem more tolerant OR it's age lol Odd to say the least, less than 30 years after the end of the Battle of Britain, some people had an issue with you because you were born in Poland? Guess that just proves that every generation produces idiots
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 17, 2016 20:32:15 GMT
Clough making the clown comment was what I was referencing to. He was a decent keeper, not top class but remember that Polish side were army, just the way it was in communist ruled Poland in those days. No doubt there were much better keepers but he did a great job and even the eventual winners, West Germany, said the best team in the tournament were Poland and that they got lucky with a pitch so sodden no one would play on it now. They went onto best Brasil and get the silver medal as 3rd placed. Also repeated that again but with a certain Zbigniew Boniek as the first Polish superstar. Man City bought Deyna and a few of that squad played abroad. It was no embarrassment to England even though I took a hiding over the park i have always suffered the duality of my birth place and my birth heritage. I've always been a Poland fan and I stay in to watch if zEngland ever have to play against us. It used to cause me a LOT of problems when younger but, luckily, people now seem more tolerant OR it's age lol Odd to say the least, less than 30 years after the end of the Battle of Britain, some people had an issue with you because you were born in Poland? Guess that just proves that every generation produces idiots @bambergasgroin. You would be shocked at what I have had to deal with. At school it was mainly teachers !!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 21:00:21 GMT
Odd to say the least, less than 30 years after the end of the Battle of Britain, some people had an issue with you because you were born in Poland? Guess that just proves that every generation produces idiots @bambergasgroin . You would be shocked at what I have had to deal with. At school it was mainly teachers !! I would hope not history teachers? It's bizarre to say the least that more isn't made of the contribution of the Polish pilots, I think that without them the outcome of the entire thing could easily have been very different. There are some lovely stories, I'm sure you've heard them all before, but the story goes that you had the spectacle of battle hardened airmen who had found their way to these shores, at RAF Northolt being trained in British flying formation techniques which were different to what they had previously used, so they were given tricycles and made to cycle around the air base in formation for practice
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Post by kingswood Polak on Dec 20, 2016 15:05:22 GMT
@bambergasgroin . You would be shocked at what I have had to deal with. At school it was mainly teachers !! I would hope not history teachers? It's bizarre to say the least that more isn't made of the contribution of the Polish pilots, I think that without them the outcome of the entire thing could easily have been very different. There are some lovely stories, I'm sure you've heard them all before, but the story goes that you had the spectacle of battle hardened airmen who had found their way to these shores, at RAF Northolt being trained in British flying formation techniques which were different to what they had previously used, so they were given tricycles and made to cycle around the air base in formation for practice I just wish my father would have lived long enligh to have seen the TV programme "Bloody foreigners" which had an hourslomg episode dedicated to the efforts of the Polish forces and the truth at last being told that none of them we allowed to March in the victory parade. I know that hurt dad all of his days. His unit ( the 1st Polish armoured division) could have been in Berlin earlier than all but were stopped at Wilhelmshaven. The Polish were the only true losers in the war even though they fought on the winning side. Their country ceded to the soviet and my parents had no home to go to. He would have lobed it that the truth was at last told
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