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Post by laughinggas on Sept 22, 2016 15:45:55 GMT
Though at the moment not saying what reforms will take place.
Check breaking news on BBC FOOTBALL page, not letting me copy link at moment
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Post by laughinggas on Sept 22, 2016 15:46:10 GMT
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Post by Peter Parker on Sept 22, 2016 15:54:45 GMT
Good.
Now that is confirmed, perhaps there can be reasonable discussion on league re-structure without people worrying that B teams or Jocks will get in
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 16:02:11 GMT
Just leaving it how it is seems reasonable to me.
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Post by Peter Parker on Sept 22, 2016 16:19:11 GMT
Just leaving it how it is seems reasonable to me. That's fine as an argument against it.
I do think the league should debate it and it would be poor of the FL to not consider how their competition(s) should be/evolve going forward especially with all the money in the game
At least denouncing B Teams and the Scots, hopefully their can be reasonable debate without people getting their knickers in a knot about it being the beginning of the end by allowing them in
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Sept 22, 2016 16:47:07 GMT
A bit of sense at last now let's stick to a 46 game league season & not try to bankrupt clubs with a 38 game season, works for me.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Sept 22, 2016 16:54:53 GMT
In the interest of debate based on the EFL 'benefits':
1. what weekends & bank holidays aren't utilised under the present system & why can't they be?
2. solves a problem that is only serious in about 1 in 10 seasons
3. Losing income from 3 home games would take a lot of explaining
4. In what possible scenario would the play off finals ever not be the last weekend for the Football League?
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Post by irishrover on Sept 22, 2016 17:17:49 GMT
In the interest of debate based on the EFL 'benefits': 1. what weekends & bank holidays aren't utilised under the present system & why can't they be? 2. solves a problem that is only serious in about 1 in 10 seasons 3. Losing income from 3 home games would take a lot of explaining 4. In what possible scenario would the play off finals ever not be the last weekend for the Football League? All reasonable questions - I can't see any obvious logical premise on which the number of games gets reduced yet the income is guaranteed to rise. Nor can I see how weekends and bank holidays come into this argument when we seem to play on most bank holidays anyway. It seems that it is beholden on the football league to put together a mighty strong case and there's little evidence so far that they have much of a case at all.
Oh, and that's from someone who is fairly open minded about possible change. I don't really see any particular reason to be wedded to 46 games and 3 24 Team Leagues with 3 or 4 up and down (personally I'd like to see more promotion and relegation - more churn). If someone can explain how an alternative would be better I'm prepared to listen to it. But so far I see no logical argument at all.
From a Scottish perspective this may put the 'Atlantic' league idea back on the agenda for a bit I suppose. There is undoubtedly a big problem there - big clubs with massive support bases but who happen to play in small countries who have no hope of competing with the big leagues and are therefore being completely screwed by the current system. Rangers/Celtic, the Dutch giants, the Portuguese giants, historically big clubs in Scandinavia, Belgium, Central Europe etc have absolutely no chance of competing or improving through no fault of their own. I can begin to see how that massively untapped potential could produce some radical change because there's potentially a lot of money to be made if you got it right.
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Post by alloutofgas on Sept 22, 2016 18:11:55 GMT
Scottish football is f**king sh*te.
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Post by Peter Parker on Sept 22, 2016 18:18:58 GMT
In the interest of debate based on the EFL 'benefits': 1. what weekends & bank holidays aren't utilised under the present system & why can't they be? 2. solves a problem that is only serious in about 1 in 10 seasons 3. Losing income from 3 home games would take a lot of explaining 4. In what possible scenario would the play off finals ever not be the last weekend for the Football League? All reasonable questions - I can't see any obvious logical premise on which the number of games gets reduced yet the income is guaranteed to rise. Nor can I see how weekends and bank holidays come into this argument when we seem to play on most bank holidays anyway. It seems that it is beholden on the football league to put together a mighty strong case and there's little evidence so far that they have much of a case at all.
Oh, and that's from someone who is fairly open minded about possible change. I don't really see any particular reason to be wedded to 46 games and 3 24 Team Leagues with 3 or 4 up and down (personally I'd like to see more promotion and relegation - more churn). If someone can explain how an alternative would be better I'm prepared to listen to it. But so far I see no logical argument at all.
From a Scottish perspective this may put the 'Atlantic' league idea back on the agenda for a bit I suppose. There is undoubtedly a big problem there - big clubs with massive support bases but who happen to play in small countries who have no hope of competing with the big leagues and are therefore being completely screwed by the current system. Rangers/Celtic, the Dutch giants, the Portuguese giants, historically big clubs in Scandinavia, Belgium, Central Europe etc have absolutely no chance of competing or improving through no fault of their own. I can begin to see how that massively untapped potential could produce some radical change because there's potentially a lot of money to be made if you got it right.
Like you Irish i am not against change, but it is only proper to be debated. One of the options is no change Like you I dont see why there cant be more promotion/relegation whether that is a smaller division or a change amongst the current structure but i certainly dont see Championship clubs voting for say 4 going down. Possibly if the next but one was involved in the play-offs from the division below |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 18:43:52 GMT
Smaller division = less games = less fun + less trips to the pub. Bollocks.
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Post by Rex on Sept 25, 2016 19:08:02 GMT
Scottish football is f**king sh*te. How many Scottish games have you watched ? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 6:19:08 GMT
Scottish football is f**king sh*te. How many Scottish games have you watched ? I've watched quite a bit and it is but that shouldn't be a reason against them entering the league. |
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