GasMacc1
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Post by GasMacc1 on Aug 29, 2016 16:21:29 GMT
After four games in League One and two in the League Cup, Rovers' disciplinary record (yellow cards) is shown in the table below. Ollie Clarke | 4 | Scunny, Oxford, Southend, Swindon | Tom Lockyer | 2 | Scunny, Cardiff | Chris Lines | 2 | Oxford, Swindon | James Clarke | 1 | Oxford | Rory Gaffney | 1 | Oxford | Peter Hartley | 1 | Southend | Jermaine Easter | 1 | Chelsea | Matt Taylor | 1 | Chelsea | Stuart Sinclair | 1 | Swindon |
Young Ollie has a little way to go to match the performance of the master, though. Article on the BBC Sport site A cautionary tale for a Cobblers midfielder
Most footballers are desperate to get the dreaded pre-season out of the way and return to action after a lengthy summer devoid of the beautiful game. It seems that combative Northampton Town midfielder John-Joe O'Toole was a bit too desperate. The 27-year-old is already facing a ban having earned his fifth yellow card by the end of August. His barely-earned break follows being put on the naughty step in the games against Barnsley, Oldham, AFC Wimbledon and West Brom. He completed his quintet of cautions in the 1-1 draw with Coventry, so will be watching from the sidelines when the Cobblers face Wycombe in the Checkatrade Trophy on Tuesday. O'Toole actually avoided a booking in the season opener against Fleetwood but has since found considerable consistency, with yellow cards in five of the next six matches.
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Post by a more piratey game on Aug 29, 2016 16:48:25 GMT
and we were Fair Play award winners last season. The strain of the step up?
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GasMacc1
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Post by GasMacc1 on Aug 29, 2016 17:10:29 GMT
and we were Fair Play award winners last season. The strain of the step up? In terms of cards per game, Rovers are decidedly mid-table in League One. League One: Disciplinary TableThe three worst miscreants are Swindon, Northampton and Shrewsbury, each with over 2.4 yellow cards per game. The four clubs with the holiest records so far (or maybe they've had the most lenient referees) are Charlton, Bradford, Fleetwood and Scunny, all with less than 0.8 yellow cards per game. In fact, Charlton have only had one yellow card so far, in five League games!
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Igitur
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Post by Igitur on Aug 29, 2016 17:17:36 GMT
I often feel that yellows could be appealed as well as so many are so soft or downright wrong, but, yes I know, there are so many - perhaps refs could be asked to look again.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Aug 29, 2016 18:03:50 GMT
Just depends when in the season you get the trigger happy refs
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Aug 29, 2016 19:17:25 GMT
It's a valid point that although we have a disproportionately amount of issued yellow cards, we have had mostly woeful, inconsistent referees and refereeing decisions.
Across the board, we agree ben toner and gavin ward gave baffling decisions to the point of frustration.
I hope it evens out, as I don't think we have a nasty squad.
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Post by didlesknowmydad on Aug 29, 2016 23:44:13 GMT
and we were Fair Play award winners last season. The strain of the step up? In terms of cards per game, Rovers are decidedly mid-table in League One. League One: Disciplinary TableThe three worst miscreants are Swindon, Northampton and Shrewsbury, each with over 2.4 yellow cards per game. The four clubs with the holiest records so far (or maybe they've had the most lenient referees) are Charlton, Bradford, Fleetwood and Scunny, all with less than 0.8 yellow cards per game. In fact, Charlton have only had one yellow card so far, in five League games! So, in a game in which Rovers have six players given yellow cards, Scunthorpe get none? Rovers very dirty or ref very biased?
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Post by DudeLebowski on Aug 30, 2016 10:02:12 GMT
The fair play award may as well be retired right now. Who on earth is going to win it, with bookings now dished out like confetti?!
Show a bit of emotion, you're in the book.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Aug 30, 2016 10:49:26 GMT
On a side issue, are the new Premiership rules applied to the league regards shirt holding/pulling ??
could this me the issue here ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 11:55:33 GMT
In terms of cards per game, Rovers are decidedly mid-table in League One. League One: Disciplinary TableThe three worst miscreants are Swindon, Northampton and Shrewsbury, each with over 2.4 yellow cards per game. The four clubs with the holiest records so far (or maybe they've had the most lenient referees) are Charlton, Bradford, Fleetwood and Scunny, all with less than 0.8 yellow cards per game. In fact, Charlton have only had one yellow card so far, in five League games! So, in a game in which Rovers have six players given yellow cards, Scunthorpe get none? Rovers very dirty or ref very biased? We had 2 booked against Scunthorpe, not 6.
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irishrover
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Post by irishrover on Aug 30, 2016 14:44:34 GMT
I think it is relatively common for there to be a lot of yellow cards handed out early on in the season.
New rules/guidelines come in and referees are presumably being assessed on how well they enforce these. Likewise players need to adapt to the way rules are being engorced. Somewhere down the line a kind of muddy median is reached and everything will return roughly to normal I would think.
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brizzle
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Post by brizzle on Aug 30, 2016 15:39:22 GMT
and we were Fair Play award winners last season. The strain of the step up?. . . or possibly just trying too hard?
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Post by pencoedgas on Aug 30, 2016 15:54:23 GMT
After four games in League One and two in the League Cup, Rovers' disciplinary record (yellow cards) is shown in the table below. Ollie Clarke | 4 | Scunny, Oxford, Southend, Swindon | Tom Lockyer | 2 | Scunny, Cardiff | Chris Lines | 2 | Oxford, Swindon | James Clarke | 1 | Oxford | Rory Gaffney | 1 | Oxford | Peter Hartley | 1 | Southend | Jermaine Easter | 1 | Chelsea | Matt Taylor | 1 | Chelsea | Stuart Sinclair | 1 | Swindon |
Young Ollie has a little way to go to match the performance of the master, though. Article on the BBC Sport site A cautionary tale for a Cobblers midfielder
Most footballers are desperate to get the dreaded pre-season out of the way and return to action after a lengthy summer devoid of the beautiful game. It seems that combative Northampton Town midfielder John-Joe O'Toole was a bit too desperate. The 27-year-old is already facing a ban having earned his fifth yellow card by the end of August. His barely-earned break follows being put on the naughty step in the games against Barnsley, Oldham, AFC Wimbledon and West Brom. He completed his quintet of cautions in the 1-1 draw with Coventry, so will be watching from the sidelines when the Cobblers face Wycombe in the Checkatrade Trophy on Tuesday. O'Toole actually avoided a booking in the season opener against Fleetwood but has since found considerable consistency, with yellow cards in five of the next six matches.
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Post by pencoedgas on Aug 30, 2016 15:56:17 GMT
I believe the Swindon bookings are scrubbed because the game was abandoned and will be replayed.
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brizzle
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Post by brizzle on Aug 30, 2016 16:07:09 GMT
I believe the Swindon bookings are scrubbed because the game was abandoned and will be replayed. Unless there has been a change in the rules that I've missed (and that's quite possible by the way ), then any yellow or red cards picked up during the course of a game will still count against the player.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 16:24:42 GMT
They should still count. The 'offences' committed didn't not happen because it subsequently started raining.
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Post by pencoedgas on Aug 30, 2016 16:58:07 GMT
Took this from the FIFA rules (albeit 2011) which made me think they were scrubbed:
4. If an abandoned match is to be replayed, any caution issued during that match shall be annulled. If the match is not to be replayed, the cautions received by the team responsible for causing the match to be abandoned are upheld; if both teams are responsible, all of the cautions are upheld.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2016 17:00:26 GMT
Well I guess it depends on if both teams were responsible for the rain, then
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Bridgeman
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Post by Bridgeman on Aug 30, 2016 21:30:43 GMT
Took this from the FIFA rules (albeit 2011) which made me think they were scrubbed: 4. If an abandoned match is to be replayed, any caution issued during that match shall be annulled. If the match is not to be replayed, the cautions received by the team responsible for causing the match to be abandoned are upheld; if both teams are responsible, all of the cautions are upheld. According to what was reported both managers wanted the game to continue ! It would seem unfair, at least to me, if bookings weren't annulled but the scorers of any goals have them scrubbed from the record book. I think this happened to us in the 'lightening' game.
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Post by Angas on Aug 30, 2016 22:02:03 GMT
Took this from the FIFA rules (albeit 2011) which made me think they were scrubbed: 4. If an abandoned match is to be replayed, any caution issued during that match shall be annulled. If the match is not to be replayed, the cautions received by the team responsible for causing the match to be abandoned are upheld; if both teams are responsible, all of the cautions are upheld. According to what was reported both managers wanted the game to continue ! DC on that topic pre match this evening. Around 14 minutes in - www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p044rmnb
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