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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 24, 2016 15:03:23 GMT
Can't agree that it's a progressive career choice. An ambitious manager wouldn't go near that job given the current situation at the club. It's a step backwards is it?
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Post by falsenumber9 on May 24, 2016 15:16:11 GMT
Can't agree that it's a progressive career choice. An ambitious manager wouldn't go near that job given the current situation at the club. It's a step backwards is it? Certainly in the longer term. He would find himself on the managerial scrap heap very quickly under that regime.
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Post by faggotygas on May 24, 2016 15:19:46 GMT
It's a step backwards is it? Certainly in the longer term. He would find himself on the managerial scrap heap very quickly under that regime. Is that scrap heap situated anywhere near the managerial merry-go-round?
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 24, 2016 15:24:33 GMT
It's a step backwards is it? Certainly in the longer term. He would find himself on the managerial scrap heap very quickly under that regime. Maybe, on assumption DC wouldn't be successful. He seems to fit dysfunctional underperforming clubs, and he might just feel it is right for him. Have to say I'm surprised at Leeds approach. They usually pursue higher profile and proven at that level prospects..
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Post by Jon the Stripe on May 24, 2016 15:31:04 GMT
from OTIB and I take with a huge pinch of salt. No idea where it come from and doesn't make sense DC knows this and has had no concrete assurances about his future and investment in the team.
The only firm offer has been new contracts for the squad.
Nor has the back room staff had any firm assurances about their futures.
When I heard the Leeds interest the other night it was received by the company I was with positively and dare I say it with the money being quoted an offer hard to refuse.
Expect much more discontent, this is just the beginning.
when asked about this rumour Not a rumour, was intent on doing so until Wael spent time with him and the team, gave him to end of season as saw a promotion was likely if he didn't rock the boat.
As of yesterday there was no offer on the table for DC from your club, he's only reacted due to this news.
There really is no love lost between both parties. Hate to say it PP but that's pretty much what I have been told too! Hope they're wrong. Edit: except the last line I haven't heard that.
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Post by vaughan on May 24, 2016 15:43:23 GMT
So what have you heard exactly?
There is a rift between President /Chairman and Manager?
Do me a favour - we have had 2 weeks since the end of the season and the ITK merchants are plying their wares on the Forum.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 15:45:27 GMT
If Leeds have made an official approach then I would bet a pound to a penny that talks have already taken place either directly or indirectly with DC.
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Post by Peter Parker on May 24, 2016 15:58:00 GMT
from OTIB and I take with a huge pinch of salt. No idea where it come from and doesn't make sense DC knows this and has had no concrete assurances about his future and investment in the team.
The only firm offer has been new contracts for the squad.
Nor has the back room staff had any firm assurances about their futures.
When I heard the Leeds interest the other night it was received by the company I was with positively and dare I say it with the money being quoted an offer hard to refuse.
Expect much more discontent, this is just the beginning.
when asked about this rumour Not a rumour, was intent on doing so until Wael spent time with him and the team, gave him to end of season as saw a promotion was likely if he didn't rock the boat.
As of yesterday there was no offer on the table for DC from your club, he's only reacted due to this news.
There really is no love lost between both parties. Hate to say it PP but that's pretty much what I have been told too! Hope they're wrong. Edit: except the last line I haven't heard that.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Wael might of had his own ideas when he initially came in or was preparing to takeover
DC was a bit miffed when it happened, but I think that was more being caught unawares and not been let in on the news by the old BoD. Wouldn’t surprise me if he was a little worried what that might mean for him at the time.
They could well have sat down and talked things through and the board/WAQ think yeah he is okay
Why would they allow DC to promise all the players contracts in the event of promotion?
He is on a 12 month rolling deal. If they wanted rid, they could easily have let Leeds approach once a suitable compo fee was agreed and spun a yarn “can’t stand in his way”, “Earnt it” etc
In the aftermath of promotion, DC seems relaxed/relieved and it was all about having a break before coming back. He seems to wear his heart on his sleeve and much like when the takeover happened you can tell if something has got his Goat
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Post by Centenary Gas on May 24, 2016 16:12:30 GMT
David Anderson @mirroranderson 1h1 hour ago Massimo Cellino says he has not decided on Leeds' new boss as Bristol Rovers claim they have rejected an approach for Darrell Clarke.
David Anderson @mirroranderson 1h1 hour ago Cellino says he is in Italy taking to another contender, who is not Italian, but who speaks good English.
David Anderson @mirroranderson 1h1 hour ago "I have not decided about the manager," said Cellino. "I'm in Italy now meeting another before I decide."
Anyone want to remind him the last one is still employed?
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Post by vaughan on May 24, 2016 16:15:47 GMT
All this "I've been told, that's what I have heard" stuff does my head in.
If you have information, then why not share it? Wael will not ban you from the ground.
Different era. Same old Forum behaviour.
JTS - this is the second swipe you have made in last 2 days. Are you Jim in disguise?
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Post by Finnish Gas on May 24, 2016 16:16:25 GMT
2014–Present: The Cellino eraOn 5 April, Cellino was successful in his appeal with independent QC Tim Kerr to take over the club. The takeover was completed on 10 April with Cellino's company, Eleonora Sport Limited, buying 75 per cent of the club's shares. Two months later, the inexperienced Dave Hockaday was surprisingly appointed head coach, with Junior Lewis hired as his assistant.[50] After only 70 days, the pair were fired by Cellino. Darko Milanič was given the Head Coach position in September 2014, but left the club the following month. On 1 November 2014, Neil Redfearn was confirmed as the new Head Coach. On 1 December 2014, Cellino was disqualified by the Football League after they obtained documents from an Italian court, where he was found guilty of tax evasion. He was disqualified from running the club until 10 April 2015, and on 24 February 2015, Cellino announced he would not be returning to the club after his ban ended. On 30 October 2015, Cellino agreed a deal in principle with Leeds Fans Utd to sell a majority stake in the club. When asked to legally commit to an exclusivity period to allow due diligence to commence, he reneged.[ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeds_United_F.C. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massimo_CellinoBrian McDermott - Massimo Cellino questioned McDermott's decision to take a holiday! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_McDermott_%28footballer%29Dave Hockaday - after only 70 days was fired by Cellino en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Hockaday Darko Milanič - dismissed 32 days after taking over. " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darko_Milani%C4%Neil Redfearn - Cellino in an interview with The Sunday Mirror proclaimed Redfearn to be 'weak' and 'a baby'. Caretaker - 28 August 2014 to 23 September 2014 Head Coach - 1 November 2014 to 20 May 2015 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_RedfearnUwe Rösler - he was sacked after just two wins from 12 games in charge. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uwe_R%C3%B6slerSteve Evans - 9 October 2015 to present en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Evans_%28footballer,_born_1962%29 Karl RobinsonOn 23 May 2016, it was revealed that Robinson had turned down the opportunity from Massimo Cellino to become Leeds United's Head Coach www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36364264Does anyone think that Darrell could work with the constant meddling of Massimo Cellino? Great bargaining chip for a new contract with the Gas but am sure that Darrell is astute enough to have a quick word with Dave Hockaday and other managers before getting into bed with Cellino.
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Post by Peter Parker on May 24, 2016 16:22:52 GMT
I am sure there are plenty of monetary reason for joining but does working for a bloke who has yet to sack the manager he already have but approaching others really appeal
Seems very disrespectful even if it is Steve Evans
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Post by Finnish Gas on May 24, 2016 16:22:59 GMT
How much would it cost Leeds United to release Darrell Clarke from his Bristol Rovers contract?By JamesMcNamara | Posted: May 24, 2016 CONSIDERING the job Darrell Clarke has done at Bristol Rovers over the last two years, it is difficult to quantify his worth to the club. Owner Wael Al-Qadi and his board have this morning attempted to put a figure on it and have presented it to Clarke in the shape of an offer of a new and improved long-term contract. Read more: Bristol Rovers confirm Leeds United make formal approach to speak to Darrell Clarke Here's everything you need to know about Clarke's current deal at the Memorial Stadium - and what it would require for Leeds to prise him away from Rovers. What sort of deal is Darrell Clarke currently on?Such was Clarke's desire to take the Rovers job when in April 2014, the manager was willing to accept a significantly lower wage than many of his recent predecessors. Paul Trollope, Paul Buckle, Mark McGhee and John Ward were all remunerated at a higher rate than Clarke accepted to take the position. His terms were finally improved last summer after leading Rovers back to the Football League. It has been revealed today that he has been offered a three-year-deal on significantly improved terms to replace the 12-month rolling contract that he has been on since taking the job. What is a rolling contract?A rolling contract for is particularly prevalent for football managers at the lower levels of the game. It guarantees a 'sacked' manager a period of 12 months' pay if they are removed, which is usually cheaper than having to pay off one the club might want to get rid of 12 months into a three-year contract. It also gives the club some protection should a higher league club come calling for their manager - as has happened in this case – but the relatively short-term nature of the contract usually means the level of compensation they will receive in the event of a departure is reduced. How much will it cost Leeds United to get their man?Sources suggest that Massimo Chellino is determined to get his man, yet Rovers are determined to keep him. They will hope Clarke will be swayed by the new contract that has been offered to him. Should Leeds meet the requirements to talk to their preferred target and then manage to persuade him to swap the Memorial Stadium for Elland Road, Rovers are expected to demand a six-figure sum in compensation of somewhere in the region of £200,000. Read more: www.bristolpost.co.uk/cost-Leeds-United-release-Darrell-Clarke-Bristol/story-29313653-detail/story.html
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Post by Westcountry Gas on May 24, 2016 16:26:34 GMT
I am sure there are plenty of monetary reason for joining but does working for a bloke who has yet to sack the manager he already have but approaching others really appeal Seems very disrespectful even if it is Steve Evans Evans contract expires in a few weeks time, i don't think it's a case of having to sack him.
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Post by vaughan on May 24, 2016 16:33:47 GMT
So wait a sec, Steve Evans was offered a 10 month contract at Leeds (if it expires in June 2016) and Clarke will be offered a much better deal. Lucrative AND secure?
I would love to know if all the previous LUFC managers have been fully paid up, if this man has been found guilty of tax evasion.
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Post by gasheadnaboo on May 24, 2016 16:35:22 GMT
I am sure there are plenty of monetary reason for joining but does working for a bloke who has yet to sack the manager he already have but approaching others really appeal Seems very disrespectful even if it is Steve Evans Evans contract expires in a few weeks time, i don't think it's a case of having to sack him. Like Clarke, Evans is on a rolling contract so would be owed at least some compensation.
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Post by Jon the Stripe on May 24, 2016 16:35:55 GMT
All this "I've been told, that's what I have heard" stuff does my head in. If you have information, then why not share it? Wael will not ban you from the ground. Different era. Same old Forum behaviour. JTS - this is the second swipe you have made in last 2 days. Are you Jim in disguise? No just me. Sorry if you feel offended. I'll jog on shall I
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Post by Westcountry Gas on May 24, 2016 16:38:24 GMT
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Post by gasheadnaboo on May 24, 2016 16:40:47 GMT
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Post by brizzle on May 24, 2016 16:48:04 GMT
All this "I've been told, that's what I have heard" stuff does my head in. If you have information, then why not share it? Wael will not ban you from the ground. Different era. Same old Forum behaviour. JTS - this is the second swipe you have made in last 2 days. Are you Jim in disguise? No just me. Sorry if you feel offended. I'll jog on shall I Roll with the punches JTS, roll with the punches.
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