Bridgeman
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Post by Bridgeman on May 22, 2016 16:40:14 GMT
I understand the BRSC has about 3500 members and Jim is an elected Chairman and takes our views forward to the Board and has always done this.It is a voluntary position means attending regular meetings and doing duties on a matchday while many other thousands are down the pub and turning up 5 mins before kickoff then complaining at the long queues to get through the turnstiles. Get real people ..without a BRSC the Club would not function on a matchday. Praise those who give up their personal time for your sake and that of the Club they support. Elected by the Executive Committee, not by the membership. Not sure Jim meets with the BoD regularly, that's done by Masters and BSS. Turnstile queues are nothing to do with the SC, unless you know different? Everybody recognises and is grateful for the hours of unseen and unpaid work done by volunteers, can you point me towards posts suggesting otherwise?The SC Chairman's jottings imply they aren't, despite a number of people I know who say the staff consider the recognition they get now has definitely improved as has their views being taken into account by the new owners. It does make you wonder what that 'swat' at the new owners was really about ?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 16:56:11 GMT
Last I heard, the SC was supposed to represent the views and interests of all supporters. There were benefits to being a SC member, but having your views represented wasn't one of them. ts what it says on the label a club and can only speak for its members,very much like the Muirfield vote last week,the majority of the country say women should be allowed but the MEMBERS voted against it,simple really if you are in the club you may be able to influence the way thing are being done if not then you cannot,like if you don't vote you gave up your right to complain about the way the country is being run Did the members of BRSC vote to be bloody rude and sneer at the people who diverted the club from financial meltdown and get carried shoulder high down Gloucester Road?
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Post by Mario Balotelli on May 22, 2016 17:01:23 GMT
WAQ did not take the glory and even in an interview he said he couldn't and it was down to DC and the boys. I hope NH is just as willing to admit he's the reason we went from League One to the Conference in the first place? He's the reason we were in debt we couldn't afford and the reason we took out stupid payday loans. If it wasn't for WAQ our future was at risk. The problem is that Jim in his position has to speak for the fans and all he's done is speak about his views. Strange he never chirped up under the old management. I feel someone is a bit bitter that he's no longer necessary. He should step down. If Wael did not take the glory then by the same reasoning why should NH take the blame,if DC and the players were responsible for the upturn in results then by the same token they were responsible for the results prior to the takeover,you cannot have it both ways,and as I have said on another topic join the sc and stand against JC if you feel that strongly about it Firstly, what are you going on about? Your post is so irrelevant to what I posted. Did you read it? Why are DC and the current crop of players responsible for taking us from League 1 to the Conference? Why are they responsible for chasing a lost cause in the Sainsburys case and why are they to blame for NH taking out payday loans and banning anyone he doesn't like from entering the stadium? That was my post. Your response is confusing. The results weren't poor before the takeover? You're always looking for a reason to have a dig at DC and this is one of the strangest you've came up with! No way at all relevant to what I posted. In terms of "Why should NH take the blame"(For the things mentioned in my post) - Because he's trying to claim he took us from The Conference to League 1? Fair, he can do that. WAQ didn't fund any new players. But is he not man enough to admit all of his failings?
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Angas
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Post by Angas on May 22, 2016 17:44:59 GMT
Nope. He's speaking on his own behalf. Possibly also on behalf of the volunteers. But on behalf of the general SC membership? Only if he canvassed them before putting pen to paper. Do you know if he did? I was asked for my thoughts,but then I am a sc member probably an endangered species at this club I'm glad he asked for your thoughts before writing. Did he ask for all SC members' thoughts? It's not clear in the article that he is speaking for anyone other than himself and those who volunteer. If he is representing the views of the majority of SC members then perhaps it's something he should take direct to Steve Hamer. It seems there is definitely a conversation to be had between the two of them and, from what I've seen so far, the new chairman appears very approachable.
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Angas
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Post by Angas on May 22, 2016 17:54:18 GMT
So stand for chairman at the next agm,simple Not quite so simple:- 5.2 Anyone wishing to stand for election must be a fully paid up member (and in the case of the post of Chairperson having served on the EC for a period of at least one year)
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 17:56:05 GMT
So stand for chairman at the next agm,simple Not quite so simple:- 5.2 Anyone wishing to stand for election must be a fully paid up member (and in the case of the post of Chairperson having served on the EC for a period of at least one year) So it's easier to become a SC Director then?
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 22, 2016 18:03:06 GMT
Well yes and no. It may be boring to debate it as a friend once wrote to me, boredom 'is an individually constructed and mediated cognitive phenomenon' I absolutely adore that and will now nick it. I may even sound a bit clever like, innit lol
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 18:06:32 GMT
Not quite so simple:- 5.2 Anyone wishing to stand for election must be a fully paid up member (and in the case of the post of Chairperson having served on the EC for a period of at least one year) So it's easier to become a SC Director then? There was a time when you could stand for that position without even joining the Share Scheme. But you would need a flipping neck to do that!! But going back to the point Anne made, I'm pretty sure that under the constitution it's possible for the Executive Committee to co-opt a Chair without that person having met any of the stated requirements.
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Angas
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Post by Angas on May 22, 2016 18:08:08 GMT
Not quite so simple:- 5.2 Anyone wishing to stand for election must be a fully paid up member (and in the case of the post of Chairperson having served on the EC for a period of at least one year) So it's easier to become a SC Director then? Ha ha. It appears so. And the term of office is longer.
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 22, 2016 18:10:05 GMT
I know Jim and wholeheartedly agree with his comments. Was a staggering PR disaster not to celebrate promotion via a bust our or a meal to thank the many unpaid volunteers who sustain the Club.The new owners came in and took the glory but Higgs and co paid for the wages of the players who obtained promotion. Supporters need to be recognised not disregarded. WAQ did not take the glory and even in an interview he said he couldn't and it was down to DC and the boys. I hope NH is just as willing to admit he's the reason we went from League One to the Conference in the first place? He's the reason we were in debt we couldn't afford and the reason we took out stupid payday loans. If it wasn't for WAQ our future was at risk. The problem is that Jim in his position has to speak for the fans and all he's done is speak about his views. Strange he never chirped up under the old management. I feel someone is a bit bitter that he's no longer necessary. He should step down. I think someone once posted that the guy who played Frazier, said he came to watch us as he was told the club wanted to be relevant or something like that. I think dear old Jim has shown that he is certainly not relevant nor is the SC, not in its current form. I really would like to see some of the 06 people involved now. I don't know if they would be prepared to do so but now is the time for sure
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 18:11:21 GMT
Nope. He's speaking on his own behalf. Possibly also on behalf of the volunteers. But on behalf of the general SC membership? Only if he canvassed them before putting pen to paper. Do you know if he did? I was asked for my thoughts,but then I am a sc member probably an endangered species at this club Does that make you superior to us that aren't, then?
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Angas
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Post by Angas on May 22, 2016 18:12:09 GMT
So it's easier to become a SC Director then? There was a time when you could stand for that position without even joining the Share Scheme. But you would need a flipping neck to do that!! But going back to the point Anne made, I'm pretty sure that under the constitution it's possible for the Executive Committee to co-opt a Chair without that person having met any of the stated requirements. The rules & regs are here if you feel inclined to plough through them - bristolroverssc.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/brfc_rules.pdf(Padstow might like to note that some of those he's quick to condemn, played quite a significant part in updating the rules way back when, when there actually appeared to be some point in getting actively involved in BRSC.)
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kingswood Polak
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 22, 2016 18:13:38 GMT
It's become a really boring and pointless thread. Who gives a sh1t , it's really all in the past. Let's think of brighter things It's the summer, we need something to moan about. When England get knocked out in the upcoming group stages we will have all forgotten about ' Busgate'.
Can I get some some sort of copyright on #Busgate , I'm sure it will go viral soon
You'll habe to do better than that to beat #Smirkgate. GD still hates that
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Cheshiregas
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Post by Cheshiregas on May 22, 2016 18:36:13 GMT
I'm a paid up SC member and couldn't give less of a sh/t about an open top bus parading absolutely nothing at all. But then what do my views matter, after missing only 8 games all season I'm merely one of the 'Gloucester Road drinkers' who wallowed in the 'Presidential visit' long into the night. As a plastic glory hunter not fit to be called a Gashead the only insult you are missing is being told to f**k off to Ashton Gate. I'm sure it will come if you persevere....
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Post by Cheshiregas on May 22, 2016 18:38:45 GMT
Nope. He's speaking on his own behalf. Possibly also on behalf of the volunteers. But on behalf of the general SC membership? Only if he canvassed them before putting pen to paper. Do you know if he did? I was asked for my thoughts,but then I am a sc member probably an endangered species at this club Padstow i am also a member of the SC and about 3,000 others I believe so you are not as endangered as you think...
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 18:40:01 GMT
Nope. He's speaking on his own behalf. Possibly also on behalf of the volunteers. But on behalf of the general SC membership? Only if he canvassed them before putting pen to paper. Do you know if he did? I was asked for my thoughts,but then I am a sc member probably an endangered species at this club you were asked for your thoughts, so are you in agreement with the pile of crap written by mr chappell ?
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harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on May 22, 2016 18:43:56 GMT
I understand the BRSC has about 3500 members and Jim is an elected Chairman and takes our views forward to the Board and has always done this.It is a voluntary position means attending regular meetings and doing duties on a matchday while many other thousands are down the pub and turning up 5 mins before kickoff then complaining at the long queues to get through the turnstiles. Get real people ..without a BRSC the Club would not function on a matchday. Praise those who give up their personal time for your sake and that of the Club they support. Elected by the Executive Committee, not by the membership. Not sure Jim meets with the BoD regularly, that's done by Masters and BSS. Turnstile queues are nothing to do with the SC, unless you know different? Everybody recognises and is grateful for the hours of unseen and unpaid work done by volunteers, can you point me towards posts suggesting otherwise? Jim and his deputy Chris Walker regularly meet the old and new board members it is not confined to BSS and Ken. As regards pointing towards posts about the volunteers ....I was merely stating the bleeding obvious which appears the only way of making a valid point on here. Supporters Club members like myself constantly seek explanations from the Executive Committee and I have always had suitable responses. Never been a problem as far as I am concerned in the 40 years I have been a member of BRSC.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 18:47:41 GMT
Elected by the Executive Committee, not by the membership. Not sure Jim meets with the BoD regularly, that's done by Masters and BSS. Turnstile queues are nothing to do with the SC, unless you know different? Everybody recognises and is grateful for the hours of unseen and unpaid work done by volunteers, can you point me towards posts suggesting otherwise? Jim and his deputy Chris Walker regularly meet the old and new board members it is not confined to BSS and Ken. As regards pointing towards posts about the volunteers ....I was merely stating the bleeding obvious which appears the only way of making a valid point on here. Supporters Club members like myself constantly seek explanations from the Executive Committee and I have always had suitable responses. Never been a problem as far as I am concerned in the 40 years I have been a member of BRSC. ask jim c if you see him before me what prompted him to write that post ? please
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Post by Peter Parker on May 22, 2016 18:48:17 GMT
Elected by the Executive Committee, not by the membership. Not sure Jim meets with the BoD regularly, that's done by Masters and BSS. Turnstile queues are nothing to do with the SC, unless you know different? Everybody recognises and is grateful for the hours of unseen and unpaid work done by volunteers, can you point me towards posts suggesting otherwise? Jim and his deputy Chris Walker regularly meet the old and new board members it is not confined to BSS and Ken. As regards pointing towards posts about the volunteers ....I was merely stating the bleeding obvious which appears the only way of making a valid point on here. Supporters Club members like myself constantly seek explanations from the Executive Committee and I have always had suitable responses. Never been a problem as far as I am concerned in the 40 years I have been a member of BRSC. So we all have to go and find Jim and co on a matchday when they are busy to ask them questions.
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harrybuckle
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Post by harrybuckle on May 22, 2016 18:51:30 GMT
Jim and his deputy Chris Walker regularly meet the old and new board members it is not confined to BSS and Ken. As regards pointing towards posts about the volunteers ....I was merely stating the bleeding obvious which appears the only way of making a valid point on here. Supporters Club members like myself constantly seek explanations from the Executive Committee and I have always had suitable responses. Never been a problem as far as I am concerned in the 40 years I have been a member of BRSC. So we all have to go and find Jim and co on a matchday when they are busy to ask them questions. YES of course you should...Chris Walker will even sale you the winning 50/50 ticket just ten metres from the Blackthorn turnstiles as you hand over your £1 and Jim is always around near the Supporters Club cabin and the ticket office. Both are engaging ....providing you don't pay with a £50 note !
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