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Post by eppinggas on Apr 26, 2016 8:17:56 GMT
Oxford 4-5 on and Accrington evens.
So for both to win - you get 2.6-1.
Therefore the Bookies clearly don't think both will win.
Just sharing a bit of positivity ahead of Saturday...
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Post by crater on Apr 26, 2016 8:24:17 GMT
We just need to win.
A draw is not a good result.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 9:24:07 GMT
All I understand about betting odds is that things are never what they seem and the bookie always wins.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 26, 2016 10:10:03 GMT
All we can do is win both our remaining games. I think York habe their tails up and it won't be easy. I hope we stick out an unchanged side, from the one that finished the game V Exeter
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Post by billyocean on Apr 26, 2016 11:33:56 GMT
Interesting take on the odds. The outright odds for promotion aren't quite so positive but there isn't much in it. Obviously this includes going up through play-offs
2/7 Accrington
2/7 Oxford
4/11 Bristol Rovers
11/8 Portsmouth
2/1 Plymouth
3/1 Wimbledon
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Post by LincsBlue on Apr 26, 2016 12:05:26 GMT
One of those 3 short odds will lengthen by a lot when the autos are decided...or this Saturday night of one of us loses
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 12:33:30 GMT
All we can do is win both our remaining games. I think York habe their tails up and it won't be easy. I hope we stick out an unchanged side, from the one that finished the game V Exeter Have York got their tails up? They're going down by some distance and officially bumped out on Saturday losing 3-0 with 39% posession. Also, I think I've sensed (maybe imagined) D&R fans are fairly resigned to it, whereas York fans are less understanding and have a serious hump about it. I don't know how positive the last home game will be for them. Who knows? It's all speculation, which is all pretty futile, but is hard to resist. On paper, given the fixtures, I think we are more likely to get six points than (Accrington AND Oxford) get six points. That would do it. Then again, as they say, we don't play on paper and we can still throw a bad one. Hopefully, Stevenage was our bad one for the month. Also, before it gets any closer to home, looked at dispassionately well before it becomes more personal, I would think whichever of those three loses out ought to be favourites for the play-offs, based on consistent performance over the season (Oxford) and performance in 2016 (Acc and us) when compared with the fits-and-starts and fall short teams (Pompy and Plym) and the best of the rest (Wimbledon). Then again, probably the fitter and starters will play each other in the semis, so one will make the final, at which point will they fit or start? I stand by the gut feeling, though. In my water, so even more futile, I sense it wil be us 2nd; Acc 3rd. That's my colours nailed to the mast on pretty flimsy grounds. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 12:51:24 GMT
Seth.
I wouldn't fancy Wemberley again.
Shrews were by far the better team, we won with 2 great strikes and one piece of last minute suicide defending / goalkeeper attacking.
Grimsbury can count themselves mighty unlucky that we didn't have at least 1 player sent off.
Maybe it's our turn to go there and be the better team that comes away empty handed?
If someone could please order pizza from an outlet near White Hart Lane and have it delivered to the Oxford and Accy dressing rooms?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 13:18:36 GMT
Seth. I wouldn't fancy Wemberley again. Shrews were by far the better team, we won with 2 great strikes and one piece of last minute suicide defending / goalkeeper attacking. Grimsbury can count themselves mighty unlucky that we didn't have at least 1 player sent off. Maybe it's our turn to go there and be the better team that comes away empty handed? If someone could please order pizza from an outlet near White Hart Lane and have it delivered to the Oxford and Accy dressing rooms? Nor me (I still remember Huddersfield) but to veer back away from the luck and chemistry approach, I'd guess we'd be the opponents the others least wanted: recent form and the psychology from being there last year. I still don't want it, though. Then again, I have us finishing second. Ideally we'll enter the top two in the last seventeen minutes of the season  just for karma's sake, but that's probably being greedy, and I'd rather it was a few minutes after 3 next Saturday. |
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Post by csssmooth on Apr 26, 2016 13:56:46 GMT
Seth. I wouldn't fancy Wemberley again. Shrews were by far the better team, we won with 2 great strikes and one piece of last minute suicide defending / goalkeeper attacking. Grimsbury can count themselves mighty unlucky that we didn't have at least 1 player sent off. Maybe it's our turn to go there and be the better team that comes away empty handed? If someone could please order pizza from an outlet near White Hart Lane and have it delivered to the Oxford and Accy dressing rooms? Completely agree on the Grimsby side of this post. But there is no one on this Earth who could convince me Shrewsbury were better than us, they were lucky to be in the lead, we rightfully pulled 2 back before half time and were unlucky not to score a third before we did, and at no point in this game did I feel they were better than us. I have watched it a couple of times since and never changed my feeling on this, although beer goggles have probably been on each time. I suppose different people view games in different ways |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 14:00:05 GMT
Seth. I wouldn't fancy Wemberley again. Shrews were by far the better team, we won with 2 great strikes and one piece of last minute suicide defending / goalkeeper attacking. Grimsbury can count themselves mighty unlucky that we didn't have at least 1 player sent off. Maybe it's our turn to go there and be the better team that comes away empty handed? If someone could please order pizza from an outlet near White Hart Lane and have it delivered to the Oxford and Accy dressing rooms? Nor me (I still remember Huddersfield) but to veer back away from the luck and chemistry approach, I'd guess we'd be the opponents the others least wanted: recent form and the psychology from being there last year. I still don't want it, though. Then again, I have us finishing second. Ideally we'll enter the top two in the last seventeen minutes of the season just for karma's sake, but that's probably being greedy, and I'd rather it was a few minutes after 3 next Saturday. That brought a chuckle. ''I didn't see it coming, we were only 2nd for the last 20 minutes of the season. Wonder how much this will cost us, or will we make money? Bloody hell, I've got no idea what's going on, do we sack people or employ more, Oh Christ, now, don't panic, hang on, where's my copy of 'accounting for Dummies', flipping heck, wish we had thought about this earlier!'' We'll finish 3rd. Accy are flying and will finish 2nd, but Oxford will slip up and we'll grind down and overpower 2 already relegated teams. Going back to last year, Grimsbury have made the play offs (yet again), fingers crossed they'll be a League club again in a couple of weeks. |
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Post by p4perlant3rn on Apr 26, 2016 14:05:21 GMT
Crazy to think that York are on 33 points with two games to play yet we got relegated two years ago on 50 points and were dreadful for the vast majority of the season. Saturday is a huge opportunity to have it in our hands going into the D&G game.
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Post by Gashead on Apr 26, 2016 16:08:37 GMT
Crazy to think that York are on 33 points with two games to play yet we got relegated two years ago on 50 points and were dreadful for the vast majority of the season. Saturday is a huge opportunity to have it in our hands going into the D&G game. York have only lost 3 at home in 2016, let's not forget that. Its a game we need to win too. Won't be easy at all. I hope its more a Daggers or Hartlepool away rather than a Stevenage. |
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 26, 2016 17:57:26 GMT
All we can do is win both our remaining games. I think York habe their tails up and it won't be easy. I hope we stick out an unchanged side, from the one that finished the game V Exeter Have York got their tails up? They're going down by some distance and officially bumped out on Saturday losing 3-0 with 39% posession. Also, I think I've sensed (maybe imagined) D&R fans are fairly resigned to it, whereas York fans are less understanding and have a serious hump about it. I don't know how positive the last home game will be for them. Who knows? It's all speculation, which is all pretty futile, but is hard to resist. On paper, given the fixtures, I think we are more likely to get six points than (Accrington AND Oxford) get six points. That would do it. Then again, as they say, we don't play on paper and we can still throw a bad one. Hopefully, Stevenage was our bad one for the month. Also, before it gets any closer to home, looked at dispassionately well before it becomes more personal, I would think whichever of those three loses out ought to be favourites for the play-offs, based on consistent performance over the season (Oxford) and performance in 2016 (Acc and us) when compared with the fits-and-starts and fall short teams (Pompy and Plym) and the best of the rest (Wimbledon). Then again, probably the fitter and starters will play each other in the semis, so one will make the final, at which point will they fit or start? I stand by the gut feeling, though. In my water, so even more futile, I sense it wil be us 2nd; Acc 3rd. That's my colours nailed to the mast on pretty flimsy grounds. You are right. I don't know why but I had thought they won their last game but they lost it. It seems I am losing it too ! |
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Post by Rex on Apr 26, 2016 18:05:11 GMT
If we don't beat two sides that have already been relegated, then we only have ourselves to blame. That said, if we don't go up this season, whether through the play offs or automatically, I won't be too disappointed. I felt it was really important to go up last season, this season it would be a bonus.
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Post by eppinggas on Apr 26, 2016 19:53:10 GMT
Well - I've stuck £10 on an Accy Pox double at 2.6 - 1. If that comes in (and we win as well) - then I'll stick the £36 on another Accy Pox double. The Bookies are saying we won't all win the remaining games. The Bookies cannot foretell the future. Their odds only reflect where casual objective punters and professional gamblers are putting their money.
Of course being Gashead / Poxfan / Accy - it's hard to be objective...
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Post by DudeLebowski on Apr 26, 2016 20:21:34 GMT
Plot twist:
Oxford lose both their remaining games.
You know where you heard it.
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Post by billyocean on Apr 26, 2016 20:44:41 GMT
Well - I've stuck £10 on an Accy Pox double at 2.6 - 1. If that comes in (and we win as well) - then I'll stick the £36 on another Accy Pox double. The Bookies are saying we won't all win the remaining games. The Bookies cannot foretell the future. Their odds only reflect where casual objective punters and professional gamblers are putting their money. Of course being Gashead / Poxfan / Accy - it's hard to be objective... You could of course lose your £10 only for us to fail to win at York ;-) It's true bookies odds are shaped by where money is placed but they are originally set by analysts and algorithms. The same analysts and algorithms that made Leicester second favourites in all but one of their PL games this season as at Feb (can't remember when exactly but I definitely read this somewhere). |
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Post by simonj on Apr 27, 2016 7:47:02 GMT
If we don't beat two sides that have already been relegated, then we only have ourselves to blame. That said, if we don't go up this season, whether through the play offs or automatically, I won't be too disappointed. I felt it was really important to go up last season, this season it would be a bonus. Like that Rex, human nature gives us the desire regardless and then we over react with the disappointments. I am determined I wont get too stressed if we make the playoffs only (imagine saying that in Oct/Nov) and if we go to Wembley I promise myself not to feel like I did v Huddersfield, I will enjoy it and think this club, at last, has its heartbeat back, and I am optimistic about the future regardless.
If we don't go up, better get that season ticket because we will walk the league next season and tickets will be difficult to get.
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Post by bluebeard on Apr 27, 2016 8:11:44 GMT
I like the idea of backing Accy and Oxford to win to make up for the disappointment if we don't gain ground. However, the odds were a bit rubbish and I had a rush of blood to the head. I've actually done a £40 treble on Rovers to win, Accy to lose and Oxford to draw. Come Saturday night, Rovers will be 2nd and I will be £843.75 richer. Hopefully.
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just for karma's sake, but that's probably being greedy, and I'd rather it was a few minutes after 3 next Saturday.
