brizzle
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Post by brizzle on Apr 10, 2016 17:28:24 GMT
Not condoning anything throwing things on pitch (except verbal insults!) but I think the goal cam shows that's conclusive proof NOTHING hit the goalkeeper and he feigned injury like a big girls' blouse! Bloody simulator..
I appreciate you were behind the goal, (as was the goal cam) and so you couldn't see what happened, but your no. 9 punched Smith full in the face...(mouth/nose) to try to get him to drop the ball (it worked!) It was like a rabbit punch, short and sharp. Something was bleeding afterwards too.
If the ref or linesman had seen it, it would have been a straight red, and I suspect he probably would have been had up for bringing the game into disrepute or something like that too, as it was worse than merely a two footed tackle. Have never seen anything like that in 30 years of watching the Cobblers! (ie. a player totally losing it and assaulting another player just to try to get the ball back!!)
Felt I had to correct you as he DEFINITELY wasn't simulating!!! (ask any one of the other 6,500 people who were the side of the incident where we could actually see!!) Can I assume that the BRFC love-in, and Admiration Society is definitely over then?
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Post by davegas on Apr 10, 2016 18:00:29 GMT
I saw the incident very clearly Big nose and the question is- Why did your keeper keep hold of the ball ? There was no blood on the shirt he changed and there was NO punch thrown The referee took away 2 water bottles to the touch line one beloning to your keeper!!! Sorry but you are so wrong
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 10, 2016 18:08:40 GMT
The referee took away 2 water bottles to the touch line one beloning to your keeper!!! Sorry but you are so wrong ....so that means one water bottle found it's way into his vicinity (if one was his water bottle!)..
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Post by dido on Apr 10, 2016 18:50:28 GMT
"...If the ref or linesman had seen it, it would have been a straight red, and I suspect he probably would have been had up for bringing the game into disrepute or something like that too, as it was worse than merely a two footed tackle. Have never seen anything like that in 30 years of watching the Cobblers! (ie. a player totally losing it and assaulting another player just to try to get the ball back!!)..."
Bignose, what's your first sport, netball?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Apr 10, 2016 19:11:12 GMT
John's latest full video, which features footage of the Northamton game and the beam-back: Tell John he is very warmly welcomed to join us here. The more, the merrier.
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 10, 2016 20:44:13 GMT
Not condoning anything throwing things on pitch (except verbal insults!) but I think the goal cam shows that's conclusive proof NOTHING hit the goalkeeper and he feigned injury like a big girls' blouse! Bloody simulator..
I appreciate you were behind the goal, (as was the goal cam) and so you couldn't see what happened, but your no. 9 punched Smith full in the face...(mouth/nose) to try to get him to drop the ball (it worked!) It was like a rabbit punch, short and sharp. Something was bleeding afterwards too.
If the ref or linesman had seen it, it would have been a straight red, and I suspect he probably would have been had up for bringing the game into disrepute or something like that too, as it was worse than merely a two footed tackle. Have never seen anything like that in 30 years of watching the Cobblers! (ie. a player totally losing it and assaulting another player just to try to get the ball back!!)
Felt I had to correct you as he DEFINITELY wasn't simulating!!! (ask any one of the other 6,500 people who were the side of the incident where we could actually see!!) Sorry bignose I thought you were supposed to be bringing some sanity to this forum ! The fan cam quite clearly records and shows there was no punch thrown, what it does clearly show is your goalie doing what all goalie's do including ours is applying 'gamemanship' in trying to prevent our player getting the ball. Our player quite clearly is trying to get the ball off him, for your goalie to try and feign he was hit is laughable, there wasn't any blood either. We were all laughing at his very poor play acting. How do I know this, I was almost stood next to what was going on right behind the goal net and I wasn't jumping around as my knees are shot but my eyes are very good from about three yards away. There was one bottle of coke thrown by someone in our crowd which I roundly condemn and if found the person should be banned for a very long time as there is no place for that type of behaviour. The other bottle was your goalie's water bottle so he must have been thirsty by the end of the game as the ref confiscated that too, which was quite funny really. How could 6,500 Northants 'see it', most of them were too far away as were you so it is better not to fabricate. Just because you want 'to see' something doesn't necessarily mean it happened. In fact if you look at the camera angle from the front of the goal in the match highlights your goalie elbows our player in the neck so in fact it should have been your player sent off not ours who fortunately for your goalie didn't feign anything during the assault. Go and enjoy your well deserved promotion by a very good team for this league but please don't come on here making a fool of yourself making ridiculous claims about an incident the camera clearly records and shows didn't happen, sorry
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Post by Angas on Apr 10, 2016 20:53:43 GMT
The referee took away 2 water bottles to the touch line one beloning to your keeper!!! Sorry but you are so wrong ....so that means one water bottle found it's way into his vicinity (if one was his water bottle!).. You can see it flying over the top of the goal while Ellis is trying to get the ball off the keeper. High and long, nowhere near the keeper. Re the alleged punch - I appreciate we don't have the same viewing angle as Bignose, but all I can see is Ellis trying to get the ball back. Maybe the keeper shouldn't have been so determined to hang onto it - I'd certainly advise him against holding it so close to his face another time while twisting and turning like a madman. It's already been posted on here that he was being spoken to as early as the 31st minute for time wasting, so hardly surprising if we weren't going to give him the chance of doing even more of that and, as the old saying goes, you reap what you sow.
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Post by bignose on Apr 10, 2016 21:09:14 GMT
I saw the incident very clearly Big nose and the question is- Why did your keeper keep hold of the ball ? There was no blood on the shirt he changed and there was NO punch thrown The referee took away 2 water bottles to the touch line one beloning to your keeper!!! Sorry but you are so wrong Dear Mr Davegas
I do appreciate our keeper was just grabbing the ball to waste time, (like they all do...) and I admit he is one of the most handy goalkeepers at time wasting, he does it in every game in the 2nd half when we are winning...I guess he learned his trade well at Leicester!!... so you could say he got his come-uppance, and indeed maybe he will think again in future about trying to waste a few seconds by holding onto the ball like that!!... but.....
....you are 100% wrong about there being no punch thrown, and being a Physicist, unless you had a mirror tied to the end of a pole at least 25-30 metres long which you were suspending directly over the goalmouth, there is physically no way you could have seen it!! (unless of course you were sitting in with the Cobblers fans) It was a very short sharp punch, like a short uppercut, which travelled only about 12 inches from right in front of the goalkeepers chest, right into his mouth/nose. It rocked his head back and the goalkeeper had a look of such total incredulity on his face, it was almost funny!! - He couldn't quite believe what had just happened. (Nor could the majority of the Cobblers fans who saw it either!!)
So how EXACTLY did you see right through Adam Smiths chest to see that punch?! (which you said wasn't thrown anyway!!) Do you have X-ray vision Mr Dave?! Are you actually a character in the latest in the line of Super-hero movies?
It is all water under the bridge, but thousands of people saw what you could not have possibly seen, because of your perspective. I don't blame you for not being able to see through someones' body, but please don't say we haven't seen it, or it never happened, because it did.
You will be saying the holocaust never happened next, because it was behind closed doors and therefore you couldn't see it happen!!?
Good luck in your remaining matches!
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 10, 2016 21:09:53 GMT
....so that means one water bottle found it's way into his vicinity (if one was his water bottle!).. You can see it flying over the top of the goal while Ellis is trying to get the ball off the keeper. High and long, nowhere near the keeper. Re the alleged punch - I appreciate we don't have the same viewing angle as Bignose, but all I can see is Ellis trying to get the ball back. Maybe the keeper shouldn't have been so determined to hang onto it - I'd certainly advise him against holding it so close to his face another time while twisting and turning like a madman. It's already been posted on here that he was being spoken to as early as the 31st minute for time wasting, so hardly surprising if we weren't going to give him the chance of doing even more of that and, as the old saying goes, you reap what you sow. There is no way bignose would have seen anything clearly other than a scuffle between Ellis and the goalie he would have been at least 200 yards away up in the stands but I could being about three yards away looking at what was going on. Ellis was trying to get the ball away from the goalie who was holding it high up near his face with his arms, all that Ellis did was snatch at his hands to get him to release the ball which he did, the Fan cam clearly shows that incident. The goalie then tried to get Ellis into trouble by simulating he had been hit in the eye. Ellis, who can be an idiot at times and gets involved in arguments with players he shouldn't on this occasion actually didn't do anything wrong at all.
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 10, 2016 21:17:58 GMT
I saw the incident very clearly Big nose and the question is- Why did your keeper keep hold of the ball ? There was no blood on the shirt he changed and there was NO punch thrown The referee took away 2 water bottles to the touch line one beloning to your keeper!!! Sorry but you are so wrong Dear Mr Davegas
I do appreciate our keeper was just grabbing the ball to waste time, (like they all do...) and I admit he is one of the most handy goalkeepers at time wasting, he does it in every game in the 2nd half when we are winning...I guess he learned his trade well at Leicester!!... so you could say he got his come-uppance, and indeed maybe he will think again in future about trying to waste a few seconds by holding onto the ball like that!!... but.....
....you are 100% wrong about there being no punch thrown, and being a Physicist, unless you had a mirror tied to the end of a pole at least 25-30 metres long which you were suspending directly over the goalmouth, there is physically no way you could have seen it!! (unless of course you were sitting in with the Cobblers fans) It was a very short sharp punch, like a short uppercut, which travelled only about 12 inches from right in front of the goalkeepers chest, right into his mouth/nose. It rocked his head back and the goalkeeper had a look of such total incredulity on his face, it was almost funny!! - He couldn't quite believe what had just happened. (Nor could the majority of the Cobblers fans who saw it either!!)
So how EXACTLY did you see right through Adam Smiths chest to see that punch?! (which you said wasn't thrown anyway!!) Do you have X-ray vision Mr Dave?! Are you actually a character in the latest in the line of Super-hero movies?
It is all water under the bridge, but thousands of people saw what you could not have possibly seen, because of your perspective. I don't blame you for not being able to see through someones' body, but please don't say we haven't seen it, or it never happened, because it did.
You will be saying the holocaust never happened next, because it was behind closed doors and therefore you couldn't see it happen!!?
Good luck in your remaining matches!
I'd give up now mate, you are making yourself an absolute laughing stock on here making such an hilarious statement. The Fan cam behind the goal shows no punch, the match camera from the front of the goal shows no punch, you are either deluded or a Bristol C*ty supporter which actually is the same thing. As I've said before go and enjoy your well deserved promotion and let it be.
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Post by Angas on Apr 10, 2016 21:59:26 GMT
I don't know, watching it again, click clicking really quickly to pause it all the way through, there is a point where Ellis' arm goes up - behind the ball from our angle, so we can't see where it lands. It's immediately before the keeper lowers the ball and puts his glove up to his face so it's possible there was contact.
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Post by bignose on Apr 10, 2016 22:09:06 GMT
Hey Bignose, what's the latest with paying back the 10 million quid of local taxpayers' money? Allegedly..... Well the council £10.25 million loan was made to the Northampton ex-chairman, (let's call him "Bungle") who then did nothing very much with the money except hand over £8 million of it to a 2 man band company (won't print their names as they don't sound like people you want to mess with!! lets call them A & B....) who reportedly had little experience of project managing such a development. (Indeed it transpired as it was all coming out, that one of these 2 guys already had 42 companies wound up in his name at the same residential address in Hertfordshire!!!?? , which makes you question why did "Bungle" hand over this money to such people without doing the usual financial checks which cost £20-£30 or so?!?! (or maybe he did? or maybe it was all pre-planned?!) It was reported that A +B gave over £2 million of the money back to "Bungle" and his father as some sort of "fee". (Bungle's father it was reported recently was regularly in and out of Private Eye magazine in the 1980's for some very dodgy stock market dealings and striking deals with HMRC to grass up his pals when they tracked him down in Italy)
The design of the stand went from being a £10.25 million huge stand with conference centre, and hotel at the back, to the £3 million abortion that you saw on Saturday, which barely adds 200 seats to the perfectly functional stand we had there already, before Bungle demolished the stand about 2 years ago. So very little, if any of that council loan money went into developing our ground, and the company (Buckinghams) who had started the work did not get paid. (We are using the same company now to finish the stand by the way, and they have built lots of fine stands over the country!!)
Bungle also reportedly took A + B to court and there was some kind of settlement (£800,000 was rumoured, but nobody was allowed to say anything about the case as there was a non-disclosure agreement) .....allegedly....
Bungle had reportedly put £6-7 million of his own money into the club over the last 12-14 years, (but he never once published how much the club received for any of a string of 8-9 very good players we sold on during those years) so nobody really knows exactly what went on, but the council loan money disappeared when it was given to A + B (the 2 man band company) and we don't know what happened to the £2 million "fee" which was given back to Bungle (and his father)
Bungle basically stopped paying everyone at the club around the start of September this season, and nobody got paid for 2-3 months, and nobody even knew where Bungle had gone as he didn't show up at Northampton any more.
C Wilder (our manager) gave an impassioned Churchillian speech on Youtube after we won 2-1 at Notts County last November (well worth a watch!) imploring and openly haranguing Bungle to sell the club as we were due in court to be wound up in about 1 weeks time over a £166,000 unpaid tax bill, and Chris Wilder had got his old ex-Oxford chairman pal (Kelvin Thomas) to try to buy the club (for £1!!!) to save it, but Bungle was stalling (it seemed like Bungle was just trying to get us liquidated) The speech worked because 2 days later, Bungle sold the club to our new chairman. Our new chairman had spent weeks and weeks thrashing out a deal with Northampton council that the council should take back some of the land around the stadium (to sell for development to recoup part of the money, and try to recover the rest from the .....allegedly....dodgy characters involved, namely Bungle and A + B) so when our new chairman took over the club, the £10.25 million debt was written off as far as the club goes. Our new chairman and his backers stated they would inject £1 million into the club for immediate usage (running costs, loan players to improve team, unpaid wages etc) and another £3 million to finish the stand and boxes etc.
.....allegedly....The Police have a team of around 20 people looking into the "missing funds" and it is anyone's guess as to whether they will find Bungle or Mr A or Mr B individually or jointly responsible for the missing amounts, or indeed none of those people at all..!! .....allegedly.... But surely £10.25 million cant just disappear into thin air?!?
Nobody can also explain how the council .....allegedly....kept loaning chunks of this money every 2 months or so, when clearly nothing seemed to be going on at the building site regarding the redevelopment of the ground, and the new stand. (Usually there would be inspections and way-points where further chunks of money are handed over when certain milestones have been reached in a large project like this, but it appears .....allegedly....that the council just kept handing over the money when nothing was getting built.) It was reported .....allegedly....that the council even continued handing over chunks of the loan money, even after Bungle had stopped making repayments on the interest on the chunks of money he had already received!!!?? Conspiracy theories abound, as you can imagine!!
The upshot is the club has no debt whatsoever now, and a forward thinking chairman who seems to know what he is doing, and who has a great working relationship with the manager. It was reported that the chairman and his backers are probably only investing for up to 5 years, maybe hoping to sell the club for a profit if they can get it up a couple of divisions? But hey, we still have a club to support, and that didn't look likely last autumn.....
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Post by The Concept on Apr 10, 2016 22:17:40 GMT
I agree with Ann.
It's inconclusive, but I don't think you can rule out contact, and, in turn, can't accuse the goalkeeper of feigning.
If you pause and play the video, after the initial wrestle they break apart momentarily, then you see the bottle fly past, then Ellis goes to try and get the ball again.
You can see Elli's right arm move forward, and the goalkeeper's head move backwards.
What I see doesn't categorically prove Ellis made contact, but I can't rule it out.
My own feeling is that Ellis (again, a hunch, not 100% proof) went for the ball and it was the ball that hit Smith in the face - a bash to the conk can be quite painful.
I can only conclude, from the evidence on offer, your honour ... 1/ NTFC can't claim a punch was definitely aimed and landed. 2/ BRFC can't claim the goalkeeper was definitely feigning injury.
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Post by bignose on Apr 10, 2016 22:37:06 GMT
Dear Mr Davegas
I do appreciate our keeper was just grabbing the ball to waste time, (like they all do...) and I admit he is one of the most handy goalkeepers at time wasting, he does it in every game in the 2nd half when we are winning...I guess he learned his trade well at Leicester!!... so you could say he got his come-uppance, and indeed maybe he will think again in future about trying to waste a few seconds by holding onto the ball like that!!... but.....
....you are 100% wrong about there being no punch thrown, and being a Physicist, unless you had a mirror tied to the end of a pole at least 25-30 metres long which you were suspending directly over the goalmouth, there is physically no way you could have seen it!! (unless of course you were sitting in with the Cobblers fans) It was a very short sharp punch, like a short uppercut, which travelled only about 12 inches from right in front of the goalkeepers chest, right into his mouth/nose. It rocked his head back and the goalkeeper had a look of such total incredulity on his face, it was almost funny!! - He couldn't quite believe what had just happened. (Nor could the majority of the Cobblers fans who saw it either!!)
So how EXACTLY did you see right through Adam Smiths chest to see that punch?! (which you said wasn't thrown anyway!!) Do you have X-ray vision Mr Dave?! Are you actually a character in the latest in the line of Super-hero movies?
It is all water under the bridge, but thousands of people saw what you could not have possibly seen, because of your perspective. I don't blame you for not being able to see through someones' body, but please don't say we haven't seen it, or it never happened, because it did.
You will be saying the holocaust never happened next, because it was behind closed doors and therefore you couldn't see it happen!!?
Good luck in your remaining matches!
I'd give up now mate, you are making yourself an absolute laughing stock on here making such an hilarious statement. The Fan cam behind the goal shows no punch, the match camera from the front of the goal shows no punch, you are either deluded or a Bristol C*ty supporter which actually is the same thing. As I've said before go and enjoy your well deserved promotion and let it be. Mr Bridgeman I have added your humourous (and 100% incorrect) statement above to our own humble forum for further discussion!! Surely we can't all be wrong on there?!?" Why do you think lots of the Northampton fans saw a punch with their own eyes and several have been discussing it on our forum if it didn't exist?! The Fan cam behind the goal wouldn't have clearly shown the punch, as the goalkeepers body and head was in the way, although it looks more like a slap or a flap from the angle of the goalcam because it is looking up from the floor and over the goalie's shoulder. I have yet to see any highlights (on sky or youtube) where the camera doesn't pan away to follow Matty Taylor as he runs away to celebrate scoring, so on the highlights you don't get to see any of the incident whatsoever... (I suspect you are on a wind up, as you can see exactly the same highlights that I can, so why mention that the match camera shows no punch, when you can see for yourself that it is pointing nowhere near the goal at the crucial moment, but towards the corner where the goalscorer Matty Taylor was running away celebrating!?!?)
As I said, it is all water under the bridge, and it wouldn't matter a damn if your number 9 had pulled down our goalies shorts and spanked him for all I care, it is just annoying when someone ignorant (and in that I mean because of your viewing perspective, not in a rude way..) tells you that you didn't see something with your own eyes.....and when hundreds (if not thousands) of Northampton fans saw the same thing exactly as I saw it, because we had the best angle. (unrestricted)
I was approx. 40 yards away from the incident, as I paced it out earlier. I had a perfect view. Its like the film "Vantage Point" depending on where you were, you would have seen something completely different!!
Anyway, good luck and hope to be annoying each other next season too!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2016 23:08:01 GMT
Hey Bignose, what's the latest with paying back the 10 million quid of local taxpayers' money? Allegedly..... Well the council £10.25 million loan was made to the Northampton ex-chairman, (let's call him "Bungle") who then did nothing very much with the money except hand over £8 million of it to a 2 man band company (won't print their names as they don't sound like people you want to mess with!! lets call them A & B....) who reportedly had little experience of project managing such a development. (Indeed it transpired as it was all coming out, that one of these 2 guys already had 42 companies wound up in his name at the same residential address in Hertfordshire!!!?? , which makes you question why did "Bungle" hand over this money to such people without doing the usual financial checks which cost £20-£30 or so?!?! (or maybe he did? or maybe it was all pre-planned?!) It was reported that A +B gave over £2 million of the money back to "Bungle" and his father as some sort of "fee". (Bungle's father it was reported recently was regularly in and out of Private Eye magazine in the 1980's for some very dodgy stock market dealings and striking deals with HMRC to grass up his pals when they tracked him down in Italy)
The design of the stand went from being a £10.25 million huge stand with conference centre, and hotel at the back, to the £3 million abortion that you saw on Saturday, which barely adds 200 seats to the perfectly functional stand we had there already, before Bungle demolished the stand about 2 years ago. So very little, if any of that council loan money went into developing our ground, and the company (Buckinghams) who had started the work did not get paid. (We are using the same company now to finish the stand by the way, and they have built lots of fine stands over the country!!)
Bungle also reportedly took A + B to court and there was some kind of settlement (£800,000 was rumoured, but nobody was allowed to say anything about the case as there was a non-disclosure agreement) .....allegedly....
Bungle had reportedly put £6-7 million of his own money into the club over the last 12-14 years, (but he never once published how much the club received for any of a string of 8-9 very good players we sold on during those years) so nobody really knows exactly what went on, but the council loan money disappeared when it was given to A + B (the 2 man band company) and we don't know what happened to the £2 million "fee" which was given back to Bungle (and his father)
Bungle basically stopped paying everyone at the club around the start of September this season, and nobody got paid for 2-3 months, and nobody even knew where Bungle had gone as he didn't show up at Northampton any more.
C Wilder (our manager) gave an impassioned Churchillian speech on Youtube after we won 2-1 at Notts County last November (well worth a watch!) imploring and openly haranguing Bungle to sell the club as we were due in court to be wound up in about 1 weeks time over a £166,000 unpaid tax bill, and Chris Wilder had got his old ex-Oxford chairman pal (Kelvin Thomas) to try to buy the club (for £1!!!) to save it, but Bungle was stalling (it seemed like Bungle was just trying to get us liquidated) The speech worked because 2 days later, Bungle sold the club to our new chairman. Our new chairman had spent weeks and weeks thrashing out a deal with Northampton council that the council should take back some of the land around the stadium (to sell for development to recoup part of the money, and try to recover the rest from the .....allegedly....dodgy characters involved, namely Bungle and A + B) so when our new chairman took over the club, the £10.25 million debt was written off as far as the club goes. Our new chairman and his backers stated they would inject £1 million into the club for immediate usage (running costs, loan players to improve team, unpaid wages etc) and another £3 million to finish the stand and boxes etc.
.....allegedly....The Police have a team of around 20 people looking into the "missing funds" and it is anyone's guess as to whether they will find Bungle or Mr A or Mr B individually or jointly responsible for the missing amounts, or indeed none of those people at all..!! .....allegedly.... But surely £10.25 million cant just disappear into thin air?!?
Nobody can also explain how the council .....allegedly....kept loaning chunks of this money every 2 months or so, when clearly nothing seemed to be going on at the building site regarding the redevelopment of the ground, and the new stand. (Usually there would be inspections and way-points where further chunks of money are handed over when certain milestones have been reached in a large project like this, but it appears .....allegedly....that the council just kept handing over the money when nothing was getting built.) It was reported .....allegedly....that the council even continued handing over chunks of the loan money, even after Bungle had stopped making repayments on the interest on the chunks of money he had already received!!!?? Conspiracy theories abound, as you can imagine!!
The upshot is the club has no debt whatsoever now, and a forward thinking chairman who seems to know what he is doing, and who has a great working relationship with the manager. It was reported that the chairman and his backers are probably only investing for up to 5 years, maybe hoping to sell the club for a profit if they can get it up a couple of divisions? But hey, we still have a club to support, and that didn't look likely last autumn.....
The BBC don't seem to be as shy as you about naming names and giving numbers Here you go, www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-35403724The council already owned the land that they took back though didn't they, that was just local politicians spinning things to save their own skins as far as I can tell. So let's get this straight, please feel free to correct as required, 10 million quid was given to the FC, it disappeared (that side of things will all come out in the wash, it always does) the debt to the Council was repaid using land already owned by the Council and you avoided being wound up or going into administration?
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Post by bignose on Apr 10, 2016 23:11:26 GMT
Dear Angas and The Concept, Many thanks for your reasoned responses, much appreciated! And in true Judge Rinder stylie....!! I have to agree with you, if it was in court, I would have no conclusive video evidence that the number 9's hand/fist rammed right into the goalies mouth/nose. And I certainly wouldn't try to say that he meant it either, as in mitigation he might have just been trying to punch the ball out of the (admittedly stupid) goalies hands to get it back. (That would be my defence if I was the rovers player, anyway!! ) However, I would have the goalies' testimony that he was punched in the face, and I would have several hundred other Cobblers fans testimonies too, as we had an unrestricted, clear view of the incident. If it was a car crash, that would be enough to apportion blame and for the insurance company to have to cough up!! The only person in defence would be the rovers no. 9, because none of the Rovers fans could have seen because their view was restricted by the goalies body. Best Wishes. We'll meet again, don't know where, don't know when....but I know we'll meet again some sunny day!!!
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Post by alloutofgas on Apr 10, 2016 23:13:37 GMT
I am absolutely staggered that someone has compared a disputed incident at a fourth tier football match with 'holocaust denial'. Ffs, get a grip you bell end.
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 10, 2016 23:21:45 GMT
I'd give up now mate, you are making yourself an absolute laughing stock on here making such an hilarious statement. The Fan cam behind the goal shows no punch, the match camera from the front of the goal shows no punch, you are either deluded or a Bristol C*ty supporter which actually is the same thing. As I've said before go and enjoy your well deserved promotion and let it be. Mr Bridgeman I have added your humourous (and 100% incorrect) statement above to our own humble forum for further discussion!! Surely we can't all be wrong on there?!?" Why do you think lots of the Northampton fans saw a punch with their own eyes and several have been discussing it on our forum if it didn't exist?! The Fan cam behind the goal wouldn't have clearly shown the punch, as the goalkeepers body and head was in the way, although it looks more like a slap or a flap from the angle of the goalcam because it is looking up from the floor and over the goalie's shoulder. I have yet to see any highlights (on sky or youtube) where the camera doesn't pan away to follow Matty Taylor as he runs away to celebrate scoring, so on the highlights you don't get to see any of the incident whatsoever... (I suspect you are on a wind up, as you can see exactly the same highlights that I can, so why mention that the match camera shows no punch, when you can see for yourself that it is pointing nowhere near the goal at the crucial moment, but towards the corner where the goalscorer Matty Taylor was running away celebrating!?!?)
As I said, it is all water under the bridge, and it wouldn't matter a damn if your number 9 had pulled down our goalies shorts and spanked him for all I care, it is just annoying when someone ignorant (and in that I mean because of your viewing perspective, not in a rude way..) tells you that you didn't see something with your own eyes.....and when hundreds (if not thousands) of Northampton fans saw the same thing exactly as I saw it, because we had the best angle. (unrestricted)
I was approx. 40 yards away from the incident, as I paced it out earlier. I had a perfect view. Its like the film "Vantage Point" depending on where you were, you would have seen something completely different!!
Anyway, good luck and hope to be annoying each other next season too!!
Erm.....because they're all Cobbler's fans ?
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Bridgeman
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Post by Bridgeman on Apr 10, 2016 23:28:30 GMT
I am absolutely staggered that someone has compared a disputed incident at a fourth tier football match with 'holocaust denial'. Ffs, get a grip you bell end.I think promotion to Division three in the football league has scrambled his brain or something. I remember them being in the old First Division, I could understand their excitement if they had achieved that again.
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Post by severnbeachline on Apr 10, 2016 23:50:44 GMT
I saw the incident very clearly Big nose and the question is- Why did your keeper keep hold of the ball ? There was no blood on the shirt he changed and there was NO punch thrown The referee took away 2 water bottles to the touch line one beloning to your keeper!!! Sorry but you are so wrong
You will be saying the holocaust never happened next, because it was behind closed doors and therefore you couldn't see it happen!!? Stop.
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