jozer
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Post by jozer on Jul 5, 2014 7:21:03 GMT
I was at the Mem yesterday and spoke to BB, I didnt ask him anything about the BOD because I knew he wouldnt tell me anything but he seemed happy eough and we had a laugh and a joke. All this gloom and doom about BRFC going bust seems a little unfounded with no FACTS to support the rumour. I paid for my car parking spot for next season, if BRFC were going bust then I am sure that taking my money knowing the were going bust, I would suspect would be illegal. BB has a knack of coming out well from clubs failing.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Jul 5, 2014 7:28:18 GMT
In an information vacuum, speculation on here seems to spiral out of control. I'd be pretty disappointed if the first board meeting since everyone got back from holiday did not last 6 hours. There is plenty to try to get right.
But, as a result of the speculation, our 2 supporters club board members need to keep the fans informed. All we seem to get is a twitter feed from BSS saying "Nick will let you know in time" - well that is not good enough.
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jozer
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Post by jozer on Jul 5, 2014 7:35:00 GMT
Trouble is for the people who elect and re-elect the Directors Fans it is good enough. We should accept that those clowns are in place for the forseeable. The fact that they have got away with performing no useful function this long suggests that the SC will continue to support them and the current 'expectations' of them.
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Post by chelt_gas on Jul 5, 2014 8:41:37 GMT
Trouble is for the people who elect and re-elect the Directors Fans it is good enough. We should accept that those clowns are in place for the forseeable. The fact that they have got away with performing no useful function this long suggests that the SC will continue to support them and the current 'expectations' of them. The fact that the bristol media also see these jobsworths as irrelevant if seeking a quote says it all. Having an independent, neutral spokes group with unity behind th creates more power than the elected Churchill dogs that perform the function of a proverbial doorstop in the boardroom. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Bridgeman
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Post by Bridgeman on Jul 5, 2014 8:53:41 GMT
Quite why people follow him on twitter is beyond me particulary if they know he is a wind up merchant, a load of hot air followed by other people who express hot air just means all we are discussing is....hot air, just when will people learn
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Jul 5, 2014 9:03:36 GMT
Geoff quoted this morning via Twitter
"It is always satisfying to see people in their "True Colours" and realise you were not wrong about them". No other explanation. What could he mean? My conspiracy theory, based purely on reasonable hunch, is that there is an on-going Boardroom rift over future funding of the club. This has Eastville / Twerton @ 1985 - Geoff on a white charger written all over it. Really. Oh dear. With respect to GD, that is the sort of cryptic rubbish only teenagers and mid-life crisis adults post on Facebook etc. imo UTG
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Bridgeman
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Post by Bridgeman on Jul 5, 2014 9:13:01 GMT
Geoff quoted this morning via Twitter
"It is always satisfying to see people in their "True Colours" and realise you were not wrong about them". No other explanation. What could he mean? My conspiracy theory, based purely on reasonable hunch, is that there is an on-going Boardroom rift over future funding of the club. This has Eastville / Twerton @ 1985 - Geoff on a white charger written all over it. Really. Oh dear. With respect to GD, that is the sort of cryptic rubbish only teenagers and mid-life crisis adults post on Facebook etc. imo UTG He must be loving this, all us lot continually raising his profile on twitter, no wonder he continues to post the way he does, it's all a load of hot air I tell thee but quite why I'm wasting my time commenting on this I don't really know as I'm not on twitter anyway, surely I can't have enough to do I reckon ......doh !
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Post by Northville Blue on Jul 5, 2014 9:13:23 GMT
I was at the Mem yesterday and spoke to BB, I didnt ask him anything about the BOD because I knew he wouldnt tell me anything but he seemed happy eough and we had a laugh and a joke. All this gloom and doom about BRFC going bust seems a little unfounded with no FACTS to support the rumour. I paid for my car parking spot for next season, if BRFC were going bust then I am sure that taking my money knowing the were going bust, I would suspect would be illegal. Who has said Rovers are going bust? That's hardly likely with the debt owed to the directors and the stadium owned by themselves.
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Post by chelt_gas on Jul 5, 2014 9:42:20 GMT
I was at the Mem yesterday and spoke to BB, I didnt ask him anything about the BOD because I knew he wouldnt tell me anything but he seemed happy eough and we had a laugh and a joke. All this gloom and doom about BRFC going bust seems a little unfounded with no FACTS to support the rumour. I paid for my car parking spot for next season, if BRFC were going bust then I am sure that taking my money knowing the were going bust, I would suspect would be illegal. Who has said Rovers are going bust? That's hardly likely with the debt owed to the directors and the stadium owned by themselves. The fact the club has made no comment whether or not there is an issue just shows what appalling businessman and general people they are. I wonder whether any of them would pass the fit and proper person test. This must feel like being in an arranged marriage with someone you can't stand, the only way to break this cycle is something drastic...so it's a tour to Johannesburg with the directors??? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Northville Blue on Jul 5, 2014 10:29:52 GMT
Who has said Rovers are going bust? That's hardly likely with the debt owed to the directors and the stadium owned by themselves. The fact the club has made no comment whether or not there is an issue just shows what appalling businessman and general people they are. I wonder whether any of them would pass the fit and proper person test. This must feel like being in an arranged marriage with someone you can't stand, the only way to break this cycle is something drastic...so it's a tour to Johannesburg with the directors??? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That's a different issue to the business going bust. As has often been said, football is a results business and the record of these owners is on record for all to see even if one of them is apparently trying to lay the blame on his colleagues. If the current owners aren't willing to further fund their mistakes I could see a scenario where the football club company, which is currently a subsidiary, was sold and the current owners retained BRFC 1883 ltd and the stadium to secure their loans. The alternative is carry on as before.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 10:37:57 GMT
The fact the club has made no comment whether or not there is an issue just shows what appalling businessman and general people they are. I wonder whether any of them would pass the fit and proper person test. This must feel like being in an arranged marriage with someone you can't stand, the only way to break this cycle is something drastic...so it's a tour to Johannesburg with the directors??? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That's a different issue to the business going bust. As has often been said, football is a results business and the record of these owners is on record for all to see even if one of them is apparently trying to lay the blame on his colleagues. If the current owners aren't willing to further fund their mistakes I could see a scenario where the football club company, which is currently a subsidiary, was sold and the current owners retained BRFC 1883 ltd and the stadium to secure their loans. The alternative is carry on as before. Genuine Question Kevin based on your experience with the club, do you feel we have a "Salisbury City" scenario on our hands ?? i will fully understand if you say No comment !
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Post by Northville Blue on Jul 5, 2014 10:40:54 GMT
That's a different issue to the business going bust. As has often been said, football is a results business and the record of these owners is on record for all to see even if one of them is apparently trying to lay the blame on his colleagues. If the current owners aren't willing to further fund their mistakes I could see a scenario where the football club company, which is currently a subsidiary, was sold and the current owners retained BRFC 1883 ltd and the stadium to secure their loans. The alternative is carry on as before. Genuine Question Kevin based on your experience with the club, do you feel we have a "Salisbury City" scenario on our hands ?? i will fully understand if you say No comment ! Why wouldn't I comment? No I don't think that the board would sell out to an unknown who ultimately didn't have two pennies to scratch his arse with. They would want to make sure that if they did sell the football club then the tenants were able to pay the rent.
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Post by chelt_gas on Jul 5, 2014 10:46:15 GMT
The fact the club has made no comment whether or not there is an issue just shows what appalling businessman and general people they are. I wonder whether any of them would pass the fit and proper person test. This must feel like being in an arranged marriage with someone you can't stand, the only way to break this cycle is something drastic...so it's a tour to Johannesburg with the directors??? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That's a different issue to the business going bust. As has often been said, football is a results business and the record of these owners is on record for all to see even if one of them is apparently trying to lay the blame on his colleagues. If the current owners aren't willing to further fund their mistakes I could see a scenario where the football club company, which is currently a subsidiary, was sold and the current owners retained BRFC 1883 ltd and the stadium to secure their loans. The alternative is carry on as before. When a gambler loses he has to face the decision to walk away or bet more in the hope of recovery. This is often delusional. However, as dunford and bandits can keep betting with recoverable credit it's a gamblers paradise. They're like the coked up casino owner gambling at their own roulette wheel. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by Big Dave on Jul 5, 2014 10:48:05 GMT
As a hunch we have no money at all, we owe various directors £7m and the stadium is going down the swanny. Most directors thought they would get there money back with the mem sale. Here is the choice, go under and lose miillions or invest even more and most likely lose that too. No wonder they are long meetings as Higgs and Dunford have invested millions. There is not much at stake for the likes of King, Ware and Jelf. I too understand Higgs and Dunford are on opposing sides. Can only speculate thats its as Geoff blames him for his families tarnished reputation following relegation out the league. Whilst I can understand where you're coming from, and I hate to compare us to many other clubs that I've seen fail financially over recent years, 'we' do not owe the directors anything. They invested the money, they run the club, they have lost the money. Whilst it's technically 'owed' to them, they know the only way to get it back is through success as a club or by selling out (based on likely future success)...
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Post by lavalamp on Jul 5, 2014 12:14:23 GMT
totend reporting this on the unofficialbrfc site:-
Apparently NH has written to the Presidents Club saying they will have to defer the dividend due on their preference shares.
Makes you wonder just what poo we are really in. But it also puts into perspective about all the moaning Minnie's demanding reductions in cost of this and that. Be careful what you wish for.
The only people not in danger of losing money on this are the shareholders. And guess who they are, their loans are covered by the value of the Mem whoever it ends up getting sold too.
It is also quite apparent that there are now two factions within the boardroom. It does not bode well. There were quite abrupt exchanges in the boardroom the other day.
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Jul 5, 2014 12:27:51 GMT
totend reporting this on the unofficialbrfc site:- Apparently NH has written to the Presidents Club saying they will have to defer the dividend due on their preference shares. Can anyone explain what this means? Do the board owe the PC money?
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Post by brizzle on Jul 5, 2014 12:33:28 GMT
totend reporting this on the unofficialbrfc site:- Apparently NH has written to the Presidents Club saying they will have to defer the dividend due on their preference shares. Makes you wonder just what poo we are really in. But it also puts into perspective about all the moaning Minnie's demanding reductions in cost of this and that. Be careful what you wish for. The only people not in danger of losing money on this are the shareholders. And guess who they are, their loans are covered by the value of the Mem whoever it ends up getting sold too. It is also quite apparent that there are now two factions within the boardroom. It does not bode well. There were quite abrupt exchanges in the boardroom the other day.With all due respect to you lavalamp, how do you know that there were '' quite abrupt exchanges in the boardroom the other day?'' And if you do know for certain that there were, would you care to elaborate if it's at all possible for you to do so? I'm posting this as a serious question, and not a wind-up.
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Post by Thatslife on Jul 5, 2014 12:34:35 GMT
That's a different issue to the business going bust. As has often been said, football is a results business and the record of these owners is on record for all to see even if one of them is apparently trying to lay the blame on his colleagues. If the current owners aren't willing to further fund their mistakes I could see a scenario where the football club company, which is currently a subsidiary, was sold and the current owners retained BRFC 1883 ltd and the stadium to secure their loans. The alternative is carry on as before. When a gambler loses he has to face the decision to walk away or bet more in the hope of recovery. This is often delusional. However, as dunford and bandits can keep betting with recoverable credit it's a gamblers paradise. They're like the coked up casino owner gambling at their own roulette wheel. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk A little respect please, it's Mr Dunford and even if you dont repect the man then at least respect the fact that his family kept the club in business for many years.
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Post by basel on Jul 5, 2014 12:44:35 GMT
When a gambler loses he has to face the decision to walk away or bet more in the hope of recovery. This is often delusional. However, as dunford and bandits can keep betting with recoverable credit it's a gamblers paradise. They're like the coked up casino owner gambling at their own roulette wheel. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk A little respect please, it's Mr Dunford and even if you dont repect the man then at least respect the fact that his family kept the club in business for many years. Geoff Dunford is no doubt more than welcome to come on this biggest Bristol Rovers Fans Forum and speak for himself. As is Brian Seymour Smith and the rest of em.
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Post by gassedup on Jul 5, 2014 12:46:04 GMT
totend reporting this on the unofficialbrfc site:- Apparently NH has written to the Presidents Club saying they will have to defer the dividend due on their preference shares. Makes you wonder just what poo we are really in. But it also puts into perspective about all the moaning Minnie's demanding reductions in cost of this and that. Be careful what you wish for. The only people not in danger of losing money on this are the shareholders. And guess who they are, their loans are covered by the value of the Mem whoever it ends up getting sold too. It is also quite apparent that there are now two factions within the boardroom. It does not bode well. There were quite abrupt exchanges in the boardroom the other day.With all due respect to you lavalamp, how do you know that there were '' quite abrupt exchanges in the boardroom the other day?'' And if you do know for certain that there were, would you care to elaborate if it's at all possible for you to do so? I'm posting this as a serious question, and not a wind-up. He's quoting Toteend.
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