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Post by chippenhamgas on Jan 5, 2016 18:33:31 GMT
Check it out, you will find that I am right. If you are right the official capacity clearly isn't being used, the other 'sold out' game against forest green last season only had an attendance of 10500 as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 19:48:38 GMT
Check it out, you will find that I am right. If you are right the official capacity clearly isn't being used, the other 'sold out' game against forest green last season only had an attendance of 10500 as well. The full capacity can never be reached for football due to segregation. The council gave permission for the extra seats but without increased capacity. The rugby club wanted and paid for the extra seating to satisfy their demands.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Jan 5, 2016 20:11:22 GMT
If you are right the official capacity clearly isn't being used, the other 'sold out' game against forest green last season only had an attendance of 10500 as well. The full capacity can never be reached for football due to segregation. The council gave permission for the extra seats but without increased capacity. The rugby club wanted and paid for the extra seating to satisfy their demands. There was no segregation against Alfreton as we had the whole of the east terrace, yet the 'sell out' attendance was 1000 less than the supposed capacity.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 20:12:53 GMT
The full capacity can never be reached for football due to segregation. The council gave permission for the extra seats but without increased capacity. The rugby club wanted and paid for the extra seating to satisfy their demands. There was no segregation against Alfreton as we had the whole of the east terrace, yet the 'sell out' attendance was 1000 less than the supposed capacity. Ok, don't believe me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 20:19:55 GMT
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Post by Angas on Jan 5, 2016 22:07:44 GMT
The full capacity can never be reached for football due to segregation. The council gave permission for the extra seats but without increased capacity. The rugby club wanted and paid for the extra seating to satisfy their demands. There was no segregation against Alfreton as we had the whole of the east terrace, yet the 'sell out' attendance was 1000 less than the supposed capacity. Possibly something to do with away support (or lack of)? Forest Green brought 665 fans, Alfreton brought 97. I'm guessing they were allocated more spaces than that. Edit: Or maybe not. "There are 893 tickets that are available for FGR Supporters to purchase. Those include 43 seats and 850 standing places." "Alfreton Town FC’s AWAY match against the Pirates on April 25th is all-ticket for Alfreton Town supporters. Alfreton have been initially allocated 143 South Stand seating tickets."
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Post by Bridgeman on Jan 6, 2016 6:07:28 GMT
Exactly as I remember it, thank you (but nice to see it in writing )
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Post by Bridgeman on Jan 6, 2016 6:11:08 GMT
Who remembers the 12,002 official attendance quoted for WBA FA Cup quarter final game ? Must have had a few jumped over the fence that day
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Post by Peter Parker on Jan 6, 2016 8:00:20 GMT
Who remembers the 12,002 official attendance quoted for WBA FA Cup quarter final game ? Must have had a few jumped over the fence that day but then we had the South-West Tent
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 12:06:54 GMT
Doesn't really bother me at all KP, used to years ago when I was a kid when the winning streaks came then certain faces would magically reappear as they suddenly found they did have enough cash or the boss would let them have saturday off! It certainly isn't something that gets to me, just talking factually, all clubs have fans who only follow winning football, of course I too welcome any extra revenue for the club even if it is being used to pay solicitors. When it comes to sharing conversation in the centenary bar pre match it's always more preferable to chat to someone who at least knows the players names rather than someone wearing a shirt with design windows on it who were missing in action when gates dwindled. Cest la vie anyway plenty more things to be concerned about in life, things that are important. Fair enough fella, I enjoy seeing old faces and characters because I know so many, entire families of gas, that no longer come and for varying reasons but mostly because the entertainment was all but gone and, as you know, we had a team full of mercenaries who didn't really care about the shirt they wore. I have heard the reasons why they don't come many times. I would love it if those people started to come regularly again because I have missed them. Kingswood used to have a huge amount go to games, not like that now but I am seeing more reappear. I now have to go when I am well enough and so, on occasions, I am stuck indoors with the TV, forum and Twitter to get updates. On the subject of the South stand, I remember both Leeds and Southampton being given the entire stand and much of the terracing for away fans. I was pretty upset that a good amount that came for the Orient game, turned to the pub or went home when the turn styles for the West terrace and South stand were shut & we were told they were full. Me and my friend reluctantly went onto the North and could see, very easily, the West terrace was nowhere near full and then later had that confirmed by the group we stand with. I don't know what the hell the club were playing at but it saw a good amount of regulars leave, I won't name any of those I know but it was galling to see regulars not get in. I was reliably told the west was not even snug. Hoping that one day that the club get it right. I think we could have seen 10.3K. Many were still queuing to get into the north at 15:20. We had to go to the ticket office and buy a ticket for the north as they wouldn't open a cash turn style. With respect KP we are referring to two different sets of people here, as you say it is not always understood how the original quote was meant from reading a forum, the Kingswood families you are referring to would be among people I have also known for years, the same people who have a long history of attending games home and away. IMO when you have supported an under performing team with lots of 'potential' its safe to say that over 5/10/15 years some people will get worn down and find better things to do with their Saturdays, and of course personal circumstances do dictate that football however much you love your club could never practically be number one on your priority list if you want to keep a roof over your head and be able to eat. The point I tried to make (not very well) was/is from personal experience knowing people who call themselves Rovers fans when the going is good, growing up in Patchway I knew plenty of kids who went to Wembley, Anfield, Villa Park, then tucked away their Rovers shirt for the rest of the season wear a Liverpool or Man Utd shirt to the pub until the next big day out arrived, ive always referred to such people as second hand Gasheads, a few of these people have now suddenly popped up at the Mem, only a handful that I know personally but with gates shooting up by around 3000 I'm sure there is a tidy figure in their of such fans. We live in a free country (allegedly) and its the choice of individuals of what they do and who they support when, I just find it quite irksome that the Goodnight Eileen brigade can't be around when really needed, I would rather have them now than not but 10 times out of 10 I would always chose to spend time with fans who experienced the real lows as IMO they are the lifeblood of the club, and that was the point I was trying to make. You have me smiling and getting flashbacks now KP of Blackthorn and cooked breakfasts up the High St in Kingswood with Bob D and Co before some very memorable away days, little did I realise back then those days would be the pinnacle of enjoyment following Rovers over the past 30 years. My thoughts are with you and your health issues and hope you are finding peace.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Jan 6, 2016 13:23:50 GMT
Fair enough fella, I enjoy seeing old faces and characters because I know so many, entire families of gas, that no longer come and for varying reasons but mostly because the entertainment was all but gone and, as you know, we had a team full of mercenaries who didn't really care about the shirt they wore. I have heard the reasons why they don't come many times. I would love it if those people started to come regularly again because I have missed them. Kingswood used to have a huge amount go to games, not like that now but I am seeing more reappear. I now have to go when I am well enough and so, on occasions, I am stuck indoors with the TV, forum and Twitter to get updates. On the subject of the South stand, I remember both Leeds and Southampton being given the entire stand and much of the terracing for away fans. I was pretty upset that a good amount that came for the Orient game, turned to the pub or went home when the turn styles for the West terrace and South stand were shut & we were told they were full. Me and my friend reluctantly went onto the North and could see, very easily, the West terrace was nowhere near full and then later had that confirmed by the group we stand with. I don't know what the hell the club were playing at but it saw a good amount of regulars leave, I won't name any of those I know but it was galling to see regulars not get in. I was reliably told the west was not even snug. Hoping that one day that the club get it right. I think we could have seen 10.3K. Many were still queuing to get into the north at 15:20. We had to go to the ticket office and buy a ticket for the north as they wouldn't open a cash turn style. With respect KP we are referring to two different sets of people here, as you say it is not always understood how the original quote was meant from reading a forum, the Kingswood families you are referring to would be among people I have also known for years, the same people who have a long history of attending games home and away. IMO when you have supported an under performing team with lots of 'potential' its safe to say that over 5/10/15 years some people will get worn down and find better things to do with their Saturdays, and of course personal circumstances do dictate that football however much you love your club could never practically be number one on your priority list if you want to keep a roof over your head and be able to eat. The point I tried to make (not very well) was/is from personal experience knowing people who call themselves Rovers fans when the going is good, growing up in Patchway I knew plenty of kids who went to Wembley, Anfield, Villa Park, then tucked away their Rovers shirt for the rest of the season wear a Liverpool or Man Utd shirt to the pub until the next big day out arrived, ive always referred to such people as second hand Gasheads, a few of these people have now suddenly popped up at the Mem, only a handful that I know personally but with gates shooting up by around 3000 I'm sure there is a tidy figure in their of such fans. We live in a free country (allegedly) and its the choice of individuals of what they do and who they support when, I just find it quite irksome that the Goodnight Eileen brigade can't be around when really needed, I would rather have them now than not but 10 times out of 10 I would always chose to spend time with fans who experienced the real lows as IMO they are the lifeblood of the club, and that was the point I was trying to make. You have me smiling and getting flashbacks now KP of Blackthorn and cooked breakfasts up the High St in Kingswood with Bob D and Co before some very memorable away days, little did I realise back then those days would be the pinnacle of enjoyment following Rovers over the past 30 years. My thoughts are with you and your health issues and hope you are finding peace. Yes, it's difficult to take when we are now of an age where we are seeing more of our friends and great Rovers fans, dying. Last year was pretty bad on that front and I guess that will see more of it the older we get. My favourite days were when the Royal archers used to get rammed every Sunday, the Blakes used to get 3-4 vans full of teds and try to take the pub. I was a young un and Bob D, Straff & co were always in amongst it. I have had a few times when I have had sort of flashbacks to that but I think I am one of those who have been worn down by the constant disappointments only to be replaced by new but false hope. Dont get me wrong, I am gas through & through but I now tend to cherry pick games and I won't even use my health as an excuse. Fact is that it's the company that I go with that makes the day for me, if certain people don't go because it's just not as good. I think I am just a grumpy and curmudgeonly man now and I seem to look back, to find the times when I really and deepl looked forward to a match day. We don't seem to have the innovative people now, those who made up new songs and produced fanzines etc but, as I say, it is more that I have just grown older and that I have been worn down by the disappointments that seem to come with being a pirate. Thanks for the kind wishes maye, I am going to need speedy ounce of fight I have if I am to be successful in surviving but that's another story
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Post by kellyoreed on Jan 6, 2016 20:06:11 GMT
We could and have in the past allocated the whole of the tent end as the away stand, which then gives us the opportunity to take up the whole of the terracing in the East stand(Dribuild) for home fans. I guess it will depend if we are able to persuade season ticket holders in the South Stand to relocate if we were to do that. Somewhere in the back of my mind I seem to recall that season ticket holders in the South Stand only get a season ticket on the understanding that they can be relocated in exceptional circumstances.
Perhaps a South Stand season ticket holder can confirm if this is true or not.
I'm a South Stand season ticket holder (only because we get the free child place there - much prefer to be in the Dribuild stand!!), and I wasn't told about that when I bought the ticket. I imagine that would be something they would have to make crystal clear to anyone buying a ticket. I wouldn't be impressed with having to relocate as I would guess there are no spare seats elsewhere, and I can't stand due to a disability. I would be even less impressed with having to do this to accomodate away supporters!
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Post by Bridgeman on Jan 6, 2016 23:25:14 GMT
Somewhere in the back of my mind I seem to recall that season ticket holders in the South Stand only get a season ticket on the understanding that they can be relocated in exceptional circumstances.
Perhaps a South Stand season ticket holder can confirm if this is true or not.
I'm a South Stand season ticket holder (only because we get the free child place there - much prefer to be in the Dribuild stand!!), and I wasn't told about that when I bought the ticket. I imagine that would be something they would have to make crystal clear to anyone buying a ticket. I wouldn't be impressed with having to relocate as I would guess there are no spare seats elsewhere, and I can't stand due to a disability. I would be even less impressed with having to do this to accomodate away supporters! Well it's not happening for the Plymouth game so there's nothing to worry about. Cup games are a different matter as our season tickets don't cover those.
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