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Post by stevek192 on Dec 26, 2015 23:37:14 GMT
Well that was a pretty dire performance overall with neither side really looking good enough to score as goal and what was a ridiculous situation with fans. Why oh why did Wimbledon have it as buy on the day when the total they gave us as tickets was so near the actual capacity for away fans. It really is taking the p**s out of supporters who travelled without tickets as the game was still pay on the day with no real advice as to how many tickets would actually be available on the day and it seems like it was less than 100 that was available.
Anyway we arrived with the news that there were five changes, two enforced by injury and the others tactical and I would assume made because we had two games in three days. I really do feel that our team selected today was more about workrate than talent and the performance overall very much reflected that with very few creative moments and a midfield that lacked creativity from start to finish. Not convinced at all by the selection because IMO we should have been going all out to get the three points today against a team that were pretty well there for the taking and then worrying about Mondays selection between the end of this game and the start of Mondays. From the moment the Wombles went rightly down to ten men I have to say that for the rest of the game it never looked like we had the extra player. We didn't really look like losing but in truth we even less looked like winning. Yet again it was necessary to make three substitutions in the second half due to lack of spark from the first half team but if anything the second half was even worse. If we are going to play wingers then it is important that THEY give us width rather than awaiting the marauding full backs to provide it as that slows the game down so much and enabled our opponents to regroup.
Mildenhall 6 A very good save at a players feet but the flag was already up for offside. Made no real mistakes but for me stays stuck to his line when crosses fly across. Lacks the presence he once had but kept a clean sheet which is all you can ask your keeper to do.
James Clarke 6.5 Played well defensively and did little wrong. Didn't get forward a lot but was that really necessary anyway as we were playing with Bodin in front of him. IMO it was more a case of Bodin not having a good game rather than Clarke and in all honesty his first half performance was far better than Leadbitter's second half one. When are we going to provide a first half performance where all players play well and substitutions made are to give players a run out rather than a necessity.
Tom Lockyer 8 MOM Typical performance from Tom. Won a lot of the ball and never looked in any trouble. One very late tackle by Akinfenwa warranted a booking but Tom just gets up and gets on with it. He really looks a class player as he reads the game so well and his distribution is improving.
McCrystal 7 Played very well on his return to the side. The only reason I could really think that he replaced Parkes was to do with Mildenhall returning and the fact that Macs style of play is more suitable to having a goalkeeper who doesn't pass the ball out confidently to defenders. The defence handled a very difficult opponent in Akinfenwa very well and the fact that we restricted Wimbledon to very few chances really showed that defence and goalkeeper was not where our problems were today and in all honesty is not an area where we have problems very often.
Brown 7 Attacked quite well in the first half but for me he still does not release the ball early enough when he has a winger in front of him. That said he defended well and was rarely troubled
Bodin 5 Poor game overall as there were very few tricks that worked today and did not really give us much width to our game which is essential when you are playing against ten players. Should have scored in the second half with a chance that looked easier to score than miss.
Mansell 6.5 For me this was not Manse's best but kept trying to drive the team forward without really having much creativity to unlock stubborn opponents. I can never see an Ollie Clarke/Mansell combination working as there is no real creativity between them. Cannot fault Manse's defensive qualities in the middle and his leadership but we really need either the three in there with Sinclair or play maybe Easter in there to carry the ball forward. If Sinclair and Lines are going to be out much longer then we are going to need to bring in a central midfield player in the January window.
Clarke 6.5 For me he was better than Mansell in the first half but faded badly in the second half. Tried very hard but lacks the ability to carry the ball forward with confidence and rarely manages to get in a shot these days. IMO a reasonable bench player but it worries me that the best we can put out at the moment is a Mansell/Clarke partnership as this is not going to be good enough to keep us either in or chasing a Play off spot.
Gosling 5 Another who IMO is not consistent enough or strong enough to warrant starting a game and his moments in a game are certainly not often enough. Overall our midfield four did not influence the game enough and when you play against opponents who are more than happy to keep whacking the ball in the air then you need your middle players to bring the ball down and pass it quickly and control the pace of the game.
Taylor 5.5 Why did DC break up the Gaffney partnership that has served us well recently. Totally baffled me really. Classy flick on that sent Harrison away only to be brought down for the sending off and should have scored in the first half but chipped the ball straight into the goalkeepers arms when he should have kept going and at least got his shot on target. This was Mattys worst overall performance and I am not convinced that Taylor/Harrison can ever make a combination at this level.
Harrison 5 Apart from his early turn of pace he was very disappointing for me and I have to be honest and say that I am not convinced that he is good enough to lead our attack or in fact be in the starting 11. I would have been more inclined to have kept him on when Gaffney came on and replaced either Matty or Bodin.
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Leadbitter 4 A very disappointing performance. Seemed all over the place when he came on and his first touch was very poor. He definitely looked a weak link in what was previously a good defensive performance and we looked far more vulnerable down that side in the second half.
Montano 5 No better or worse than Gosling/Bodin and did actually manage to put two good crosses in and a shot just over. At the moment how we play I see little point in having any wingers as both full backs hold on to the ball too long and our attacks are very much laboured events.
Gaffney 5 Only on a short time and did nothing of note.
Referee 6 Not the best and not the worst. Allowed Wimbledon to time waste.
Crowd 7 Good turn out again but the game didn't help the atmosphere.
DC Can't really criticise his dabbling when we draw or lose because he does this when we win as well but it is my opinion that he made too many changes today and it seems clear to me that a midfield partnership of Ollie Clarke and Mansell is never going to be good enough. How he can continually have Easter on the bench when we are so lacking in creative players is a mystery to me in the same way that he trys to play with wingers but then have the full backs failing to bring them into the game quick enough. Only two home victories will make todays game a good point and at present I am not convinced that the side he is picking is good enough to beat either Orient or Luton. I very much hope he proves me wrong on both counts.
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Post by mrbluesky on Dec 27, 2015 1:59:24 GMT
your right another point closer to safety as all promoted teams want to achieve that
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Post by eppinggas on Dec 27, 2015 9:21:52 GMT
As always - thanks for the report Steve. Agree that O Clarke and Mansell in centre-midfield is never going to work. Any ideas as to why Easter wasn't given a go? Particularly with Wimbledon down to 10 men - I would have thought this is exactly what would have suited him. Them going down to 10 men seems to have confused DC and he failed to make the necessary changes...
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Post by Igitur on Dec 27, 2015 9:31:57 GMT
Half way though the season and fifth. Even with teams around us with games in hand that's a good place to be, but if only we had a player or two to run the game, or better team selection and tactics... It was such a poor game that to get to 5th playing like that makes you wonder. Stevek's comments about DC are spot on, but I suppose back up the often used phrase of "still learning".
I bet a lot of the crowd who had played/play football felt they could have held their own in that game.
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Post by DudeLebowski on Dec 27, 2015 9:40:11 GMT
Badly missed Sincs out there. As ever, when he's unavailable. Certainly answers the question to his mid week doubters. Our Midfield isn't anywhere near the same without him.
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Post by Peter Parker on Dec 27, 2015 10:41:21 GMT
I assume Gaffney went to the bench as he hasnt played a lot of football and probably lacks fitness coukd he manage 2 games in 3 days?
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Post by stevek192 on Dec 27, 2015 11:24:00 GMT
Epping Gas , My only thought on not using or rather trying Easter in midfield is that DC's team is based on the principle of hard work and Team spirit rather than on actual quality. I do not blame him for this as in truth quality costs money even at this level and it is clear we have very little of it. Much of football is about personal opinions and how each individual likes to see their team play but at the end of the day these views and different opinions are all drawn together into one by THE RESULT. This business is a results business and whether or not I agree with DC's philosophies (and I agree with a lot of them) at the end of the day it has been a good season so far and we are not far away from being a good side which probably makes it even more frustrating. If Gosling,Bodin,Harrison,Montano,Easter,Lines can reach their potential (None of them have sealed a regular place in the team)and with the addition of 3 quality players which is a big ask and this could be our best season for years and DC could pull off the miracle. UTG
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2015 11:44:30 GMT
Being a competitive side that is good enough to go up in League Two hardly requires a miracle.
He made the changes because he was missing Sinclair (and Lines) and we've been lucky to get as many minutes out of Gaffney as we have so far, and we have another game within 48 hours.
The side he picked should've been good enough to win, but they didn't play well and weren't helped by Wimbledon going into their shell after the red card, similar to how we have struggled against teams that have come for a point and left with three at the Mem this season.
One bit of quality could've won the game yesterday, but we couldn't come up with it. Disappointing, but its still a point away from home.
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Post by a more piratey game on Dec 27, 2015 11:47:43 GMT
As always - thanks for the report Steve. Agree that O Clarke and Mansell in centre-midfield is never going to work. Any ideas as to why Easter wasn't given a go? Particularly with Wimbledon down to 10 men - I would have thought this is exactly what would have suited him. Them going down to 10 men seems to have confused DC and he failed to make the necessary changes... I think DC's approach is almost always to keep 'em out for 60 minutes and then push on. OC and Mans were part of the keep em out is my theory
when going for it, he was looking at the players who he thought could stretch the 10 tired men, rather than the flash of quality which Easter might have brought
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Post by eppinggas on Dec 27, 2015 12:07:28 GMT
It didn't work! OC and LM will never work! Just bought me O's tickets and looking forward to a trip to the Mem tomorrow. Happy Christmas & Happy New Year & UTG.
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Post by Bridgeman on Dec 27, 2015 18:24:18 GMT
I have to say Mildy is looking very unconvincing, there were a number of occasions when he should have come and collected the ball and didn't, with McChrystal looking very pedestrian we were very lucky Akinfenwa was even slower than the  in turning. If only Lockyer could have connected with the ball in the 2nd half we could have come away with the three points as Wimbledon never remotely looked like creating anything other than lumping the ball forward. A good point I thought, from a very physical side who were never going to lie down, and we went up two places to 5th place, what's not to like about that half way through the season ? |
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Post by Alveston Gas on Dec 27, 2015 18:27:51 GMT
We are all a bit harsh I feel -- AFCW are now an established side in L2 and had 7 players in their line up (Fuller, Francomb, Robinson, Osbourne, Akinfenwa, Bulman and Barcham) with in total over 2500 League games to their name, many in the Championship and L1. Thought our inexperience showed at times and really we only had Mildy, Manse and McCrystal who have significant League experience. AFCW managed the game well when they went down to 10, played just one up and got everyone behind the ball & took ages over everything, it was really stop start & as DC said we just never got going. Add that we were missing 2/3 of our better players Linse, Sinclair, Parkes and all in all the result was a satisfactory one if not a great one.
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Post by Alveston Gas on Dec 27, 2015 18:37:51 GMT
It didn't work! OC and LM will never work! Just bought me O's tickets and looking forward to a trip to the Mem tomorrow. Happy Christmas & Happy New Year & UTG. Not sure what other choice DC had really with Sinclair and Lines both out. Easter is not a battling midfielder, Gozzy could play there but would be weaker than Ollie Clarke and Mansell.....sometimes you have to go with what you have. |
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Post by Thatslife on Dec 27, 2015 19:47:39 GMT
Well that was a pretty dire performance overall with neither side really looking good enough to score as goal and what was a ridiculous situation with fans. Why oh why did Wimbledon have it as buy on the day when the total they gave us as tickets was so near the actual capacity for away fans. It really is taking the p**s out of supporters who travelled without tickets as the game was still pay on the day with no real advice as to how many tickets would actually be available on the day and it seems like it was less than 100 that was available. Anyway we arrived with the news that there were five changes, two enforced by injury and the others tactical and I would assume made because we had two games in three days. I really do feel that our team selected today was more about workrate than talent and the performance overall very much reflected that with very few creative moments and a midfield that lacked creativity from start to finish. Not convinced at all by the selection because IMO we should have been going all out to get the three points today against a team that were pretty well there for the taking and then worrying about Mondays selection between the end of this game and the start of Mondays. From the moment the Wombles went rightly down to ten men I have to say that for the rest of the game it never looked like we had the extra player. We didn't really look like losing but in truth we even less looked like winning. Yet again it was necessary to make three substitutions in the second half due to lack of spark from the first half team but if anything the second half was even worse. If we are going to play wingers then it is important that THEY give us width rather than awaiting the marauding full backs to provide it as that slows the game down so much and enabled our opponents to regroup. Mildenhall 6 A very good save at a players feet but the flag was already up for offside. Made no real mistakes but for me stays stuck to his line when crosses fly across. Lacks the presence he once had but kept a clean sheet which is all you can ask your keeper to do. James Clarke 6.5 Played well defensively and did little wrong. Didn't get forward a lot but was that really necessary anyway as we were playing with Bodin in front of him. IMO it was more a case of Bodin not having a good game rather than Clarke and in all honesty his first half performance was far better than Leadbitter's second half one. When are we going to provide a first half performance where all players play well and substitutions made are to give players a run out rather than a necessity. Tom Lockyer 8 MOM Typical performance from Tom. Won a lot of the ball and never looked in any trouble. One very late tackle by Akinfenwa warranted a booking but Tom just gets up and gets on with it. He really looks a class player as he reads the game so well and his distribution is improving. McCrystal 7 Played very well on his return to the side. The only reason I could really think that he replaced Parkes was to do with Mildenhall returning and the fact that Macs style of play is more suitable to having a goalkeeper who doesn't pass the ball out confidently to defenders. The defence handled a very difficult opponent in Akinfenwa very well and the fact that we restricted Wimbledon to very few chances really showed that defence and goalkeeper was not where our problems were today and in all honesty is not an area where we have problems very often. Brown 7 Attacked quite well in the first half but for me he still does not release the ball early enough when he has a winger in front of him. That said he defended well and was rarely troubled Bodin 5 Poor game overall as there were very few tricks that worked today and did not really give us much width to our game which is essential when you are playing against ten players. Should have scored in the second half with a chance that looked easier to score than miss. Mansell 6.5 For me this was not Manse's best but kept trying to drive the team forward without really having much creativity to unlock stubborn opponents. I can never see an Ollie Clarke/Mansell combination working as there is no real creativity between them. Cannot fault Manse's defensive qualities in the middle and his leadership but we really need either the three in there with Sinclair or play maybe Easter in there to carry the ball forward. If Sinclair and Lines are going to be out much longer then we are going to need to bring in a central midfield player in the January window. Clarke 6.5 For me he was better than Mansell in the first half but faded badly in the second half. Tried very hard but lacks the ability to carry the ball forward with confidence and rarely manages to get in a shot these days. IMO a reasonable bench player but it worries me that the best we can put out at the moment is a Mansell/Clarke partnership as this is not going to be good enough to keep us either in or chasing a Play off spot. Gosling 5 Another who IMO is not consistent enough or strong enough to warrant starting a game and his moments in a game are certainly not often enough. Overall our midfield four did not influence the game enough and when you play against opponents who are more than happy to keep whacking the ball in the air then you need your middle players to bring the ball down and pass it quickly and control the pace of the game. Taylor 5.5 Why did DC break up the Gaffney partnership that has served us well recently. Totally baffled me really. Classy flick on that sent Harrison away only to be brought down for the sending off and should have scored in the first half but chipped the ball straight into the goalkeepers arms when he should have kept going and at least got his shot on target. This was Mattys worst overall performance and I am not convinced that Taylor/Harrison can ever make a combination at this level. Harrison 5 Apart from his early turn of pace he was very disappointing for me and I have to be honest and say that I am not convinced that he is good enough to lead our attack or in fact be in the starting 11. I would have been more inclined to have kept him on when Gaffney came on and replaced either Matty or Bodin. Substitutes Leadbitter 4 A very disappointing performance. Seemed all over the place when he came on and his first touch was very poor. He definitely looked a weak link in what was previously a good defensive performance and we looked far more vulnerable down that side in the second half. Montano 5 No better or worse than Gosling/Bodin and did actually manage to put two good crosses in and a shot just over. At the moment how we play I see little point in having any wingers as both full backs hold on to the ball too long and our attacks are very much laboured events. Gaffney 5 Only on a short time and did nothing of note. Referee 6 Not the best and not the worst. Allowed Wimbledon to time waste. Crowd 7 Good turn out again but the game didn't help the atmosphere. DC Can't really criticise his dabbling when we draw or lose because he does this when we win as well but it is my opinion that he made too many changes today and it seems clear to me that a midfield partnership of Ollie Clarke and Mansell is never going to be good enough. How he can continually have Easter on the bench when we are so lacking in creative players is a mystery to me in the same way that he trys to play with wingers but then have the full backs failing to bring them into the game quick enough. 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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2015 20:01:14 GMT
Well that was a pretty dire performance overall with neither side really looking good enough to score as goal and what was a ridiculous situation with fans. Why oh why did Wimbledon have it as buy on the day when the total they gave us as tickets was so near the actual capacity for away fans. It really is taking the p**s out of supporters who travelled without tickets as the game was still pay on the day with no real advice as to how many tickets would actually be available on the day and it seems like it was less than 100 that was available. Anyway we arrived with the news that there were five changes, two enforced by injury and the others tactical and I would assume made because we had two games in three days. I really do feel that our team selected today was more about workrate than talent and the performance overall very much reflected that with very few creative moments and a midfield that lacked creativity from start to finish. Not convinced at all by the selection because IMO we should have been going all out to get the three points today against a team that were pretty well there for the taking and then worrying about Mondays selection between the end of this game and the start of Mondays. From the moment the Wombles went rightly down to ten men I have to say that for the rest of the game it never looked like we had the extra player. We didn't really look like losing but in truth we even less looked like winning. Yet again it was necessary to make three substitutions in the second half due to lack of spark from the first half team but if anything the second half was even worse. If we are going to play wingers then it is important that THEY give us width rather than awaiting the marauding full backs to provide it as that slows the game down so much and enabled our opponents to regroup. Mildenhall 6 A very good save at a players feet but the flag was already up for offside. Made no real mistakes but for me stays stuck to his line when crosses fly across. Lacks the presence he once had but kept a clean sheet which is all you can ask your keeper to do. James Clarke 6.5 Played well defensively and did little wrong. Didn't get forward a lot but was that really necessary anyway as we were playing with Bodin in front of him. IMO it was more a case of Bodin not having a good game rather than Clarke and in all honesty his first half performance was far better than Leadbitter's second half one. When are we going to provide a first half performance where all players play well and substitutions made are to give players a run out rather than a necessity. Tom Lockyer 8 MOM Typical performance from Tom. Won a lot of the ball and never looked in any trouble. One very late tackle by Akinfenwa warranted a booking but Tom just gets up and gets on with it. He really looks a class player as he reads the game so well and his distribution is improving. McCrystal 7 Played very well on his return to the side. The only reason I could really think that he replaced Parkes was to do with Mildenhall returning and the fact that Macs style of play is more suitable to having a goalkeeper who doesn't pass the ball out confidently to defenders. The defence handled a very difficult opponent in Akinfenwa very well and the fact that we restricted Wimbledon to very few chances really showed that defence and goalkeeper was not where our problems were today and in all honesty is not an area where we have problems very often. Brown 7 Attacked quite well in the first half but for me he still does not release the ball early enough when he has a winger in front of him. That said he defended well and was rarely troubled Bodin 5 Poor game overall as there were very few tricks that worked today and did not really give us much width to our game which is essential when you are playing against ten players. Should have scored in the second half with a chance that looked easier to score than miss. Mansell 6.5 For me this was not Manse's best but kept trying to drive the team forward without really having much creativity to unlock stubborn opponents. I can never see an Ollie Clarke/Mansell combination working as there is no real creativity between them. Cannot fault Manse's defensive qualities in the middle and his leadership but we really need either the three in there with Sinclair or play maybe Easter in there to carry the ball forward. If Sinclair and Lines are going to be out much longer then we are going to need to bring in a central midfield player in the January window. Clarke 6.5 For me he was better than Mansell in the first half but faded badly in the second half. Tried very hard but lacks the ability to carry the ball forward with confidence and rarely manages to get in a shot these days. IMO a reasonable bench player but it worries me that the best we can put out at the moment is a Mansell/Clarke partnership as this is not going to be good enough to keep us either in or chasing a Play off spot. Gosling 5 Another who IMO is not consistent enough or strong enough to warrant starting a game and his moments in a game are certainly not often enough. Overall our midfield four did not influence the game enough and when you play against opponents who are more than happy to keep whacking the ball in the air then you need your middle players to bring the ball down and pass it quickly and control the pace of the game. Taylor 5.5 Why did DC break up the Gaffney partnership that has served us well recently. Totally baffled me really. Classy flick on that sent Harrison away only to be brought down for the sending off and should have scored in the first half but chipped the ball straight into the goalkeepers arms when he should have kept going and at least got his shot on target. This was Mattys worst overall performance and I am not convinced that Taylor/Harrison can ever make a combination at this level. Harrison 5 Apart from his early turn of pace he was very disappointing for me and I have to be honest and say that I am not convinced that he is good enough to lead our attack or in fact be in the starting 11. I would have been more inclined to have kept him on when Gaffney came on and replaced either Matty or Bodin. Substitutes Leadbitter 4 A very disappointing performance. Seemed all over the place when he came on and his first touch was very poor. He definitely looked a weak link in what was previously a good defensive performance and we looked far more vulnerable down that side in the second half. Montano 5 No better or worse than Gosling/Bodin and did actually manage to put two good crosses in and a shot just over. At the moment how we play I see little point in having any wingers as both full backs hold on to the ball too long and our attacks are very much laboured events. Gaffney 5 Only on a short time and did nothing of note. Referee 6 Not the best and not the worst. Allowed Wimbledon to time waste. Crowd 7 Good turn out again but the game didn't help the atmosphere. DC Can't really criticise his dabbling when we draw or lose because he does this when we win as well but it is my opinion that he made too many changes today and it seems clear to me that a midfield partnership of Ollie Clarke and Mansell is never going to be good enough. How he can continually have Easter on the bench when we are so lacking in creative players is a mystery to me in the same way that he trys to play with wingers but then have the full backs failing to bring them into the game quick enough. 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Post by GasMacc1 on Dec 27, 2015 23:42:07 GMT
On Boxing Day, the official record shows that there were 806 Rovers fans in a total crowd of 4,668 at AFC Wimbledon. According to the Argyle Official Site, on the opening day of the season, Wimbledon had a crowd of 4,805, which included 932 Plymouth fans. So I wonder why there was a problem for Gasheads... Anyone know how many couldn't get in? Was it as bad as (or worse than) the Woking away game last season? I must admit I thought the wording of the articles on the Rovers OS before the Wimbledon game contained a veiled warning that all might not be well. "Darrell Clarke's side initially make the trip to Kingsmeadow on Boxing Day for one of the games of the busy festive period. The club have sold 722 tickets in advance, however as far as the club is aware pay on the day will be available". It's the phrase "as far as the club is aware" bit that made me wonder. Interestingly, that phrase was also used in the article "AFC Wimbledon tickets go on General Sale", dated 11th December. AFC Wimbledon Tickets Go on General SaleThe obvious question is...why were Rovers not 100% "aware" of whether pay on the day would be available. Maybe it's just a badly chosen phrase. Perhaps it would have been better to make a more explicit warning that those without a ticket might be locked out if capacity is reached. But that still leaves me wondering how they managed to fit in 932 of the Green Army back in August...? |
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Post by chelt_gas on Dec 28, 2015 0:55:20 GMT
On Boxing Day, the official record shows that there were 806 Rovers fans in a total crowd of 4,668 at AFC Wimbledon. According to the Argyle Official Site, on the opening day of the season, Wimbledon had a crowd of 4,805, which included 932 Plymouth fans. So I wonder why there was a problem for Gasheads... Anyone know how many couldn't get in? Was it as bad as (or worse than) the Woking away game last season? I must admit I thought the wording of the articles on the Rovers OS before the Wimbledon game contained a veiled warning that all might not be well. "Darrell Clarke's side initially make the trip to Kingsmeadow on Boxing Day for one of the games of the busy festive period. The club have sold 722 tickets in advance, however as far as the club is aware pay on the day will be available". It's the phrase "as far as the club is aware" bit that made me wonder. Interestingly, that phrase was also used in the article "AFC Wimbledon tickets go on General Sale", dated 11th December. AFC Wimbledon Tickets Go on General SaleThe obvious question is...why were Rovers not 100% "aware" of whether pay on the day would be available. Maybe it's just a badly chosen phrase. Perhaps it would have been better to make a more explicit warning that those without a ticket might be locked out if capacity is reached. But that still leaves me wondering how they managed to fit in 932 of the Green Army back in August...? Genuine question: whose role, if any, is to confirm the allocation of (a) tickets (b) capacity allocation (c) remuneration (if any) for away fans? The wording in the above article appears to absolve the club from confirming arrangements with AFC Wimbledon with regard to the provision for our supporters. Given the Woking experience only last season it's reasonable for BRFC and/or the supporters club to ask these questions for any away game where there may be a variance of 300 supporters and a limited space for away supporters. It's not good enough if the club treats supporters as an afterthought, especially on Boxing Day. |
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Post by Thatslife on Dec 28, 2015 8:58:46 GMT
Wolves have a scheme where, at the beginning of the season, supporters who travel to away games regularly can buy an away match season ticket. This does not involve buying a seasons worth of away tickets but does guarantee the owner a ticket for every away game that they want to attend. Obviously the tickets have to be claimed by a certain time so the remainder can go on general sale. Anyone who wanted one could've bought one in advance, so that scheme wouldn't have changed anything. What went wrong here is that Wimbledon didn't put any measures in place to stop people travelling without tickets despite knowing that advanced sales had nearly reached capacity. I am not saying it would have changed anything but knowing you have a guaranteed away ticket, for regular travellers, would take away the worry of not getting one. |
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Post by fanatical on Dec 28, 2015 9:37:04 GMT
Another excellent report - but frankley could have written the same as soon as the team sheet was produced - rather predictable poor engine room (midfield) and Harrison should never start - he is best as an impact player and I have no doubt would have proven to be a match winner (again) had he come on with 15 mins to go.
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in turning.
