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Post by a more piratey game on Nov 6, 2015 10:51:21 GMT
do you think we've the potential for this, and if so would you want it?
for myself, I wouldn't mind at all. I can see a cereal café, a cheese and craft ale pub, a completely different and on-trend range in the club shop. No room for any red trousers though, obviously. We're a bit weird already, this might add a bit of cachet to the brand, just as long as its organic and not manufactured - building on what we've got already
www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/nov/06/the-joy-of-six-hipsters-favourite-football-clubs
Considering the word “hipster” conjures up images of trendy and pretentious bearded, beanie-wearing, over-priced cereal-munching Nathan Barley types in tapered trousers and ironic Buddy Holly spectacles, you could be forgiven for presuming it to be … well, perhaps just a mite pejorative. These bastions of self-awareness aren’t everyone’s glass of Fernet-Branca and generally don’t refer to themselves as hipsters, presumably on the grounds that they presume gadding about Hoxton on a pogo stick or micro scooter to be completely normal behaviour and it is everyone else whose behaviour is odd. Besides, it’s not them to whom the term refers, it’s those other guys who look and act just like them in an outrageous bid to copy their unique style.
Although its precise origins remain mired in debate, the fairly recent introduction of the term “football hipster” into everyday parlance continues to amuse. A term of mockery for the kind of people who claim to find The Blizzard too mainstream, it used to describe a demographic who revel in the obscure by taking an interest – or at least pretending to take an interest – in niche aspects of football culture to which the greater general football-following public remain happily oblivious.
They are harmless folk: weekend warriors, kicking against the fools and railing against the soullessness and venality of modern football, which they quite rightly claim to abhor. By extension, through no great fault of their own, certain football clubs have become symbols of football hipsterdom and many of them seem to have a lot in common: an almost blanket lack of on-field success, a history of anti-establishmentarianism, the status of plucky underdog, a nice away shirt, hated rivals they regard as sellouts, trendy sponsors (or ideally, no sponsors at all), subsidised tickets, ties to various charities, a good relationship with their local community, and a tradition of grand gestures and tolerance towards minorities often traduced by supporters of more “mainstream” clubs.
Many, needless to say, are owned or part-owned by their fans and have almost certainly featured prominently before now at some point in the Guardian, as you’ll see below. A weird number seem to have ties with Celtic Football Club, a longtime global brand but often cited as the original hipster outsiders, in so far as any institution dreamt up by a Catholic clergyman can be considered “cool”. Here then, for your delectation, are six fantastic football clubs dotted around the world to whom an emerging generation of modern football hipsters have hitched or will continue to hitch their wagons.
Of course, in this live-and-let-live world which features the comical desperation of many football fans to chisel out offence where none is intended (see the comments under last week’s Joy of Six for examples), it’s worth pointing out that if a club in which you happen to take an interest happens to appear on the list, that doesn’t make your support inauthentic in any way. Those other Jeremy Come-Latelys might be bandwagon-jumping tossers muscling in on your club generating much-needed atmosphere and revenue, but it’s you who is the genuine fan.
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Post by brizzle on Nov 6, 2015 12:58:32 GMT
With the best will in the world I don't believe that we will ever become an ''achingly trendy'' football club, irrespective of who the present owners of the day might be. This would include any of those pesky Jeremy Come-Latelys.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 13:37:02 GMT
That's another 2 mins of my life that I won't get back.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Nov 6, 2015 14:35:45 GMT
We have a fair few who attend St.Pauli games plus we have ongoing talks with Sabadell. We have the Pirates, that is very brand worthy plus GNI as an anthem ( even though I e grown very tired if it, as it is done nowadays) We have a lot of untapped potential
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Post by irishrover on Nov 6, 2015 14:40:52 GMT
I think it's looking at it slightly the wrong way round.
There's no doubt that there are aspects of the fan culture around Rovers that are a bit unique and might have wider appeal. But the clubs in that list didn't evolve that way because someone at the top of the club went 'this would be a good idea'. It was something that evolved organically in very different ways. I don't really think there's such a thing as 'hipster' football - I think it's largely a creation of journalists so they can put together lists like this because in truth none of these clubs have anything much in common other than that they have a vibrant and somewhat unique fan culture and by definition that is not something that can be 'marketed through branding' because that it is by definition bottom up process. The brand in this case evolved from the culture not the other way round. So I think any club attempting to redefine itself as 'alternative' or 'progressive' or 'hipster' or whatever would fall flat on its ass to be honest and end up alienating pretty much everybody. I suppose fan clubs starting from scratch have some leeway to define the values of that club - so something like FC United, AFC Wimbledon or the new club which is starting in Liverpool next season have very distinct identities. But that's not quite the same thing either because in those cases clubs evolved to recognise a need for fans to retain some control over clubs and more importantly that the live football experience should be privileged over the televised experience. The idea of an existing club attempting to transform it's image to appeal to a largely imagined hipster sensibility strikes me as a recipe for disaster to be honest.
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Post by severnbeachline on Nov 6, 2015 14:50:34 GMT
I was attracted to Rovers because I like terraces. I might be a hipster?
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Post by Thatslife on Nov 6, 2015 14:55:06 GMT
If you look at the age demographic of BRFC supporters, trendy and hipster are not the words that spring to mind
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 16:42:18 GMT
Not a chance, the club and supporters don't really do enough to encourage people from different demographics to attend.
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Post by Curly Wurly on Nov 6, 2015 16:53:30 GMT
That is probably the most tenuous article that I have read in a while.
There are unique aspects about Rovers that could be exploited (Quarters, Gas, Pirate, etc.) but unless we do a complete volte face and embrace the ethereal Gloucester Road alternative culture, we'll never be a hipster club.
So f**k me, I hope not.
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Post by pirate49 on Nov 6, 2015 17:27:08 GMT
If you look at the age demographic of BRFC supporters, trendy and hipster are not the words that spring to mind Not so much hipster as hip replacement!
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Post by Curly Wurly on Nov 6, 2015 17:58:51 GMT
If you look at the age demographic of BRFC supporters, trendy and hipster are not the words that spring to mind Not so much hipster as hip replacement! We are pretty good at self deprecation.
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Post by brizzle on Nov 6, 2015 19:53:16 GMT
We have a fair few who attend St.Pauli games plus we have ongoing talks with Sabadell. We have the Pirates, that is very brand worthy plus GNI as an anthem ( even though I e grown very tired if it, as it is done nowadays) We have a lot of untapped potential You seem to have got the grasp of it all, KP.
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