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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 13:38:02 GMT
There is a lot of work going on behind the scenes, which for obvious reasons cannot be disclosed," he said.
It's not obvious to me why the people who provide the vast majority of the money that keeps the club alive can't be told what's going on?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 14:21:32 GMT
What exactly is his role? He says he doesn't have a vote as a 'non-executive Director'. You're either a Director (with equal say and vote in running the company), or you're not. An Executive Director is also a paid employee; a non-executive Director isn't. He seems to be a non-executive non-Director. Does that make him an advisor?
Then again, everything seems to be done by the Chairman (and non-executive Director) and the 'Finance Director', who is actually an executive, not a Director. The actual Directors seem, at best, publicly mute. How much they're consulted or have input to how the club is run, seems questionable. All grand titles tarting up a governance mess. Wasn't one of the great leaps forward going to be sorting this out and assigning responsibilities?
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 26, 2015 14:29:28 GMT
I thought he said that he's not expecting to have a vote as a non-exec, and that in his experience of football votes aren't taken anyway - which isn't uncommon in boardrooms more generally, I think
or it might be my fuzzy memory
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Post by Henbury Gas on Oct 26, 2015 14:36:18 GMT
What exactly is his role? He says he doesn't have a vote as a 'non-executive Director'. You're either a Director (with equal say and vote in running the company), or you're not. An Executive Director is also a paid employee; a non-executive Director isn't. He seems to be a non-executive non-Director. Does that make him an advisor? Then again, everything seems to be done by the Chairman (and non-executive Director) and the 'Finance Director', who is actually an executive, not a Director. The actual Directors seem, at best, publicly mute. How much they're consulted or have input to how the club is run, seems questionable. All grand titles tarting up a governance mess. Wasn't one of the great leaps forward going to be sorting this out and assigning responsibilities? If you listen to the interview he explained very clearly what his role is and that was to advise the board only
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Post by brizzle on Oct 26, 2015 15:50:51 GMT
I thought he said that he's not expecting to have a vote as a non-exec, and that in his experience of football votes aren't taken anyway - which isn't uncommon in boardrooms more generally, I think or it might be my fuzzy memoryNo ampg, I don't think that it's your fuzzy memory at all. As I remember it, at the time of his appointment to the BoD he explained with some clarity what his role within the club would be. The Bristol Post reported the following in mid-September . . .
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Post by bristolsportfan on Oct 26, 2015 15:51:52 GMT
Corporate governance theory is fine for publicly listed companies but a lot of football clubs are owned by one bloke who appoints himself as chairman and takes all the decisions.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 15:57:09 GMT
a lot of football clubs are owned by one bloke who appoints himself as chairman and takes all the decisions. Which is absolutely fine, but if you are going to do that then spare us the ''All in this together'' nonsense every time things go pear shaped.
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 26, 2015 16:25:04 GMT
Corporate governance theory is fine for publicly listed companies but a lot of football clubs are owned by one bloke who appoints himself as chairman and takes all the decisions. which doesn't appear to be the case here, based on 'he is taking up the position on a voluntary basis after being persuaded to come on board as a result of his friendship with current directors Chris Jelf and Ed Ware'
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Post by Peter Parker on Oct 26, 2015 16:43:19 GMT
Sextoy has always talked a good game since his days at Glos CCC.
I wouldn't take much of what the spin doctor has to say, he will just say nothing a lot more eloquent than the Chairman
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Post by droitwichgas on Oct 26, 2015 21:42:49 GMT
Corporate governance theory is fine for publicly listed companies but a lot of football clubs are owned by one bloke who appoints himself as chairman and takes all the decisions. which doesn't appear to be the case here, based on 'he is taking up the position on a voluntary basis after being persuaded to come on board as a result of his friendship with current directors Chris Jelf and Ed Ware' Bearing in mind he also said he needed to be nearer home, for obvious reason, what do you beleive? Given that CJ doesn't even seem to watch the club often himself it would be surprising he persuaded CS to join?
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 26, 2015 23:44:37 GMT
in this case I believe the Sexbloke. Can't see why he would have said what he said otherwise
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2015 7:28:18 GMT
in this case I believe the Sexbloke. Can't see why he would have said what he said otherwise Believe what? Read it carefully, he's actually said nothing new. He's just said it more artfully than Higgs would have.
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Post by severnbeachline on Oct 27, 2015 8:49:00 GMT
in this case I believe the Sexbloke. Can't see why he would have said what he said otherwise Believe what? Read it carefully, he's actually said nothing new. He's just said it more artfully than Higgs would have. #shambles #sexblokeout
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 27, 2015 12:02:42 GMT
in this case I believe the Sexbloke. Can't see why he would have said what he said otherwise Believe what? Read it carefully, he's actually said nothing new. He's just said it more artfully than Higgs would have. to answer your question, him when he said...
'he is taking up the position on a voluntary basis after being persuaded to come on board as a result of his friendship with current directors Chris Jelf and Ed Ware'
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Post by bristolsportfan on Oct 27, 2015 12:43:20 GMT
Corporate governance theory is fine for publicly listed companies but a lot of football clubs are owned by one bloke who appoints himself as chairman and takes all the decisions. which doesn't appear to be the case here, based on 'he is taking up the position on a voluntary basis after being persuaded to come on board as a result of his friendship with current directors Chris Jelf and Ed Ware' I guess CS's role is to provide free advice but not have any say in the actual decisions. While this is a "voluntary" arrangement (i.e. I presume he charges nothing for turning up to meetings, etc.), I suspect that he would receive a fee if he found someone willing to invest in BRFC. He may even have a pool of potential investors who approached City while he was there but were chased off by former Eastville bovver boy, Stephen Lansdown.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2015 13:42:33 GMT
Believe what? Read it carefully, he's actually said nothing new. He's just said it more artfully than Higgs would have. to answer your question, him when he said...
'he is taking up the position on a voluntary basis after being persuaded to come on board as a result of his friendship with current directors Chris Jelf and Ed Ware'
Oh OK, I thought that was already known too
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Post by brizzle on Oct 27, 2015 15:09:30 GMT
which doesn't appear to be the case here, based on 'he is taking up the position on a voluntary basis after being persuaded to come on board as a result of his friendship with current directors Chris Jelf and Ed Ware' I guess CS's role is to provide free advice but not have any say in the actual decisions. While this is a "voluntary" arrangement (i.e. I presume he charges nothing for turning up to meetings, etc.), I suspect that he would receive a fee if he found someone willing to invest in BRFC. He may even have a pool of potential investors who approached City while he was there but were chased off by former Eastville bovver boy, Stephen Lansdown. Please don't misunderstand me because I think the that Colin Sextone's appointment by BRFC is to be welcomed, but remember that there is no such thing as a ''free lunch.'' So clearly there must be something in it for him somewhere, and quite rightly so. Nobody should be expected to provide their professional services for nowt, and I doubt that they would do so. Perhaps he's on a percentage?
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