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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 11, 2015 8:39:49 GMT
With all this speculation, i was wondering why people typically buy football clubs. I've the following in mind, can you add or improve the list (ego and recognition being maybe a given for all of them)...
Boyhood/girlhood fan gets to live his/her dream eg NH
Financial investment in growing global business eg Glazers/Manure
A chance to financially re-engineer a reasonably predictable income stream eg Glazers/manure, clubs that have gone quoted
Financial investment aligned with other sports business eg Ashley/Toon
A bit of a go at something else after having made a lot of money eg Lord (ex-Suralan) Sugar, Mr Pantsdown, the bloke who ran all the Toon Franchises for a while
Just another way to show off/chance your arm eg Michael Knighton, the Cardiff bloke
A belief that you know something about the job that will mean you'll out-perform all the non-specialists above eg Mandaric?
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Post by bluegashead on Oct 11, 2015 10:24:55 GMT
New/big stadium, big fan Base in my opinion.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 11, 2015 11:05:58 GMT
By default/chance ie club they support hits financial troubles and they are asked/volunteer to assist having previously had no real intention of getting involved?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 11:35:11 GMT
Insanity.
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Post by a more piratey game on Oct 11, 2015 11:45:29 GMT
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Post by interceptor on Oct 11, 2015 14:56:05 GMT
If I had a stash of cash, you know £ 70-80m I would have absolutely no hesitation in trying to buy or invest in Bristol Rovers. The thing is it would have to be a sum that would not effect my standard of living were I to be unsuccessful in both owning, marketing them to premiership. What fan wouldn't want to propel their side forward.
As it is I only have £69m so I am out.
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Post by dagnogo on Oct 11, 2015 17:13:58 GMT
Having an ego the size of Russia, being responsible for years of failire before bringing in another guy who failed worse, but still believing that you're the best thing since sliced bread.
Mentioning no names
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 17:16:48 GMT
I'd buy the club and ban Jeff Dinsford for bantz.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 13, 2015 12:51:31 GMT
Having an ego the size of Russia, being responsible for years of failire before bringing in another guy who failed worse, but still believing that you're the best thing since sliced bread. Mentioning no names Thing is that both have managed to get into elevated company by owning even a club such as ours. You only have to look a GD Twitter to see the people he mixes with. This would not have been so had he/they not been owners of a football club. It does have its benefits. The pair of them would otherwuse be just A.N other fairly wealthy people but virtually unknowns IMO. Both basically inherited their wealth. I don't begrudge either of them the money but I do wish they had the ability and humility to delegate, to allow others with better footballing nous, to come into the club and run it well. I think both have shown themselves to have ego problems but that is just my opinion. I think many buy football clubs for the apparent kudos it brings and it does open doors to old money too. You know, full well, nouveau riche are never really accepted within certain circles. My experience of fencing, in public schools, really hammered that home. |
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Post by LPGas on Oct 14, 2015 11:05:40 GMT
If I had £80 million I would build the stadium, but I wouldn't keep pumping money in to the club. I might invest in to a smaller non league club because you could change them forever, but apart from the ground at Rovers you would quickly be forgotten
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Post by brizzle on Oct 14, 2015 11:33:54 GMT
I've always believed that the reason that rich people become involved in buying football clubs is vanity. Whether they buy into a Premiership club or a National League club is neither here nor there, the fact is that they can sit in their own reserved area on matchdays and receive the plaudits of the great unwashed. Mind you it must cost 'em big time for the privilege of it all.
I remember reading once that Alan Sugar went home and told his wife that he had bought Spurs that day. I can guarantee you that he didn't do so as purely a business decision, but more as a big boys toy.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 14, 2015 13:36:22 GMT
I've always believed that the reason that rich people become involved in buying football clubs is vanity. Whether they buy into a Premiership club or a National League club is neither here nor there, the fact is that they can sit in their own reserved area on matchdays and receive the plaudits of the great unwashed. Mind you it must cost 'em big time for the privilege of it all. I remember reading once that Alan Sugar went home and told his wife that he had bought Spurs that day. I can guarantee you that he didn't do so as purely a business decision, but more as a big boys toy. Nail on head |
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Post by matealotblue on Oct 14, 2015 14:11:37 GMT
I've always believed that the reason that rich people become involved in buying football clubs is vanity. Whether they buy into a Premiership club or a National League club is neither here nor there, the fact is that they can sit in their own reserved area on matchdays and receive the plaudits of the great unwashed. Mind you it must cost 'em big time for the privilege of it all. I remember reading once that Alan Sugar went home and told his wife that he had bought Spurs that day. I can guarantee you that he didn't do so as purely a business decision, but more as a big boys toy. She may also have wondered what was going to happen that night behind closed doors until he explained a bit further!! |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Oct 14, 2015 14:55:00 GMT
I've always believed that the reason that rich people become involved in buying football clubs is vanity. Whether they buy into a Premiership club or a National League club is neither here nor there, the fact is that they can sit in their own reserved area on matchdays and receive the plaudits of the great unwashed. Mind you it must cost 'em big time for the privilege of it all. I remember reading once that Alan Sugar went home and told his wife that he had bought Spurs that day. I can guarantee you that he didn't do so as purely a business decision, but more as a big boys toy. She may also have wondered what was going to happen that night behind closed doors until he explained a bit further!! At least she knew ge wouldn't be taking her up the @rse......nal ! |
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Post by bangkokgas on Oct 14, 2015 17:28:07 GMT
In the case of Asians buying clubs here - i am convinced it is a 'status' thing - don't think they really care how much profit is in it for them. A friend of mine is a close relative of the Thai people who bought into Leicester and as well as they are doing, the ownewrs will never put the huge bucks in to get take them all the way onto superstardom- in the unlikely event they come close to being in that situation. BUT jeez..I wish someone Asian or otherwise would come in for us even if to pay off our debt ang get a new stadium...
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Post by eppinggas on Oct 14, 2015 18:30:39 GMT
With all this speculation, i was wondering why people typically buy football clubs. I've the following in mind, can you add or improve the list (ego and recognition being maybe a given for all of them)... Boyhood/girlhood fan gets to live his/her dream eg NH Financial investment in growing global business eg Glazers/Manure A chance to financially re-engineer a reasonably predictable income stream eg Glazers/manure, clubs that have gone quoted Financial investment aligned with other sports business eg Ashley/Toon A bit of a go at something else after having made a lot of money eg Lord (ex-Suralan) Sugar, Mr Pantsdown, the bloke who ran all the Toon Franchises for a while Just another way to show off/chance your arm eg Michael Knighton, the Cardiff bloke A belief that you know something about the job that will mean you'll out-perform all the non-specialists above eg Mandaric? Just one more to add. Money-laundering. |
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Post by interceptor on Oct 17, 2015 8:09:43 GMT
Having an ego the size of Russia, being responsible for years of failire before bringing in another guy who failed worse, but still believing that you're the best thing since sliced bread. Mentioning no names Thing is that both have managed to get into elevated company by owning even a club such as ours. You only have to look a GD Twitter to see the people he mixes with. This would not have been so had he/they not been owners of a football club. It does have its benefits. The pair of them would otherwuse be just A.N other fairly wealthy people but virtually unknowns IMO. Both basically inherited their wealth. I don't begrudge either of them the money but I do wish they had the ability and humility to delegate, to allow others with better footballing nous, to come into the club and run it well. I think both have shown themselves to have ego problems but that is just my opinion. I think many buy football clubs for the apparent kudos it brings and it does open doors to old money too. You know, full well, nouveau riche are never really accepted within certain circles. My experience of fencing, in public schools, really hammered that home. That's the trouble with being a fencer, you are generally on the outside. Window cleaning gets you much closer to the rich and wealthy! |
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Post by irishrover on Oct 17, 2015 13:54:08 GMT
I would like to one day set up a real life version of Subbuteo - owning a football club would get me halfway to that dream. Then I would need some massive plastic bases, some very strong superglue and a really massive hand.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Oct 17, 2015 14:05:24 GMT
Thing is that both have managed to get into elevated company by owning even a club such as ours. You only have to look a GD Twitter to see the people he mixes with. This would not have been so had he/they not been owners of a football club. It does have its benefits. The pair of them would otherwuse be just A.N other fairly wealthy people but virtually unknowns IMO. Both basically inherited their wealth. I don't begrudge either of them the money but I do wish they had the ability and humility to delegate, to allow others with better footballing nous, to come into the club and run it well. I think both have shown themselves to have ego problems but that is just my opinion. I think many buy football clubs for the apparent kudos it brings and it does open doors to old money too. You know, full well, nouveau riche are never really accepted within certain circles. My experience of fencing, in public schools, really hammered that home. That's the trouble with being a fencer, you are generally on the outside. Window cleaning gets you much closer to the rich and wealthy! You'll have to do better than that, believe me I have heard so many. I can only now dream of taking part though I would love to be able to coach, I am just unable to do so. It's so very frustrating knowing I have the knowledge to help and give back to the sport but illness means I can't be relied upon as it really is one day at a time. |
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