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Post by a more piratey game on Sept 9, 2015 16:08:48 GMT
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11852887/Lawyer-accused-of-sexism-after-complimenting-barrister-on-stunning-LinkedIn-picture.html
Lawyer accused of sexism after complimenting barrister on 'stunning' LinkedIn picture
Alexander Carter-Silk messaged human rights lawyer Charlotte Proudman on LinkedIn to say she would "win the prize for the best Linked in picture I have ever seen"
A 57-year-old lawyer was accused of “unacceptable and misogynistic behaviour” after he sent a barrister half his age a LinkedIn message complimenting her on her “stunning picture”.
Alexander Carter-Silk was named and shamed on Twitter by 27-year-old human rights lawyer Charlotte Proudman who posted her reply to the message online.
He has since apologised for the message, in which he told Ms Proudman he was “delighted to connect”, adding “I appreciate that this is probably horrendously politically incorrect but that is a stunning picture !!!”
The lawyer, a partner at international firm Brown Rudnick continued: “You definitely win the prize for the best Linked in picture I have ever seen
“Always interest [sic] to understant [sic] people’s skills and how we might work together”.
Ms Proudman, who is studying for a PhD at the University of Cambridge researching female genital mutilation, told Mr Carter-Silk his message was “offensive”.
Her response, which prompted praise on social media, read: “I am on linked-in for business purposes not to be approached about my physical appearance or to be objectified by sexist men.
“The eroticisation of women’s physical appearance is a way of exercising power over women. It silences women’s professional attributes as their physical appearance becomes the subject
“Unacceptable and misogynistic behaviour. Think twice before sending another woman (half your age) such a sexist message.”
Ms Proudman said she had received similar messages about her appearance before, although not from anyone as senior as Mr Carter-Silk. Unlike her male peers, the barrister said she has never received a job offer through the professional networking site.
Ms Proudman told the Telegraph: "I was just so infuriated after I read the message. Initially I thought ‘Oh God another one, I’ll just delete it’.
"Then I thought, 'no I’m not going to take this'. This is from a senior partner who should know better."
She said Mr Carter-Silk had since apologised in an email which said: "I sincerely regret my remarks have offended you and I offer you my apologies".
But the barrister said the apology was not enough.
"He hasn’t in my view accepted the fact that his actions were incredibly sexist and on the basis of objectifying my appearance. It's absolutely bare minimum in terms of an apology."
A number of women responded to Ms Proudman with messages of support.
Mandeer Kataria said: “I changed my LinkedIn profile photo to an uglier one so I’d get fewer creepy men adding/messaging me”.
Jessica Asato said: “I would rather be complimented on my achievements than my face. One I worked hard for, the other I was born with”.
Ms Proudman said she had received “lots of supportive messages from men across all sectors”.
In a statement to the legal news and gossip site RollOnFriday, Carter-Silk said: “Most people post pretty unprofessional pictures on Linked in, my comment was aimed at the professional quality of the presentation on linked in which was unfortunately misinterpreted.
“Ms Proudman is clearly highly respected and I was pleased to receive her request to linkup and very happy to instruct her on matters which [are] relevant to her expertise that remains the position".
A spokesperson for law firm Brown Rudnick told the Daily Mail: “We are aware of the comments made by a member of the firm on a private social media account.
“We have apologised for the offence caused and have no further comment to make.”
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 9, 2015 16:10:41 GMT
Tenuous
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 16:29:45 GMT
Its not even tenuous!
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Post by brizzle on Sept 9, 2015 16:44:00 GMT
Tenuous or not, the stand-out line for me was ''Ms Proudman, who is studying for a PhD at the University of Cambridge researching female genital mutilation.''
I'm surprised that the University of Cambridge offers a course in the subject, and what opportunities (on graduation) does it offer the student I wonder?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 16:49:54 GMT
Tenuous or not, the stand-out line for me was ''Ms Proudman, who is studying for a PhD at the University of Cambridge researching female genital mutilation.'' I'm surprised that the University of Cambridge offers a course in the subject, and what opportunities (on graduation) does it offer the student I wonder? She'll be a well qualified expert on the horrendous practice of female genital mutilation and therefore hopefully in a good place to aid the campaign to stop it. I did think of a horrible pun to link this back to Bristol Rovers, but John-Joe isn't actually mutilated. |
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Sept 9, 2015 17:23:33 GMT
Don't take the risk of complimenting a woman. Stick to safe ground and just tell them all they are pig ugly.
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Post by strung out on Sept 10, 2015 8:11:23 GMT
Tenuous or not, the stand-out line for me was ''Ms Proudman, who is studying for a PhD at the University of Cambridge researching female genital mutilation.'' I'm surprised that the University of Cambridge offers a course in the subject, and what opportunities (on graduation) does it offer the student I wonder? PhDs don't work like that - Cambridge won't just 'offer a course' on FGM that anyone can sign up for, the student will have done at least one under-graduate degree previously, with at least one other post-graduate qualification at masters or professional level (most likely the Bar Vocational Course if she's a barrister). Having completed those qualifications, she will have had the opportunity to carry out specialist research in a topic of her and the university's choosing. This research will be done exclusively by the student under the supervision of a senior academic at Cambridge over 3-5 years, with the research written up into a doctoral thesis running to many hundreds of pages. Assuming the research contained in this thesis passes Cambridge's standards for awarding a PhD, the student will then pass the 'course' and be allowed to call themselves Doctor Proudman. In and of itself, the research should be of sufficient quality that it contributes actively to the cultural and social discourse surrounding the act of FGM and how to stop its practice in societies across the world. In addition to this, the student involved would then be ideally placed to act as an expert in the field, advising those involved in the fight to stop the barbaric practice effectively. Finally, the student may well carry out additional research on the subject (through a post-doctoral placement in higher education), or perhaps move on to other fields of anthropological and sociological research in academia. Alternatively, she could end up working for charities or official bodies as an adviser/expert in the practice of FGM when trying to tackle cases of it in the UK and elsewhere. Literally, yes Cambridge do 'offer a course' in this subject, but the reality is that it will just be this student doing so, and there will be an extremely specific piece of world class research being undertaken. In fact, I've looked it up for you - the thesis title is - "What is the role of law in changing harmful social and cultural practices, specifically female genital mutilation in England and Wales" Some more info on what she will do with the research: "Charlotte aims to use her research findings to engender change in law and policy. Indeed, Charlotte worked with the Bar Human Rights Committee in England and Wales working group on FGM in drafting written evidence to the House of Commons Home Affairs Committee on FGM, and Charlotte worked with the Shadow Minister for Preventing Violence Against Women and Girls in drafting clauses and amendments relating to FGM for the Serious Crime Act 2015 as well as speeches to accompany these legislative changes" |
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Post by strung out on Sept 10, 2015 8:12:01 GMT
Also, this topic really needs the anchor. As astafjevs says, not even tenuous.
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Post by brizzle on Sept 10, 2015 11:23:28 GMT
Tenuous or not, the stand-out line for me was ''Ms Proudman, who is studying for a PhD at the University of Cambridge researching female genital mutilation.'' I'm surprised that the University of Cambridge offers a course in the subject, and what opportunities (on graduation) does it offer the student I wonder? PhDs don't work like that - Cambridge won't just 'offer a course' on FGM that anyone can sign up for, the student will have done at least one under-graduate degree previously, with at least one other post-graduate qualification at masters or professional level (most likely the Bar Vocational Course if she's a barrister). Having completed those qualifications, she will have had the opportunity to carry out specialist research in a topic of her and the university's choosing. This research will be done exclusively by the student under the supervision of a senior academic at Cambridge over 3-5 years, with the research written up into a doctoral thesis running to many hundreds of pages. Assuming the research contained in this thesis passes Cambridge's standards for awarding a PhD, the student will then pass the 'course' and be allowed to call themselves Doctor Proudman. In and of itself, the research should be of sufficient quality that it contributes actively to the cultural and social discourse surrounding the act of FGM and how to stop its practice in societies across the world. In addition to this, the student involved would then be ideally placed to act as an expert in the field, advising those involved in the fight to stop the barbaric practice effectively. Finally, the student may well carry out additional research on the subject (through a post-doctoral placement in higher education), or perhaps move on to other fields of anthropological and sociological research in academia. Alternatively, she could end up working for charities or official bodies as an adviser/expert in the practice of FGM when trying to tackle cases of it in the UK and elsewhere. Literally, yes Cambridge do 'offer a course' in this subject, but the reality is that it will just be this student doing so, and there will be an extremely specific piece of world class research being undertaken. In fact, I've looked it up for you - the thesis title is - "What is the role of law in changing harmful social and cultural practices, specifically female genital mutilation in England and Wales" Some more info on what she will do with the research: "Charlotte aims to use her research findings to engender change in law and policy. Indeed, Charlotte worked with the Bar Human Rights Committee in England and Wales working group on FGM in drafting written evidence to the House of Commons Home Affairs Committee on FGM, and Charlotte worked with the Shadow Minister for Preventing Violence Against Women and Girls in drafting clauses and amendments relating to FGM for the Serious Crime Act 2015 as well as speeches to accompany these legislative changes" Good, comprehensive post that. But I can't help but think that if the Daily Telegraph reporter had been equally thorough, then all of your research would not have necessary. Mind you I'm not trying to guide you towards a career in journalism, you would clearly be over-qualified. |
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