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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2015 21:19:16 GMT
There's a big question mark over whether Puddy is good enough anyway (and I'm in the camp that says he deserves a go). With him out indefinitely, telling Mildenhall to do one was probably not the most sensible strategic call, in my opinion.
Having said that, if we're at the mercy of the loan market its essential we get somebody on a medium to long loan deal so we're not in the situation we were a few seasons ago.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 9, 2015 22:32:56 GMT
There's a big question mark over whether Puddy is good enough anyway (and I'm in the camp that says he deserves a go). With him out indefinitely, telling Mildenhall to do one was probably not the most sensible strategic call, in my opinion. Having said that, if we're at the mercy of the loan market its essential we get somebody on a medium to long loan deal so we're not in the situation we were a few seasons ago. To be fair DC did give him a chance but he still looked as poor as last season, it's odd really because during our relegation season, when you'd think he'd be under pressure, he was one of our better players. Perhaps age has just caught up with him, although he's not old for a keeper.
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Post by Royal Blue on Sept 9, 2015 23:09:33 GMT
I don't think DC had the budget to tinker with the goalkeeping situation during the summer. He was forced to keep Mildy on because his appearances triggered an extension and he retained Puddy because he viewed him as someone who would push Mildy all the way for the number 1 shirt. As it turns out, Puddy's injury is worse than was originally feared earlier in the summer and Mildy clearly isn't the goalkeeper we signed a few years ago. His confidence is shot and he is just hideously slow now in his reactions. DC's lost faith in him and there's no way back from that, especially at his age.
Given the state of the goalkeeping situation - which everyone, including NH, realised was pretty bad after the Northampton and Birmingham games - DC must have pushed to be able to improve the squad in that area and received his chairman's backing. Chapman has done well and I quite like him, but the news of Nicholls makes me think he was only ever seen as a stop-gap until DC could get his number 1 target. I think LN is that man.
I think I am right in saying that the maximum loan period a player can sign for in the emergency loan window is 93 days, so hopefully we'll be able to keep Nicholls for the duration of that period. I'd love to think there was a view to buying him, as DC will want a settled goalkeeper in place long-term, but he is really highly rated so I'm not sure we'd a) be able to afford it, and b) be lucky enough to persuade Wigan to sell him.
Fingers crossed this all comes to fruition, as we would have a promising young goalie on our hands.
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 10, 2015 8:16:51 GMT
It's down to Darrell and he has already had the conversation about the 1st team slot with Mildy. Puddy is badly injured. Preston not ready and for all we know Chapman might be recalled by Chesterfield. Rather have a Manager that planned ahead. Nichols is reputedly top drawer! Planning ahead would have to been to sort this in the summer, not loaning a succession of kids.
Nichols isn't a kid. Going by his age, this could well be with a view to a permanent move, whereas Chapman was obviously a fill-in
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Post by bs14gas on Sept 10, 2015 8:36:09 GMT
Planning ahead would have to been to sort this in the summer, not loaning a succession of kids. Yes,but in fairness maybe he didnt expect Puddy to come back unfit or Mildy to come back a shadow of the player two years ago. DC did have a keeper in for a trial pre-season ,from memory an ex-MK Dons keeper ,cant remember his name, but he too became injured so I wouldnt wholly blame the manager for the current problem You cant win anything with kids!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 8:36:43 GMT
Planning ahead would have to been to sort this in the summer, not loaning a succession of kids.
Nichols isn't a kid. Going by his age, this could well be with a view to a permanent move, whereas Chapman was obviously a fill-in
He's 22 with just over one full season of first team football under his belt. For a keeper, he's a kid in my book. He's got a similar profile to what Luke Daniels had when he joined us, and look how that turned out. I'd have stuck with Chapman if we could have.
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 10, 2015 9:21:48 GMT
Nichols isn't a kid. Going by his age, this could well be with a view to a permanent move, whereas Chapman was obviously a fill-in
He's 22 with just over one full season of first team football under his belt. For a keeper, he's a kid in my book. He's got a similar profile to what Luke Daniels had when he joined us, and look how that turned out. I'd have stuck with Chapman if we could have. Sorry, though someone above said he was 25, but that was Chapman. So Chapman isn't a kid!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 9:26:02 GMT
He's 22 with just over one full season of first team football under his belt. For a keeper, he's a kid in my book. He's got a similar profile to what Luke Daniels had when he joined us, and look how that turned out. I'd have stuck with Chapman if we could have. Sorry, though someone above said he was 25, but that was Chapman. So Chapman isn't a kid! I said they were both kids. I was talking about their experience as much as their age. Chapman's a (very) big kid.
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Post by brizzle on Sept 10, 2015 11:32:03 GMT
If it's in the Post, then it must be true . . .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 11:36:53 GMT
Thing is, he could be the new David De Gea only twice as good, but if we need to replace him again in two or three months time, its a waste of time when we should be trying to capitalise on our excellent defence.
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Post by brizzle on Sept 10, 2015 11:41:30 GMT
But what does the budget allow for, that's what I would like to know.
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Post by crater on Sept 10, 2015 11:53:53 GMT
Thing is, he could be the new David De Gea only twice as good, but if we need to replace him again in two or three months time, its a waste of time when we should be trying to capitalise on our excellent defence. If he was here 3 months and during that time we won lots of games and conceded very few, why would that be a waste of time?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 12:02:23 GMT
Thing is, he could be the new David De Gea only twice as good, but if we need to replace him again in two or three months time, its a waste of time when we should be trying to capitalise on our excellent defence. If he was here 3 months and during that time we won lots of games and conceded very few, why would that be a waste of time? Because we'd be looking for a new goalkeeper at a busy part of the season. How many points does a goalkeeper earn over the course of a season? Not many, I'd wager. A bad one can cost loads, an OK one does OK and a good one does a little bit better than OK. Most young goalkeepers make more mistakes then experienced ones; I can see no real point in helping to develop somebody else's young goalkeeper if we haven't got a long-term stake in it. Trollope fell into the trap of trying to always get the best possible young keeper, and we ended up with an unsettled defence who conceded regularly regardless of how good the goalie was. All we need is a bloke who knows the job, who can organise a decence that trusts him and who doesn't commit regular howlers, in my opinion. He doesn't need to be an England U21 or a potential future star.
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Post by faggotygas on Sept 10, 2015 12:30:14 GMT
Thing is, he could be the new David De Gea only twice as good, but if we need to replace him again in two or three months time, its a waste of time when we should be trying to capitalise on our excellent defence.
but what if the keeper we want is just not out there at the moment?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 12:32:02 GMT
Thing is, he could be the new David De Gea only twice as good, but if we need to replace him again in two or three months time, its a waste of time when we should be trying to capitalise on our excellent defence.
but what if the keeper we want is just not out there at the moment?
We might have thought about it earlier?
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 10, 2015 13:00:07 GMT
Don't you think the best thing would be to have Mildy back and doing a job ? I don't know but this seems to be an unnecessary problem. Personally I'd like to see a confident Mildy in goal and we have to pay him anyway so not like his wages will free up money for a striker. Yes but prior to him being dropped there were loads on here saying he needs replacing - too slow getting down to shots not commanding his box and his distribution is poor - you can't have it both ways mate Understood but I can honestly say that I didn't give out any stick to our GK. I have said, in the past, that I felt he could throw the ball more often but, apart from that, I think both he & Puddy got some unnecessary stick which carried on for longer than I expected. I could better understand it if it meant Mildys wages were freed up. Sometimes I just don't get how DC seemingly just freezes out certain players. Personally, I'd like to see a striker come in. Our GK hasn't had that much to
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Post by droitwichgas on Sept 10, 2015 13:02:15 GMT
If he was here 3 months and during that time we won lots of games and conceded very few, why would that be a waste of time? Because we'd be looking for a new goalkeeper at a busy part of the season. How many points does a goalkeeper earn over the course of a season? Not many, I'd wager. A bad one can cost loads, an OK one does OK and a good one does a little bit better than OK. Most young goalkeepers make more mistakes then experienced ones; I can see no real point in helping to develop somebody else's young goalkeeper if we haven't got a long-term stake in it. Trollope fell into the trap of trying to always get the best possible young keeper, and we ended up with an unsettled defence who conceded regularly regardless of how good the goalie was. All we need is a bloke who knows the job, who can organise a decence that trusts him and who doesn't commit regular howlers, in my opinion. He doesn't need to be an England U21 or a potential future star. Perhaps we need Mildenhall to move on/come to the end of his contract to free up a big slice of wages for a repalcment goalie, or DC sees a fit Puddy as our new No 1, who knows? Let's just hope Nicolls is signing and is also here for more than a month, assuming there's no sign of Puddy returning any time soon.
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Post by kingswood Polak on Sept 10, 2015 13:11:42 GMT
Thing is, he could be the new David De Gea only twice as good, but if we need to replace him again in two or three months time, its a waste of time when we should be trying to capitalise on our excellent defence. Spot on mate. We really need to sort this and have a GK who has a good understanding of our team. It's very important to have excellent communication with those you will have to work with.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Sept 10, 2015 13:27:34 GMT
Because we'd be looking for a new goalkeeper at a busy part of the season. How many points does a goalkeeper earn over the course of a season? Not many, I'd wager. A bad one can cost loads, an OK one does OK and a good one does a little bit better than OK. Most young goalkeepers make more mistakes then experienced ones; I can see no real point in helping to develop somebody else's young goalkeeper if we haven't got a long-term stake in it. Trollope fell into the trap of trying to always get the best possible young keeper, and we ended up with an unsettled defence who conceded regularly regardless of how good the goalie was. All we need is a bloke who knows the job, who can organise a decence that trusts him and who doesn't commit regular howlers, in my opinion. He doesn't need to be an England U21 or a potential future star. Perhaps we need Mildenhall to move on/come to the end of his contract to free up a big slice of wages for a repalcment goalie, or DC sees a fit Puddy as our new No 1, who knows? Let's just hope Nicolls is signing and is also here for more than a month, assuming there's no sign of Puddy returning any time soon. Perhaps but why make that decision in August instead of May?
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Sept 10, 2015 15:05:39 GMT
Nothing on the Club web site about this signing yet??
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