Cheshiregas
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Post by Cheshiregas on Aug 9, 2015 12:23:06 GMT
Interesting ~ so you don't pick and choose things to comment on from other posters or pick out single comments from longer posts to give your view. Splinters and logs come to mind... Well you are a moderator Terry (we do still have have mods that moderate don't we?) so you'll know I don't comment on every post. I didn't actually realise that it was one of the moderator's rules that you could only have an opinion if you have an opinion on every post, jeez that would increase the number of posts wouldn't it don't think the non-existent mods would be able to keep up with that. Still if you are going to consistently believe everything Nick says then I have no problem with that. I suspect though you will continue being a hypocrite & pick and choose what you believe from Nick and I may just comment on that now and again. You can like that or you can lump it. Or I guess you could ban me ... Bloody hell County getting a bit pathetic now. I am allowed my opinion even though I am a moderator and why the hell would I want to ban you ~ that is getting a bit neurotic. You are the one that picks and chooses. You are obviously upset with me about something and if that's the case I am sorry. I will refrain from commenting, posting or having an opinion on anything you say in future, it obviously grieves you if someone has a differing opinion. I will leave you to it. Have a good day.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Aug 9, 2015 12:51:03 GMT
Well you are a moderator Terry (we do still have have mods that moderate don't we?) so you'll know I don't comment on every post. I didn't actually realise that it was one of the moderator's rules that you could only have an opinion if you have an opinion on every post, jeez that would increase the number of posts wouldn't it don't think the non-existent mods would be able to keep up with that. Still if you are going to consistently believe everything Nick says then I have no problem with that. I suspect though you will continue being a hypocrite & pick and choose what you believe from Nick and I may just comment on that now and again. You can like that or you can lump it. Or I guess you could ban me ... Bloody hell County getting a bit pathetic now. I am allowed my opinion even though I am a moderator and why the hell would I want to ban you ~ that is getting a bit neurotic. You are the one that picks and chooses. You are obviously upset with me about something and if that's the case I am sorry.I will refrain from commenting, posting or having an opinion on anything you say in future, it obviously grieves you if someone has a differing opinion. I will leave you to it. Have a good day. No not particularly, you obviously chose to ignore the bit I put in brackets (& others), which sort of proves the original point I was making. You can comment on anything I post if you want if you don't want to then don't. I'll certainly comment on things that you say if it's absolutely crap.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 13:46:00 GMT
Bloody hell County getting a bit pathetic now. I am allowed my opinion even though I am a moderator and why the hell would I want to ban you ~ that is getting a bit neurotic. You are the one that picks and chooses. You are obviously upset with me about something and if that's the case I am sorry.I will refrain from commenting, posting or having an opinion on anything you say in future, it obviously grieves you if someone has a differing opinion. I will leave you to it. Have a good day. No not particularly, you obviously chose to ignore the bit I put in brackets (& others), which sort of proves the original point I was making. You can comment on anything I post if you want if you don't want to then don't. I'll certainly comment on things that you say if it's absolutely crap. Whilst ignoring Cheshire's posts which aren't?
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LPGas
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Post by LPGas on Aug 9, 2015 18:21:42 GMT
Interesting that we had a sojourn last year, I didn't expect anyone in Bristol (apart from Daniella) to know what of them were
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 18:57:29 GMT
Interesting that we had a sojourn last year, I didn't expect anyone in Bristol (apart from Daniella) to know what of them were It's ok, neither does Higgsy. Who is ghost writing these days?
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Post by billyocean on Aug 9, 2015 20:45:12 GMT
Perhaps NH isn't answering that issue as he's no idea of the answer himself? One quote I don't understand is "It is clear from the judgment that the single argument relied upon by Sainsbury’s to justify their refusal to complete were incorrect, and were not accepted by the judge." What argument was that and how did the Judge still find in Sainsbury's favour? I thought their argument was the contract had expired and they won at that point? Indeed we keep going on we won this point that point, the judge didnt agree such as such as per sainsburys But the judge still found in favour of sainsburys on what she called an insurmountable point/clause We might have good grounds for appeal but banging on about what went in our favour is pointless. The issue is how we argue how we get over the clause we aooarently cant get over She actually used the words "an insuperable barrier". Insuperable and insurmountable mean the same thing as far as I can tell, it's just one of those words that lawyers use to make people think they're cleverer than common folk (whereas the only difference is a private education that our parents couldn't afford). Anyway, I digress. What she meant was
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Post by billyocean on Aug 9, 2015 20:49:22 GMT
Perhaps NH isn't answering that issue as he's no idea of the answer himself? One quote I don't understand is "It is clear from the judgment that the single argument relied upon by Sainsbury’s to justify their refusal to complete were incorrect, and were not accepted by the judge." What argument was that and how did the Judge still find in Sainsbury's favour? I thought their argument was the contract had expired and they won at that point? Indeed we keep going on we won this point that point, the judge didnt agree such as such as per sainsburys But the judge still found in favour of sainsburys on what she called an insurmountable point/clause We might have good grounds for appeal but banging on about what went in our favour is pointless. The issue is how we argue how we get over the clause we aooarently cant get over She actually used the words "an insuperable barrier". Insuperable and insurmountable mean the same thing as far as I can tell, it's just one of those words that lawyers use to make people think they're cleverer than common folk (whereas the only difference is a private education that our parents couldn't afford). Anyway, I digress. What she meant was "The agreement is worded in such a way that you've got f-ing no chance enforcing it in this court or any other so appeal if you must but they'll agree with me too now on your way"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 21:15:38 GMT
Indeed we keep going on we won this point that point, the judge didnt agree such as such as per sainsburys But the judge still found in favour of sainsburys on what she called an insurmountable point/clause We might have good grounds for appeal but banging on about what went in our favour is pointless. The issue is how we argue how we get over the clause we aooarently cant get over She actually used the words "an insuperable barrier". Insuperable and insurmountable mean the same thing as far as I can tell, it's just one of those words that lawyers use to make people think they're cleverer than common folk (whereas the only difference is a private education that our parents couldn't afford). Anyway, I digress. What she meant was "The agreement is worded in such a way that you've got f-ing no chance enforcing it in this court or any other so appeal if you must but they'll agree with me too now on your way" Try telling that to a tub of lard who is never wrong!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 22:56:24 GMT
She actually used the words "an insuperable barrier". Insuperable and insurmountable mean the same thing as far as I can tell, it's just one of those words that lawyers use to make people think they're cleverer than common folk (whereas the only difference is a private education that our parents couldn't afford). Anyway, I digress. What she meant was "The agreement is worded in such a way that you've got f-ing no chance enforcing it in this court or any other so appeal if you must but they'll agree with me too now on your way" Try telling that to a tub of lard who is never wrong! She did. He heard 'far from clear cut' and took it as 'further vindication'. Then again, he was probably intending to do that whatever she said. It must be hard work being on his legal team.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 11:27:38 GMT
It must be hard work being on his legal team. Can you imagine? It must be horrendous dealing with the fallout from working on this case. So, what's it to be, new Mulsanne or F12 Berlinetta?
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Post by Lazza on Aug 10, 2015 13:47:31 GMT
Try telling that to a tub of lard who is never wrong! She did. He heard 'far from clear cut' and took it as 'further vindication'. Then again, he was probably intending to do that whatever she said. It must be hard work being on his legal team. Indeed, end of the day it doesn't matter what he was told because as usual he's utterly convinced that he was in the right all along and will fight on regardless. Regardless of the mounting debts, regardless of the "Wonga Loan" that needs paying back shortly, regardless of the further fees for the appeal and worst of the lot regardless despite how perilous the clubs long term future is looking right now. Belief is one thing, but this?? I don't think there's a term that comes close to describing the man's delusional behaviour and conviction that he still is, as always, 100% correct.
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Post by fanatical on Aug 10, 2015 16:16:10 GMT
Indeed we keep going on we won this point that point, the judge didnt agree such as such as per sainsburys But the judge still found in favour of sainsburys on what she called an insurmountable point/clauseWe might have good grounds for appeal but banging on about what went in our favour is pointless. The issue is how we argue how we get over the clause we aooarently cant get over She actually used the words "an insuperable barrier". Insuperable and insurmountable mean the same thing as far as I can tell, it's just one of those words that lawyers use to make people think they're cleverer than common folk (whereas the only difference is a private education that our parents couldn't afford). Anyway, I digress. What she meant was "The agreement is worded in such a way that you've got f-ing no chance enforcing it in this court or any other so appeal if you must but they'll agree with me too now on your way" only her opinion - sometimes lawyers do disagree you know?
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Post by Thatslife on Aug 10, 2015 17:06:09 GMT
She actually used the words "an insuperable barrier". Insuperable and insurmountable mean the same thing as far as I can tell, it's just one of those words that lawyers use to make people think they're cleverer than common folk (whereas the only difference is a private education that our parents couldn't afford). Anyway, I digress. What she meant was "The agreement is worded in such a way that you've got f-ing no chance enforcing it in this court or any other so appeal if you must but they'll agree with me too now on your way" only her opinion - sometimes lawyers do disagree you know? Therein is the reason NH is right to appeal, it's her OPINION !!!! The 3 new judges on the appeals bench may see it differently. If they do overturn her ruling, there will be a lot of people on here with some apologising to do (not that will ever happen). As the stupid American saying goes "it ain't over till the fat lady sings" L
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Post by chippenhamgas on Aug 10, 2015 17:31:36 GMT
only her opinion - sometimes lawyers do disagree you know? Therein is the reason NH is right to appeal, it's her OPINION !!!! The 3 new judges on the appeals bench may see it differently. If they do overturn her ruling, there will be a lot of people on here with some apologising to do (not that will ever happen). As the stupid American saying goes "it ain't over till the fat lady sings" L If nick pulls this off i will be the first to willingly eat humble pie and apologise for all the negative comments from me on this forum, however if (as i and most others) suspect, the opposite is true and we lose again, in the process suffering crippling legal fees and an uncertain future will he come out and apologise to every bristol rovers fan for so catastrophically letting them down? I doubt it, i'm sure it will be someone else's fault.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 19:40:09 GMT
Therein is the reason NH is right to appeal, it's her OPINION !!!! The 3 new judges on the appeals bench may see it differently. If they do overturn her ruling, there will be a lot of people on here with some apologising to do (not that will ever happen). As the stupid American saying goes "it ain't over till the fat lady sings" L If nick pulls this off i will be the first to willingly eat humble pie and apologise for all the negative comments from me on this forum, however if (as i and most others) suspect, the opposite is true and we lose again, in the process suffering crippling legal fees and an uncertain future will he come out and apologise to every bristol rovers fan for so catastrophically letting them down? I doubt it, i'm sure it will be someone else's fault. What would you call a victory in this case?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 19:50:11 GMT
only her opinion - sometimes lawyers do disagree you know? Therein is the reason NH is right to appeal, it's her OPINION !!!! The 3 new judges on the appeals bench may see it differently. If they do overturn her ruling, there will be a lot of people on here with some apologising to do (not that will ever happen). As the stupid American saying goes "it ain't over till the fat lady sings" L On the other hand, I think, when the whole Sainsbury's thing is either killed off completely, or overtaken by events, or otherwise peters out without comment (which is the usual way and might be the more likely in this case), the drum-bangers will declare it a master stroke on the part of the club and get shirty with anyone who 'drags up the past' to view the full picture and fails to have full confidence in the way the club is run. Oh, and there's a huge difference between OPINION (even in capitals and with lots of exclamation marks) and plucking a random decision out of the air.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Aug 10, 2015 21:00:13 GMT
If nick pulls this off i will be the first to willingly eat humble pie and apologise for all the negative comments from me on this forum, however if (as i and most others) suspect, the opposite is true and we lose again, in the process suffering crippling legal fees and an uncertain future will he come out and apologise to every bristol rovers fan for so catastrophically letting them down? I doubt it, i'm sure it will be someone else's fault. What would you call a victory in this case? An acceptable level of compensation that enables us to move on in a decent financial position, and hopefully leading to a change of ownership.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 21:31:07 GMT
What would you call a victory in this case? An acceptable level of compensation that enables us to move on in a decent financial position, and hopefully leading to a change of ownership. So basically reimbursement of the losses sustained getting to where we are now? For the record I would call that a victory but I can't see it happening. I think we are in for a spanking if Higgs continues with this lost cause.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 10, 2015 21:33:25 GMT
only her opinion - sometimes lawyers do disagree you know? Therein is the reason NH is right to appeal, it's her OPINION !!!! The 3 new judges on the appeals bench may see it differently. If they do overturn her ruling, there will be a lot of people on here with some apologising to do (not that will ever happen). As the stupid American saying goes "it ain't over till the fat lady sings" L No, NH really only has a right to spend more of the clubs money if he has a reasonable chance of success ie 50% or greater, given independent reviews of the case suggest the whole of contract law in this country will have to be overturned for us to win the Appeal then I'm personally can't see we do have a reasonable chance, just a chance hence why an Appeal was granted. If we do win and build the UWE then I'll thank NH with my own hard earned money by buying a season ticket in the new ground!
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Post by Thatslife on Aug 10, 2015 21:41:51 GMT
"The whole of the contract law in this country will have to be overturned" surely sir you doth exaggerate somewhat.
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