Thatslife
"Decisions are made by those who turn up"
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Post by Thatslife on Jul 30, 2015 18:21:19 GMT
To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself. That was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed.
Please, this is humour but rather apt humour.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 18:29:07 GMT
Humour?
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brizzle
Lindsay Parsons
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Post by brizzle on Jul 30, 2015 18:30:15 GMT
It's all a bit deep for me.
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Post by Colyton Gas. on Jul 30, 2015 18:35:46 GMT
Sounds like the chap from the BT call centre who talks Gobbledygook about mending my phone when the umpteenth engineer fails to turn up.
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Post by pirate49 on Jul 30, 2015 19:10:04 GMT
Has an Orwellian feel to it.
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Post by Wreckless on Jul 30, 2015 19:10:21 GMT
Is he saying that some of us are "mental"?
That's not very nice.
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Post by Cosmic Pasty on Jul 30, 2015 19:56:33 GMT
I'm not sure he's saying it at all. It sounds like two gallons of super-strength beer are doing all the talking!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 20:03:46 GMT
Have I had one glass of wine to many? as some of it makes sense to me.
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Bridgeman
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Post by Bridgeman on Jul 30, 2015 20:26:05 GMT
Have I had one glass of wine to many? as some of it makes sense to me. Maybe but from my reading of it, it has nothing to do with Bristol Rovers, has it ?
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Post by gashead01 on Jul 30, 2015 20:27:22 GMT
finally our root and branch investigation is complete.....
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Post by billyocean on Jul 30, 2015 20:30:19 GMT
I read nineteen eighty-four over 20 years ago for my GCSE English Lit and still recognised doublethink after all this time. I wonder if the same would be true of dialogue in an episode of Neighbours watched 20 years ago, like when Joe Mangel went blind
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aghast
David Williams
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Post by aghast on Jul 30, 2015 20:40:48 GMT
There's one specific poster on here who matches the quote perfectly.
You know who you are.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 30, 2015 20:45:33 GMT
So what forum name does NH use on here then?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 20:55:00 GMT
There's one specific poster on here who matches the quote perfectly. You know who you are. I know who I am. Is it me?
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aghast
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Post by aghast on Jul 30, 2015 21:02:08 GMT
There's one specific poster on here who matches the quote perfectly. You know who you are. I know who I am. Is it me? No! I think you post some very good stuff.
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Post by clockendgas on Jul 30, 2015 21:07:20 GMT
There's one specific poster on here who matches the quote perfectly. You know who you are. Its me, do i win a prize?
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Bridgeman
Alfie Biggs
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Post by Bridgeman on Jul 30, 2015 22:05:08 GMT
I'm Spartacus !
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irishrover
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Post by irishrover on Jul 30, 2015 22:07:44 GMT
There's one specific poster on here who matches the quote perfectly. You know who you are. I know who I am. Is it me? Can't be me - I never know who I am at this time of night. It is an excellent quote though. By referencing 1984 I believe the OP is subtly invoking memories of the 2-2 draw between Rotherham United and Rovers at Milmoor on 5th November 1984. There was a man called Winston in the crowd and Rotherham had a player named Smith. What's more the game was played on fireworks night so V for Vendetta as well. Surely you can see how all the pieces fall together, I mean it's obvious.....
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Post by Gregory Stevens on Jul 31, 2015 6:44:01 GMT
To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself. That was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed.
Please, this is humour but rather apt humour. [ 1984 has been a blueprint: - constantly at war far away - enemies become friends at the drop of a hat (Syria, Russia) - CCTV everywhere - hate speech and hate crime laws. Your premeditating thoughts are incriminating. - twitter naughty comments prosecuted - terror laws - unelected, unaudited, dictators in Brussels ruling, with legions of supporters believing this brings freedom and unity - stupid slogan based politics which have no meaning "people before profit, hope not hate , unity through diversity" - 2 minute hate for public figures like nick griffin and Nigel farage from state broadcaster. - the destruction of the family unit. - the promotion of superficial sex over love and companionship. - deliberate poor role models for young people eschewing morals and decency for stupidity and animalism. Miley, britney, etc - shopping of other citizens not paying state extortion or tax as otherwise known. - certain statistics removed or twisted to suit agendas. Sounds familiar to me
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Post by Bernard Briggs on Jul 31, 2015 6:45:34 GMT
I know who I am. Is it me? Can't be me - I never know who I am at this time of night. It is an excellent quote though. By referencing 1984 I believe the OP is subtly invoking memories of the 2-2 draw between Rotherham United and Rovers at Milmoor on 5th November 1984. Your memory is playing tricks. It wasn`t November; it was a cold, bright day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen, as we kicked off.
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