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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 14:22:06 GMT
When the club launched the share scheme it was because the club couldn't meet the repayments on a £1.2m mortgage and interest payments on the same amount to private investors. The club had no other debt. Do you really think that the club and stadium could be able to repay a loan of £15m? edit: on this occasion the incompetent fool is correct. Indeed, which is why staying at the Mem is not a viable option. I thought that the whole idea of the UWE was to take us into a different league, literally. Yes but debt free because the club already struggled to meet its overheads.
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Post by dagnogo on Jul 26, 2015 14:23:32 GMT
There are already plans for a Lidl at the old Brunel Ford site on Muller Road anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 14:26:11 GMT
There are already plans for a Lidl at the old Brunel Ford site on Muller Road anyway. And exactly the sized site that Lidl go for.
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Post by a more piratey game on Jul 26, 2015 14:39:18 GMT
There are already plans for a Lidl at the old Brunel Ford site on Muller Road anyway. And exactly the sized site that Lidl go for. a Lidler one than ours
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 14:48:45 GMT
£10m at 2% is only £200k interest a year, surely we could afford that with the vastly increased income streams? Surely like a house whoever loaned the money would offset it against the equity value? You should tell Higgs about this deal. £200,000 a year is £16,666 a month, he's paying something like £31,000 a month for £2.6m.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 14:51:07 GMT
Anyway, a curse on evil Sainsbury's, they could have paid Higgs off rather than blowing millions supporting our athletes and paralympic programme.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 26, 2015 14:53:38 GMT
£10m at 2% is only £200k interest a year, surely we could afford that with the vastly increased income streams? Surely like a house whoever loaned the money would offset it against the equity value? To make it simple. There was a trifiling little thing called the 'financial crisis' overseen by a man called Gordon 'how the hell could I have seen that coming' Brown, in fairness some deluded people blamed it on Lady Margaret Thatcher (god rest her soul) even though she hadn't been Prime Minister for nearly 20 years. After that 'financial crisis' banks decided it wasn't enough to just lend money willy nilly to anyone who had a pile of bricks and it would be a good idea to actually lend to profitable companies. At this point you should realise what our problem would be in getting a loan for £10m or more.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 15:03:47 GMT
£10m at 2% is only £200k interest a year, surely we could afford that with the vastly increased income streams? Surely like a house whoever loaned the money would offset it against the equity value? To make it simple. There was a trifiling little thing called the 'financial crisis' overseen by a man called Gordon 'how the hell could I have seen that coming' Brown, in fairness some deluded people blamed it on Lady Margaret Thatcher (god rest her soul) even though she hadn't been Prime Minister for nearly 20 years. After that 'financial crisis' banks decided it wasn't enough to just lend money willy nilly to anyone who had a pile of bricks and it would be a good idea to actually lend to profitable companies. At this point you should realise what our problem would be in getting a loan for £10m or more. There isn't some magic 20 year cut-off point for drip down of effects from previous PMs. Blair's foreign policies will haunt us and our children all their lives. There, that should get admin all twitchy and get this thread locked
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 26, 2015 15:26:54 GMT
To make it simple. There was a trifiling little thing called the 'financial crisis' overseen by a man called Gordon 'how the hell could I have seen that coming' Brown, in fairness some deluded people blamed it on Lady Margaret Thatcher (god rest her soul) even though she hadn't been Prime Minister for nearly 20 years. After that 'financial crisis' banks decided it wasn't enough to just lend money willy nilly to anyone who had a pile of bricks and it would be a good idea to actually lend to profitable companies. At this point you should realise what our problem would be in getting a loan for £10m or more. There isn't some magic 20 year cut-off point for drip down of effects from previous PMs. Blair's foreign policies will haunt us and our children all their lives. There, that should get admin all twitchy and get this thread locked Bamber you're so wrong yet again. Oldie confirmed long ago that the problems in the Middle East were all caused by decisions back in the 1920s. It's absolutely nothing to do with Tony Blair or the Turks declaring the Persians to be infidels so that they could start killing them, a past time that Muslims have enjoyed ever since.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 15:37:20 GMT
There isn't some magic 20 year cut-off point for drip down of effects from previous PMs. Blair's foreign policies will haunt us and our children all their lives. There, that should get admin all twitchy and get this thread locked Bamber you're so wrong yet again. Oldie confirmed long ago that the problems in the Middle East were all caused by decisions back in the 1920s. It's absolutely nothing to do with Tony Blair or the Turks declaring the Persians to be infidels so that they could start killing them, a past time that Muslims have enjoyed ever since. Surely you mean the Saudis rather than the Turks? Nothing to do with Rovers, but then it was a supermarket economics thread to begin with. Oh, and the financial crisis was global in scope and American in origin. Blaming Gordon Brown for it is akin to blaming Neville Chamberlain for WW2. Not their fault, they were just unlucky to have itit happen on their watch.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 16:00:52 GMT
Bamber you're so wrong yet again. Oldie confirmed long ago that the problems in the Middle East were all caused by decisions back in the 1920s. It's absolutely nothing to do with Tony Blair or the Turks declaring the Persians to be infidels so that they could start killing them, a past time that Muslims have enjoyed ever since. Surely you mean the Saudis rather than the Turks? Nothing to do with Rovers, but then it was a supermarket economics thread to begin with. Oh, and the financial crisis was global in scope and American in origin. Blaming Gordon Brown for it is akin to blaming Neville Chamberlain for WW2. Not their fault, they were just unlucky to have itit happen on their watch. Nah, all Lennie, John's and Gordon Browns fault, Higgsy said so.
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Post by alloutofgas on Jul 26, 2015 16:25:07 GMT
Lidl potato salad is delicious, and a steal at £1.40. Sainsburys, I wouldn't sh*t on em.
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Post by CountyGroundHotel on Jul 26, 2015 16:51:43 GMT
Bamber you're so wrong yet again. Oldie confirmed long ago that the problems in the Middle East were all caused by decisions back in the 1920s. It's absolutely nothing to do with Tony Blair or the Turks declaring the Persians to be infidels so that they could start killing them, a past time that Muslims have enjoyed ever since. Surely you mean the Saudis rather than the Turks? Nothing to do with Rovers, but then it was a supermarket economics thread to begin with. Oh, and the financial crisis was global in scope and American in origin. Blaming Gordon Brown for it is akin to blaming Neville Chamberlain for WW2. Not their fault, they were just unlucky to have itit happen on their watch. Nope Turks was what I mean't though they were possibly calling themselves the Ottomans back then. And unlucky? Unlucky is losing your cars keys not overseeing a financial crisis after you've spent all the money that is ineptitude that Labour specialise in. Still if Jeremy Corbyn gets elected we won't need to worry about being governed by Labour again for at least 10 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2015 16:56:33 GMT
Surely you mean the Saudis rather than the Turks? Nothing to do with Rovers, but then it was a supermarket economics thread to begin with. Oh, and the financial crisis was global in scope and American in origin. Blaming Gordon Brown for it is akin to blaming Neville Chamberlain for WW2. Not their fault, they were just unlucky to have itit happen on their watch. Nope Turks was what I mean't though they were possibly calling themselves the Ottomans back then. And unlucky? Unlucky is losing your cars keys not overseeing a financial crisis after you've spent all the money that is ineptitude that Labour specialise in. Still if Jeremy Corbyn gets elected we won't need to worry about being governed by Labour again for at least 10 years. With the new constituency boundaries we won't have a Labour government for a while. Nice one Wallace And Hariette (right on sister) Harperson isn't doing their cause any good either.
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Post by lostinspace on Jul 26, 2015 19:56:34 GMT
Bamber you're so wrong yet again. Oldie confirmed long ago that the problems in the Middle East were all caused by decisions back in the 1920s. It's absolutely nothing to do with Tony Blair or the Turks declaring the Persians to be infidels so that they could start killing them, a past time that Muslims have enjoyed ever since. Surely you mean the Saudis rather than the Turks? Nothing to do with Rovers, but then it was a supermarket economics thread to begin with. Oh, and the financial crisis was global in scope and American in origin. Blaming Gordon Brown for it is akin to blaming Neville Chamberlain for WW2. Not their fault, they were just unlucky to have itit happen on their watch. and now while the laurel and hardy of the conservatives take us minions down the garden path to poverty and the begging bowl................. they continue to line their pockets with gold
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Post by LPGas on Jul 26, 2015 20:08:52 GMT
The majority share holders in Sainsbury are from Qatar, The ones that bribed their way to the World Cup, or so I am led to believe
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Post by dagnogo on Jul 26, 2015 20:30:28 GMT
Ooh another thread turned into a Thatcher w**kathon by the usual suspect. How fun.
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Post by Gregory Stevens on Jul 27, 2015 6:08:59 GMT
Bamber you're so wrong yet again. Oldie confirmed long ago that the problems in the Middle East were all caused by decisions back in the 1920s. It's absolutely nothing to do with Tony Blair or the Turks declaring the Persians to be infidels so that they could start killing them, a past time that Muslims have enjoyed ever since. Surely you mean the Saudis rather than the Turks? Nothing to do with Rovers, but then it was a supermarket economics thread to begin with. Oh, and the financial crisis was global in scope and American in origin. Blaming Gordon Brown for it is akin to blaming Neville Chamberlain for WW2. Not their fault, they were just unlucky to have itit happen on their watch. Finger in ears economics. If your man lost, but you don't really understand what he did wrong, just deny it. There's always a cover story to repeat supplied by your newspaper. Thank god the majority of voters didn't buy the line being chancellor of the exchequer and instigator of the creation of the Fsa for 13 years has no responsibility for the biggest peacetime bust we have ever seen. He wasn't solely reesponsible but he made many, many poor calls, consistently and over a long period of time. Bankrupted 3 times and we would be very similar to greece if we'd followed labour/Russell brand economics. Truly doomed if the public believed their easy answers. It's amazing the crap people will believe and vote for, the risk they will pose to everyone for a slightly higher wage packet. Offer a roulette spin boom or bust Britain for a confirmed 3% pay rise for public servants and labour keep their core vote! And they say the Tories are nasty!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2015 6:48:57 GMT
Surely you mean the Saudis rather than the Turks? Nothing to do with Rovers, but then it was a supermarket economics thread to begin with. Oh, and the financial crisis was global in scope and American in origin. Blaming Gordon Brown for it is akin to blaming Neville Chamberlain for WW2. Not their fault, they were just unlucky to have itit happen on their watch. Finger in ears economics. If your man lost, but you don't really understand what he did wrong, just deny it. There's always a cover story to repeat supplied by your newspaper. Thank god the majority of voters didn't buy the line being chancellor of the exchequer and instigator of the creation of the Fsa for 13 years has no responsibility for the biggest peacetime bust we have ever seen. He wasn't solely reesponsible but he made many, many poor calls, consistently and over a long period of time. Bankrupted 3 times and we would be very similar to greece if we'd followed labour/Russell brand economics. Truly doomed if the public believed their easy answers. It's amazing the crap people will believe and vote for, the risk they will pose to everyone for a slightly higher wage packet. Offer a roulette spin boom or bust Britain for a confirmed 3% pay rise for public servants and labour keep their core vote! And they say the Tories are nasty! Thanks. I feel cleverer now.
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Post by interceptor on Jul 27, 2015 10:45:29 GMT
Not defending Sainsburys in any way, think they have been appalling, but having had 30 years experience of working with UK grocery - Not in the slightest bit surprised!
We are caught in the very unfortunate position (typical Rovers) of an unprecedented change in UK grocery retailing - it is hitting everyone - including the discounters. This situation will be effecting many other organisations that had anticipated their projects going ahead on the back of UK supermarkets unrelenting growth and search for larger and larger sites. Below is a small snippet from Retail week!
Tesco abandons 62 planned stores across the UK as it tries to cut costs
The number of development projects Tesco has axed is far more than those of its Big Four rivals, while booming discounters Lidl and Aldi have abandoned just four.
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