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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 22:40:00 GMT
It appears to me,though I stand to be corrected that we have less players than we had last season and we now require 7 for the bench. There are also too many unknowns and IMO we are 3 EXPERIENCED players short and when I say experienced I mean players who are at least experienced in the level we are playing. With respect to everyone do you honestly think that the squad we had last season will be good enough to do well in this division? Montana and Lines are the only players signed with League experience. It genuinely worries me that we cannot attract a player such as Myrie Williams and would be interested to know what other clubs in this division are paying for players ie Yeovil,Exeter,Plymouth,Northampton,Oxford. Whilst I appreciate that we may have had an increased budget if the Court Case had gone our way, I really do wonder just how our budget compares. I get the feeling that DC is Managing under stricter purse strings than he makes out. i think were like any team that gets promoted,we dont know for sure how our team will do at the next level up,,,it does look as if our budget is only moderate for league 2. it might be myrtle williams wanted more than dc thought he was worth whatever our budget? it would be great to see the details of the playing budget of all the teams in our league its true but in recent history both ourselves and the dreaded bristol city have struggled with good budgets so its not the be all is it?
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Post by alwaysgas on Jul 17, 2015 22:45:16 GMT
I'd be surprised if we sign Ajala as Torquay want a fee for him. Bodin will probably sign and if he does then he will probably be the last permanent addition. I think the loan market will be used for a right footed winger, and possibly a goalkeeper. Not doubting you, but why is Ajala training with us if he is still registered with Torquay? I hope you are right with Bodin - looks good so far. On loans, DC's record was pretty good last season. It's a fact of football life, particularly from the Championship down, that loanees will feature in every side. It probably wouldnt be the case if the stupid transfer window rules didn't exist. Torquay offered him a contract that he declined and he is young enough for Torquay to look for a fee.
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Post by chelt_gas on Jul 18, 2015 0:37:08 GMT
Darryl has said recently that he likes to keep a bit of the budget held back for a rainy day. This is wise as you never know where injuries occur and it would be better to fill the gap with a loan signing specialized in that position than play a full time player in an uncomfortable role.
Clubs are now in the driving seat when it comes to signing players. There are so many out of contract that the like of Myrie Williams is having a laugh to think he can hold any club to ransom. Plus he's crap.
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Post by Alveston Gas on Jul 18, 2015 8:00:30 GMT
Glad we didn't go for JMW - typical journeyman we no longer need these days. Give a younger prospect a go - not someone who was relegated with Tranny last season.
Like the sound of Bodin and or Ajala, add to that Jamie Lucas & Danny Greenslade who were excellent out on loan last season we have a half decent squad.
Think we have only lost Monky & Balata - & added Montano & James Clarke. So still room for some loan signings as the season approaches.
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Jul 18, 2015 8:14:32 GMT
I'd be surprised if we sign Ajala as Torquay want a fee for him. Bodin will probably sign and if he does then he will probably be the last permanent addition. I think the loan market will be used for a right footed winger, and possibly a goalkeeper. Not doubting you, but why is Ajala training with us if he is still registered with Torquay? I hope you are right with Bodin - looks good so far. On loans, DC's record was pretty good last season. It's a fact of football life, particularly from the Championship down, that loanees will feature in every side. It probably wouldnt be the case if the stupid transfer window rules didn't exist. Paul Cox Torquay manager said to there local press DC uses the loan system very well, new players came in on almost a monthly basis throughout the whole season keeping current squad members on there toes. Gone are the days of players not having there postion under threat which causes them to stagnate, keep the numbers ticking over was a smart move that paid off.
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Post by Bridgeman on Jul 18, 2015 8:35:18 GMT
Well I'm happy if a decision is made by our manager that a player is not good enough or is seeking over inflated wages for us not to have signed him. I'm struggling with all these new players coming in, I don't know who most of them are. Chatting to a few around me at Salisbury and Mangotsfield it appears I'm not the only one, not helped by the team sheets being handed out (which was good up to a point) not being entirely accurate. However, I enjoyed both the games I saw, some of the younger players I thought acquitted themselves quite well.
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Post by c13 on Jul 20, 2015 20:49:39 GMT
I'm sure our budget as it is can handle one or two trialists turned full-time players, can it not? Assuming they're on not too high wages...
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Post by warmleygas on Jul 20, 2015 21:06:17 GMT
So anyone think the team as it stands is good enough to be challenging at the top of league two ? Time is beginning to run out now for new signings, not convinced myself that we have all the quality needed.
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Jul 20, 2015 21:17:34 GMT
2 Years ago we played Exeter away first league game of the season under Ward, the bench that day was Conor Gough, Pat Keary, Tom Lockyer, Josh Southway, Shaq Hunter & Alfie Santos. Not forgetting Mitch Harding started the game up front !!!
In 3 weeks time for our first league game the bench will probably be, Puddy, Leadbitter, Ollie Clarke, Montano, Easter, Blissett & Bodin or New Player. The difference is huge. I have no worries about the quality of the squad, and certainly no worries about the quality of the manager. What a difference it makes when you spread your budget out, rather than lump it all on players like JJ O'Toole.
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Post by kwoodgas on Jul 20, 2015 21:31:05 GMT
2 Years ago we played Exeter away first league game of the season under Ward, the bench that day was Conor Gough, Pat Keary, Tom Lockyer, Josh Southway, Shaq Hunter & Alfie Santos. Not forgetting Mitch Harding started the game up front !!! In 3 weeks time for our first league game the bench will probably be, Puddy, Leadbitter, Ollie Clarke, Montano, Easter, Blissett & Bodin or New Player. The difference is huge. I have no worries about the quality of the squad, and certainly no worries about the quality of the manager. What a difference it makes when you spread your budget out, rather than lump it all on players like JJ O'Toole. What will our bench look like if DC has the same number of injuries as Ward had on the opening day?
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Post by Westcountry Gas on Jul 20, 2015 21:47:18 GMT
2 Years ago we played Exeter away first league game of the season under Ward, the bench that day was Conor Gough, Pat Keary, Tom Lockyer, Josh Southway, Shaq Hunter & Alfie Santos. Not forgetting Mitch Harding started the game up front !!! In 3 weeks time for our first league game the bench will probably be, Puddy, Leadbitter, Ollie Clarke, Montano, Easter, Blissett & Bodin or New Player. The difference is huge. I have no worries about the quality of the squad, and certainly no worries about the quality of the manager. What a difference it makes when you spread your budget out, rather than lump it all on players like JJ O'Toole. What will our bench look like if DC has the same number of injuries as Ward had on the opening day? How many injures were there? The transfer policy that season was piss all the money away on players with a glossy CV, and let the kids make up the numbers, we had far to small a squad all season with no money/FFP rules to add that many more new players. I would have a fairly good guess that Puddy, Leadbitter, Blissett & Sinclairs combined weekly wage is what JJ O'Toole was earning.
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Post by kwoodgas on Jul 20, 2015 22:05:16 GMT
Errm Harrold, Clucas, Broghammer, Patterson, Brunt, Ollie Clarke, Gill, Kenneth. Imagine at least 6 of those would've started and all made the squad at least.
How much of DC's budget last season was spent on Balanta and Easter and their glossy CV's. At least we got 15 goals from JJOT's massive wages.
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Post by warmleygas on Jul 20, 2015 22:48:06 GMT
Errm Harrold, Clucas, Broghammer, Patterson, Brunt, Ollie Clarke, Gill, Kenneth. Imagine at least 6 of those would've started and all made the squad at least. How much of DC's budget last season was spent on Balanta and Easter and their glossy CV's. At least we got 15 goals from JJOT's massive wages.
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Post by warmleygas on Jul 20, 2015 22:51:14 GMT
Errm Harrold, Clucas, Broghammer, Patterson, Brunt, Ollie Clarke, Gill, Kenneth. Imagine at least 6 of those would've started and all made the squad at least. How much of DC's budget last season was spent on Balanta and Easter and their glossy CV's. At least we got 15 goals from JJOT's massive wages. I think we had good players in the relegation season, the team was good enough to be a top half finisher but I guess it was discipline and team spirit that was lacking. I don't think we have so much better players now and I think there are gaps that need filling before the start of the season.
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Post by alwaysgas on Jul 21, 2015 0:31:12 GMT
Errm Harrold, Clucas, Broghammer, Patterson, Brunt, Ollie Clarke, Gill, Kenneth. Imagine at least 6 of those would've started and all made the squad at least. How much of DC's budget last season was spent on Balanta and Easter and their glossy CV's. At least we got 15 goals from JJOT's massive wages. Do you actually watch any games?
The only player from that lot that would make the bench this season is Ollie Clarke and if for once he has an injury free season he may even end up as a starter.
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Post by c13 on Jul 21, 2015 4:30:05 GMT
Errm Harrold, Clucas, Broghammer, Patterson, Brunt, Ollie Clarke, Gill, Kenneth. Imagine at least 6 of those would've started and all made the squad at least. How much of DC's budget last season was spent on Balanta and Easter and their glossy CV's. At least we got 15 goals from JJOT's massive wages. All name, no game. You can't be seriously trying to state that Broghammers and Patersons are equal to Sinclairs and Leadbitters. And even Balanta/Easter have a promotion with BRFC on their CV's, whereas these people have a relegation and countless injuries. JJOT has 15 goals, Balanta has what, two(?), but football is about 11 players. And each of our current players - as opposed to those - play for each other, even if a couple of them ended up not doing much. I don't think our team will fight for promotion, but I can rest my head easier now knowing that injuries will not be as much of a problem and relegation is very unlikely. Also most of the players you named suck. I mean, Kenneth? Gill? Holy....... I'm just glad I never have to hear those names ever again during a match.
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Post by kwoodgas on Jul 21, 2015 17:02:01 GMT
Errm Harrold, Clucas, Broghammer, Patterson, Brunt, Ollie Clarke, Gill, Kenneth. Imagine at least 6 of those would've started and all made the squad at least. How much of DC's budget last season was spent on Balanta and Easter and their glossy CV's. At least we got 15 goals from JJOT's massive wages. Do you actually watch any games?
The only player from that lot that would make the bench this season is Ollie Clarke and if for once he has an injury free season he may even end up as a starter.
Did you read my post at all?
I'm merely stating you can't have a dig at Wardy for having a bench of kids when he had 8 players out for the first game. To date it looks like DC will have one (McCrystal). Let's say Harrison, Taylor, Gosling, Brown, Ollie Clarke, Sinclair and Lockyer are heaven forbid injured for the first game our bench will be made up of the kids who got dicked by Paulton last night.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 17:24:01 GMT
Do you actually watch any games?
The only player from that lot that would make the bench this season is Ollie Clarke and if for once he has an injury free season he may even end up as a starter.
Did you read my post at all?
I'm merely stating you can't have a dig at Wardy for having a bench of kids when he had 8 players out for the first game. To date it looks like DC will have one (McCrystal). Let's say Harrison, Taylor, Gosling, Brown, Ollie Clarke, Sinclair and Lockyer are heaven forbid injured for the first game our bench will be made up of the kids who got dicked by Paulton last night.
Its a totally different kettle of fish this time around. Ward had money and a big budget and we know the rest. Darrel Clarke on the other hand was left with the Ward legacy, a massively reduced budget and the circumstances from previous years of mad wages/contracts which dictate the present low budget. Apart from the Lines extravagance which has paid for itself, the low budgets for Darrel Clarke dictate the size of squad etc.
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Post by kwoodgas on Jul 21, 2015 18:05:09 GMT
Did you read my post at all?
I'm merely stating you can't have a dig at Wardy for having a bench of kids when he had 8 players out for the first game. To date it looks like DC will have one (McCrystal). Let's say Harrison, Taylor, Gosling, Brown, Ollie Clarke, Sinclair and Lockyer are heaven forbid injured for the first game our bench will be made up of the kids who got dicked by Paulton last night.
Its a totally different kettle of fish this time around. Ward had money and a big budget and we know the rest. Darrel Clarke on the other hand was left with the Ward legacy, a massively reduced budget and the circumstances from previous years of mad wages/contracts which dictate the present low budget. Apart from the Lines extravagance which has paid for itself, the low budgets for Darrel Clarke dictate the size of squad etc.
Did Ward have a big budget or was he shafted by the players his predecessors left him with. His marquee signings (Mildenhall, McCrystal, JJOT) were hardly protagonists in getting relegated.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2015 18:53:13 GMT
Its a totally different kettle of fish this time around. Ward had money and a big budget and we know the rest. Darrel Clarke on the other hand was left with the Ward legacy, a massively reduced budget and the circumstances from previous years of mad wages/contracts which dictate the present low budget. Apart from the Lines extravagance which has paid for itself, the low budgets for Darrel Clarke dictate the size of squad etc.
Did Ward have a big budget or was he shafted by the players his predecessors left him with. His marquee signings (Mildenhall, McCrystal, JJOT) were hardly protagonists in getting relegated. Well he chased one player like an infatuated schoolgirl and gave him most of his budget!! The rest is history. As for being shafted he got off lightly compared to Trollope and Penney. Ward reaped what he sowed with OToole I'm afraid. changing room unrest caused by OToole and schoolboy attitude on the pitch suggests he was a protagonist in The a Rovers Getting relegated. Along with him not wanting a striker because we didn't need one!
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