Smithy Gas
Craig Hinton
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Post by Smithy Gas on Jul 14, 2015 14:07:45 GMT
Any chance of another Q&A session? Think it was to be just into the season... Higgs never said which season! So only a month or so to wait.
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Bridgeman
Alfie Biggs
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Post by Bridgeman on Jul 14, 2015 21:43:53 GMT
This reaction shows that some people will stand up for failure whatever happens. Multiple relegations, lies about stadium moves, failed stadium moves, record debts and crushing of any attempts at fan involvement aren't enough.I love the old "if you don't like them buy the club" s***e. I hope you've never disagreed with the Government then, otherwise you'd better run for Prime Minister. Most people, given the pure luck that Higgs had with the Cowlin buyout, know that they can't run a football club well and wouldn't invest. Unlike someone. Sounds like most clubs in the lower leagues to me I Wonder if they have a HA Club as well I think expressing a view that this club is badly run can't really be classed as 'hidden' anymore do you ?
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dagnogo
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Post by dagnogo on Jul 14, 2015 22:05:26 GMT
Sounds like most clubs in the lower leagues to me I Wonder if they have a HA Club as well I think expressing a view that this club is badly run can't really be classed as 'hidden' anymore do you ? Well said. What makes me laugh is that Henbury thinks some fans hae a hidden agenda to make the club fail - if they did, they'd just leave it to the professionals who are doing a great job of it.
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Bridgeman
Alfie Biggs
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Post by Bridgeman on Jul 14, 2015 22:14:45 GMT
I think expressing a view that this club is badly run can't really be classed as 'hidden' anymore do you ? Well said. What makes me laugh is that Henbury thinks some fans hae a hidden agenda to make the club fail - if they did, they'd just leave it to the professionals who are doing a great job of it. Ha, ha,.....exactly they don't need us to do it for them, they're doing a damn fine job of it themselves.....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 23:35:45 GMT
dont panic, henbury will be along to tell us all about his mates contacts and the american venue management mob building the arena
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Bridgeman
Alfie Biggs
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Post by Bridgeman on Jul 14, 2015 23:45:43 GMT
dont panic, henbury will be along to tell us all about his mates contacts and the american venue management mob building the arena Excellent news........at last a viable alternative......
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 23:48:58 GMT
dont panic, henbury will be along to tell us all about his mates contacts and the american venue management mob building the arena Excellent news........at last a viable alternative...... Don't worry he's bound to get one right eventually.
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LPGas
Stuart Taylor
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Post by LPGas on Jul 15, 2015 8:36:01 GMT
I thoght it was a very good interview from NH in the cicumstances. The knee jerk reactions on this forum show why nobody on here has been successful enough to buy the club. of course he should listen to legal advice before deciding what to do. He could of course bring in investors to help build the UWE at a price per share that would increase if the appeal is won. and where are these investors coming from? and why would they be interested in us, a club with a s**te ground? and would we really want a foreigner who has NO idea about football. Lets face it the club was better off when Dunford was in charge, but he was hounded everyday by people on the old forum. So who are they and where are they? And please don't go back to Mr Spencer, as he doesn't have enough money either
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Peter Parker
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 15, 2015 8:37:58 GMT
I thoght it was a very good interview from NH in the cicumstances. The knee jerk reactions on this forum show why nobody on here has been successful enough to buy the club. of course he should listen to legal advice before deciding what to do. He could of course bring in investors to help build the UWE at a price per share that would increase if the appeal is won. and where are these investors coming from? and why would they be interested in us, a club with a s***e ground? and would we really want a foreigner who has NO idea about football. Lets face it the club was better off when Dunford was in charge, but he was hounded everyday by people on the old forum. So who are they and where are they? And please don't go back to Mr Spencer, as he doesn't have enough money either Yeah we could have a foreigner who knows nothing about football, or keep the builder we have who doesn't know anything either.
Are 'foreigners' not allowed to like football? last time I checked it was played all over the world.
Do they not play it right or something?
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dagnogo
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Post by dagnogo on Jul 15, 2015 8:40:07 GMT
I thoght it was a very good interview from NH in the cicumstances. The knee jerk reactions on this forum show why nobody on here has been successful enough to buy the club. of course he should listen to legal advice before deciding what to do. He could of course bring in investors to help build the UWE at a price per share that would increase if the appeal is won. and where are these investors coming from? and why would they be interested in us, a club with a s***e ground? and would we really want a foreigner who has NO idea about football. Lets face it the club was better off when Dunford was in charge, but he was hounded everyday by people on the old forum. So who are they and where are they? And please don't go back to Mr Spencer, as he doesn't have enough money either How is an Englishman with no idea about football any better? Remember, Geoff brought Higgs in and didn't stand in the way when debts were accruing due to bad management. Geoff also led the club to the point where the share scheme had to bail us out.
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LPGas
Stuart Taylor
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Post by LPGas on Jul 15, 2015 8:42:31 GMT
and where are these investors coming from? and why would they be interested in us, a club with a s***e ground? and would we really want a foreigner who has NO idea about football. Lets face it the club was better off when Dunford was in charge, but he was hounded everyday by people on the old forum. So who are they and where are they? And please don't go back to Mr Spencer, as he doesn't have enough money either Yeah we could have a foreigner who knows nothing about football, or keep the builder we have who doesn't know anything either.
Are 'foreigners' not allowed to like football? last time I checked it was played all over the world.
Do they not play it right or something?
Of course I am not saying that, but you only have to look at Notts County; Blackburn, and Portsmouth to see that "foreign investment" isn't what it's all cracked up to be, and lets add the fact that they all have better grounds than us
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LPGas
Stuart Taylor
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Post by LPGas on Jul 15, 2015 8:51:16 GMT
and where are these investors coming from? and why would they be interested in us, a club with a s***e ground? and would we really want a foreigner who has NO idea about football. Lets face it the club was better off when Dunford was in charge, but he was hounded everyday by people on the old forum. So who are they and where are they? And please don't go back to Mr Spencer, as he doesn't have enough money either How is an Englishman with no idea about football any better? Remember, Geoff brought Higgs in and didn't stand in the way when debts were accruing due to bad management. Geoff also led the club to the point where the share scheme had to bail us out. We have a s**te ground and need a new one. Cost 40 million less what we can get for ours. Plus we are in the bottom division of the football league. Foreign investors, or at least those with the cash to build the ground will be looking at a bigger club higher up the league. £40 million can buy a lot of good players. I am no lover of Higgs, he has no idea of running this club, I agree, BUT at the moment we have one more chance of shafting Sainsburys back by appealing. Another judge might well side with us, it is worth going for. Personally I am just a person that never gives up on things until you come to the high brick wall, and even then I look to go around it or pick a hole in it. Some people give up too easily
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 15, 2015 9:06:09 GMT
How is an Englishman with no idea about football any better? Remember, Geoff brought Higgs in and didn't stand in the way when debts were accruing due to bad management. Geoff also led the club to the point where the share scheme had to bail us out. We have a s***e ground and need a new one. Cost 40 million less what we can get for ours. Plus we are in the bottom division of the football league. Foreign investors, or at least those with the cash to build the ground will be looking at a bigger club higher up the league. £40 million can buy a lot of good players. I am no lover of Higgs, he has no idea of running this club, I agree, BUT at the moment we have one more chance of shafting Sainsburys back by appealing. Another judge might well side with us, it is worth going for. Personally I am just a person that never gives up on things until you come to the high brick wall, and even then I look to go around it or pick a hole in it. Some people give up too easily
Someone somewhere used the gambling saying of never chase your losses? We gambled and lost. We have 2m quid to pay back by the end.of the year yet no onw seems to ask where that money is coming from, whilst advocating chucking more money at something that could take over a year to.be heard
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dagnogo
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Post by dagnogo on Jul 15, 2015 16:44:50 GMT
How is an Englishman with no idea about football any better? Remember, Geoff brought Higgs in and didn't stand in the way when debts were accruing due to bad management. Geoff also led the club to the point where the share scheme had to bail us out. We have a s***e ground and need a new one. Cost 40 million less what we can get for ours. Plus we are in the bottom division of the football league. Foreign investors, or at least those with the cash to build the ground will be looking at a bigger club higher up the league. £40 million can buy a lot of good players. I am no lover of Higgs, he has no idea of running this club, I agree, BUT at the moment we have one more chance of shafting Sainsburys back by appealing. Another judge might well side with us, it is worth going for. Personally I am just a person that never gives up on things until you come to the high brick wall, and even then I look to go around it or pick a hole in it. Some people give up too easily
Giving up easily, or not increasing the debt by another half a million?
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Thatslife
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Post by Thatslife on Jul 16, 2015 7:19:35 GMT
I thoght it was a very good interview from NH in the cicumstances. The knee jerk reactions on this forum show why nobody on here has been successful enough to buy the club. of course he should listen to legal advice before deciding what to do. He could of course bring in investors to help build the UWE at a price per share that would increase if the appeal is won. He had top legal advisors and the opinion of 3 retired judges who all advised he had a good case, so what was he supposed to do, ignore all the legal advice? Would you if you were buying a house? Get real Nick did what he assessed as the best course of action and for that he is being crucified on here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 7:23:57 GMT
I thoght it was a very good interview from NH in the cicumstances. The knee jerk reactions on this forum show why nobody on here has been successful enough to buy the club. of course he should listen to legal advice before deciding what to do. He could of course bring in investors to help build the UWE at a price per share that would increase if the appeal is won. He had top legal advisors and the opinion of 3 retired judges who all advised he had a good case, so what was he supposed to do, ignore all the legal advice? Would you if you were buying a house? Get real Nick did what he assessed as the best course of action and for that he is being crucified on here. Perhaps, but is not the bigger issue that both Higgs and Witola both did not understand the contract they signed?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 7:54:21 GMT
He had top legal advisors and the opinion of 3 retired judges who all advised he had a good case, so what was he supposed to do, ignore all the legal advice? Would you if you were buying a house? Get real Nick did what he assessed as the best course of action and for that he is being crucified on here. Perhaps, but is not the bigger issue that both Higgs and Witola both did not understand the contract they signed? And admitted in court that they thought it was OK to seek to alter the terms of the contract.
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Post by eppinggas on Jul 16, 2015 7:57:31 GMT
I thoght it was a very good interview from NH in the cicumstances. The knee jerk reactions on this forum show why nobody on here has been successful enough to buy the club. of course he should listen to legal advice before deciding what to do. He could of course bring in investors to help build the UWE at a price per share that would increase if the appeal is won. He had top legal advisors and the opinion of 3 retired judges who all advised he had a good case, so what was he supposed to do, ignore all the legal advice? Would you if you were buying a house? Get real Nick did what he assessed as the best course of action and for that he is being crucified on here. Really? You know that for a fact? How come on Day 3 of the Court Hearing I was told by senior legal counsel that we had little chance of success - and that we were relying on the Judge to interpret 'bad faith' as bad enough to trample over the letter of the law (ie nullify the contract THAT WE SIGNED). The conclusion I can draw is that either 1. The legal advice was patently wrong. But that is not consistent with what I was told in Court. 2. The legal advice was NOT to pursue shamesbury's through the Courts - but the Board decided to over-rule that.
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 16, 2015 8:08:52 GMT
He had top legal advisors and the opinion of 3 retired judges who all advised he had a good case, so what was he supposed to do, ignore all the legal advice? Would you if you were buying a house? Get real Nick did what he assessed as the best course of action and for that he is being crucified on here. Really? You know that for a fact? How come on Day 3 of the Court Hearing I was told by senior legal counsel that we had little chance of success - and that we were relying on the Judge to interpret 'bad faith' as bad enough to trample over the letter of the law (ie nullify the contract THAT WE SIGNED). The conclusion I can draw is that either 1. The legal advice was patently wrong. But that is not consistent with what I was told in Court. 2. The legal advice was NOT to pursue shamesbury's through the Courts - but the Board decided to over-rule that. and the worrying thing is, that we talk of appeal.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 8:13:01 GMT
He had top legal advisors and the opinion of 3 retired judges who all advised he had a good case, so what was he supposed to do, ignore all the legal advice? Would you if you were buying a house? Get real Nick did what he assessed as the best course of action and for that he is being crucified on here. Really? You know that for a fact? How come on Day 3 of the Court Hearing I was told by senior legal counsel that we had little chance of success - and that we were relying on the Judge to interpret 'bad faith' as bad enough to trample over the letter of the law (ie nullify the contract THAT WE SIGNED). The conclusion I can draw is that either 1. The legal advice was patently wrong. But that is not consistent with what I was told in Court. 2. The legal advice was NOT to pursue shamesbury's through the Courts - but the Board decided to over-rule that. Even if Judy had ruled in our favour, Sainsbury's would have appealed.
I doubt that Higgs was advised on a course of action, more likely he was just told, in the opinion of his legal team, what the likelihood of success was.
Wonder who these 3 retired judges are. Guess the fact that we lost is their fault?
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