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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 9:37:04 GMT
That seems about to sum it up I reckon, although I'm not too sure about the 'trust in' bit, I think I'd substitute 'suffer with' ? Of course, if you know of a viable alternative, please get in touch with Nick pronto please so you can put many of us out of our misery and probably Nick too. Bridgey, such is mine, yours and thousands of others loyalty to the FC that causes endless hours of worry it did get me thinking about solutions, much has been said in the past about if 1000 people paid x in advance or 2000 people paid y in advance it would generate £m's, the level of trust is in the minus scale for the majority as NH seems incapable of stringing a sentence together that feels like the truth. So having read what lots of people are thinking about in using there own time to protest against Sainsburys it got me thinking, one thing that so many fans used to be good at prior to current and past directors splitting the fan base was contributing their time on a voluntary basis, so a potential solution that woke me up in the middle of last night (yes very sad to be dreaming about it) was for a group of organised fans to do the marketing of the club as being up for sale, and look for online places where investors can be found, there has to be between say 20-30 people willing to generate publicity online publicity for the FC, given that people are willing to generate bad publicity for Sainsburys why not just use the energy to get the name of the club out there, i'm sure i'm not the only person who works in online sales and marketing and wants to see the club rescued from its current predicament. The fact that Samuelsen was at the stadium means that the entire world is aware of our position already.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 9:43:53 GMT
Bridgey, such is mine, yours and thousands of others loyalty to the FC that causes endless hours of worry it did get me thinking about solutions, much has been said in the past about if 1000 people paid x in advance or 2000 people paid y in advance it would generate £m's, the level of trust is in the minus scale for the majority as NH seems incapable of stringing a sentence together that feels like the truth. So having read what lots of people are thinking about in using there own time to protest against Sainsburys it got me thinking, one thing that so many fans used to be good at prior to current and past directors splitting the fan base was contributing their time on a voluntary basis, so a potential solution that woke me up in the middle of last night (yes very sad to be dreaming about it) was for a group of organised fans to do the marketing of the club as being up for sale, and look for online places where investors can be found, there has to be between say 20-30 people willing to generate publicity online publicity for the FC, given that people are willing to generate bad publicity for Sainsburys why not just use the energy to get the name of the club out there, i'm sure i'm not the only person who works in online sales and marketing and wants to see the club rescued from its current predicament. The fact that Samuelsen was at the stadium means that the entire world is aware of our position already. Good point Bamber, totally forgot about him, that's MS for you, memory goes to pieces from time to time! It would be interesting to know how he is marketing this idea, and how can we be sure he is covering all bases?
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Post by fanatical on Jul 15, 2015 9:48:14 GMT
it doesn't matter now, re Sainsburys, does it. I do recall speculation as to how they could get out of it and the question was asked if there was a time limit in the contract. But of course none of us actually knew. Given that Judge picked it out, I am surprised that the clubs own lawyers did not. Perhaps they did but the nebulous "Best Efforts" argument prevailed. Astonishing as that is, almost as astonishing that Higgs and Watola did not realise. We knew there was a time limit which is why we issued the earlier writ - to force Sainsburys into action
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 9:53:52 GMT
The fact that Samuelsen was at the stadium means that the entire world is aware of our position already. Good point Bamber, totally forgot about him, that's MS for you, memory goes to pieces from time to time! It would be interesting to know how he is marketing this idea, and how can we be sure he is covering all bases? Sorry to hear about your condition, no fun whatsoever Samuelsen moves in circles with wealthy people. Our relegation last year was headline news in the domestic football world (well done Higgs and the rest of the BoD). The defeat in court was national news. The vultures will be circling already. But wealthy people are wealthy for a reason (unless of course they win the lottery or inherit cash or a business that they can sell), nobody will take the liability off of Higgs' hands until they are confident that the value has hit rock bottom.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 10:09:04 GMT
Good point Bamber, totally forgot about him, that's MS for you, memory goes to pieces from time to time! It would be interesting to know how he is marketing this idea, and how can we be sure he is covering all bases? Sorry to hear about your condition, no fun whatsoever Samuelsen moves in circles with wealthy people. Our relegation last year was headline news in the domestic football world (well done Higgs and the rest of the BoD). The defeat in court was national news. The vultures will be circling already. But wealthy people are wealthy for a reason (unless of course they win the lottery or inherit cash or a business that they can sell), nobody will take the liability off of Higgs' hands until they are confident that the value has hit rock bottom. It's the relapsing remitting form so still get plenty of good days and had it for 9 years so well used to the pitfalls, manage to mostly live a normal(ish) life. I see where you are coming from RE investors, it's the waiting game now IMO, and waiting for more disasters to strike before changes take place.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 10:14:03 GMT
Sorry to hear about your condition, no fun whatsoever Samuelsen moves in circles with wealthy people. Our relegation last year was headline news in the domestic football world (well done Higgs and the rest of the BoD). The defeat in court was national news. The vultures will be circling already. But wealthy people are wealthy for a reason (unless of course they win the lottery or inherit cash or a business that they can sell), nobody will take the liability off of Higgs' hands until they are confident that the value has hit rock bottom. It's the relapsing remitting form so still get plenty of good days and had it for 9 years so well used to the pitfalls, manage to mostly live a normal(ish) life. I see where you are coming from RE investors, it's the waiting game now IMO, and waiting for more disasters to strike before changes take place. It doesn't have to mean waiting for more disasters (but it does sound as if Higgs is cooking one up if he appeals) what it takes is for Higgs to realise that the FC, run as it is, is a liability that will eventually bankrupt him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 10:19:52 GMT
It's the relapsing remitting form so still get plenty of good days and had it for 9 years so well used to the pitfalls, manage to mostly live a normal(ish) life. I see where you are coming from RE investors, it's the waiting game now IMO, and waiting for more disasters to strike before changes take place. It doesn't have to mean waiting for more disasters (but it does sound as if Higgs is cooking one up if he appeals) what it takes is for Higgs to realise that the FC, run as it is, is a liability that will eventually bankrupt him. Sounds identical to a conversation I had the other night, at what point does a sane person say enough is enough, time to cut loose, take a loss and let someone else take over, only one life to live and his is disaster after disaster which he has heavily contributed towards, I would think Mrs Higgs is sick of it all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 11:56:57 GMT
it doesn't matter now, re Sainsburys, does it. I do recall speculation as to how they could get out of it and the question was asked if there was a time limit in the contract. But of course none of us actually knew. Given that Judge picked it out, I am surprised that the clubs own lawyers did not. Perhaps they did but the nebulous "Best Efforts" argument prevailed. Astonishing as that is, almost as astonishing that Higgs and Watola did not realise. We knew there was a time limit which is why we issued the earlier writ - to force Sainsburys into action Oh right, must have missed it. Wasn't the writ issued after the deadline had passed?
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Post by Peter Parker on Jul 15, 2015 12:16:30 GMT
it doesn't matter now, re Sainsburys, does it. I do recall speculation as to how they could get out of it and the question was asked if there was a time limit in the contract. But of course none of us actually knew. Given that Judge picked it out, I am surprised that the clubs own lawyers did not. Perhaps they did but the nebulous "Best Efforts" argument prevailed. Astonishing as that is, almost as astonishing that Higgs and Watola did not realise. We knew there was a time limit which is why we issued the earlier writ - to force Sainsburys into action but if I am getting the dates right in my head, by that time it was too late.
Sainsbury's had already applied once (and failed) as they were obliged to with our approval
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 12:19:48 GMT
We knew there was a time limit which is why we issued the earlier writ - to force Sainsburys into action Oh right, must have missed it. Wasn't the writ issued after the deadline had passed?
The only action that the writ forced was that it made Sainsbury's prove what they had already claimed, namely that they were entitled to walk away from an expired contract.
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Post by manchestergas on Jul 15, 2015 13:55:21 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 13:59:31 GMT
Pathetic. Like following an ex-girlfrind around.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 14:21:05 GMT
Pathetic. Like following an ex-girlfrind around. But funny all the same.
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Post by billyocean on Jul 15, 2015 14:21:48 GMT
Pathetic. Like following an ex-girlfrind around. I disagree. I quite like this idea, particularly with the taking a photo just before you abandon it. I'll do a few in London whilst up here if I get chance
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Post by billyocean on Jul 15, 2015 14:22:42 GMT
We need a standard template to print and leave with abandoned goods
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 14:33:06 GMT
We need a standard template to print and leave with abandoned goods Preferably sat on frozen and chilled goods not dry goods.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 14:37:03 GMT
Just remember use the big trolleys guys.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 14:43:00 GMT
The first stadium plan, fully funded, with all protests dealt with and planning permission sorted was handed to Higgs on a plate. The next one, who thought of it? Look Higgs in the eye and ask him if it was his idea.If you are talking about the UWE then I know who thought of it. And who put a lot of time and effort in before it became local `knowledge`. And that was around the same time Redrow built the first of many houses on that development. Around 6/7 years ago?? Maybe longer, the memory is fading!! The Mem development tho wasn't that cut and dried to be fair was it?
So Bamber, who`s idea was the UWE???
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Post by billyocean on Jul 15, 2015 14:43:29 GMT
I think a more subtle calling card like the blue and white quarters and no text would work better
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2015 14:50:46 GMT
We need a standard template to print and leave with abandoned goods Preferably sat on frozen and chilled goods not dry goods. Bollocks. That's just deliberately spoiling food, which ought to be a crime in itself.
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