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Post by crater on May 20, 2015 19:36:35 GMT
And forgetting the obvious...i.e. Mansell's penalty at Wembley...
What was the key defining moment of our season?
For me it was Stuart Sinclair's injury at Gateshead.
Now I love the bearded one and I love his energy, passion and work rate but if he hadn't got injured, would we have still brought in Chris Lines?
Theres little doubt that Lines added something considerable to our team and he gave us a dimension we did not previously have.
Would the board have still sanctioned Lines' loan, on League 1 wages when we already had 2 very capable and talented midfielders at the club who had performed well both individually and as a duo?
I think probably not and for this reason I say Sinclair's injury at Gateshead was a season defining moment.
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Post by Bridgeman on May 20, 2015 19:43:06 GMT
And forgetting the obvious...i.e. Mansell's penalty at Wembley... What was the key defining moment of our season? For me it was Stuart Sinclair's injury at Gateshead. Now I love the bearded one and I love his energy, passion and work rate but if he hadn't got injured, would we have still brought in Chris Lines? Theres little doubt that Lines added something considerable to our team and he gave us a dimension we did not previously have. Would the board have still sanctioned Lines' loan, on League 1 wages when we already had 2 very capable and talented midfielders at the club who had performed well both individually and as a duo? I think probably not and for this reason I say Sinclair's injury at Gateshead was a season defining moment. Yes we've discussed that quite a few times in our car journeys to various matches, we've come to the conclusion we probably would have because we had no one who could pick a pass or glide through the game and control it like he has done. Loved Stuart and his enthusiasm but running around a lot didn't provide the creativity we required. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 20, 2015 20:06:53 GMT
Absolutely agree with both posts.
For me, something happened at Braintree that never happened again (apart from the obvious). We were comprehensively turned over and deserved to lose - which was what we had seen previous season - but players gave up and looked non interested. Not all of them, just that was overriding tone.
I questioned commitment and application.
I didn't see the lack of response again, and wonder what happened to make us difficult to score against and beat ?
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Post by Bridgeman on May 20, 2015 20:25:28 GMT
Absolutely agree with both posts. For me, something happened at Braintree that never happened again (apart from the obvious). We were comprehensively turned over and deserved to lose - which was what we had seen previous season - but players gave up and looked non interested. Not all of them, just that was overriding tone. I questioned commitment and application. I didn't see the lack of response again, and wonder what happened to make us difficult to score against and beat ? Wasn't it around that time the Mayan Skull appeared from the ether ? |
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Post by dickgherkin on May 20, 2015 20:37:23 GMT
Absolute sacrilege. Without Sinclair we would never have been in the chase for the title, and so Lines would never have come (why would he if we were chasing for 5th?)
Game after game, in the middle of the season, he carried the team on his back.
From the Blackthorn I might not have seen the dimensions, but I did feel the tempo and the atmosphere lift every time he harried a midfielder or played a give-and-go. For me, despite the injury, he was player of the season, because without him there would have been no Wembley
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 21:07:31 GMT
Absolutely agree with both posts. For me, something happened at Braintree that never happened again (apart from the obvious). We were comprehensively turned over and deserved to lose - which was what we had seen previous season - but players gave up and looked non interested. Not all of them, just that was overriding tone. I questioned commitment and application. I didn't see the lack of response again, and wonder what happened to make us difficult to score against and beat ? Isn't Mansell on record as saying that after Braintree the players sat down and discussed amongst themselves what they wanted out of this season? That it was then that a bit more steel was inserted, a determination not to get beaten, a focus on what it was going to take to get where they wanted to be. Later in the season, Halifax away stands out. That was where it became completely crystal clear that this side just don't do losing. They showed it again last Sunday. Not playing well? OK, it happens, but we're still not going to get beat. |
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Post by gass on May 20, 2015 21:08:49 GMT
Looking back at our season, I really think that our defining moment may have come at a very early stage.
I believe that Harrison's last minute winner in our 3-2 victory at Lincoln in September was a huge confidence boost for the side. We blew a 2 goal lead in that game, and Lee Brown missed a 89th minute penalty, with the score at 2-2. If we had not won, the team morale would have surely been rock bottom.
Ellis's goal gave us out first away victory if the season, and started our rise up the table.
Obviously, we'll never know, but I do look back and wonder what sort of pressure DC would have been under had we not won that game?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 21:16:30 GMT
Absolute sacrilege. Without Sinclair we would never have been in the chase for the title, and so Lines would never have come (why would he if we were chasing for 5th?) Game after game, in the middle of the season, he carried the team on his back. From the Blackthorn I might not have seen the dimensions, but I did feel the tempo and the atmosphere lift every time he harried a midfielder or played a give-and-go. For me, despite the injury, he was player of the season, because without him there would have been no Wembley Had Puddy not thrown the ball into his own net there wouldn't have been a capacity home crowd against FGR or Wembley, and we would be around half a million quid poorer  He should ask for a bonus. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 20, 2015 21:24:57 GMT
Absolutely agree with both posts. For me, something happened at Braintree that never happened again (apart from the obvious). We were comprehensively turned over and deserved to lose - which was what we had seen previous season - but players gave up and looked non interested. Not all of them, just that was overriding tone. I questioned commitment and application. I didn't see the lack of response again, and wonder what happened to make us difficult to score against and beat ? Isn't Mansell on record as saying that after Braintree the players sat down and discussed amongst themselves what they wanted out of this season? That it was then that a bit more steel was inserted, a determination not to get beaten, a focus on what it was going to take to get where they wanted to be. Later in the season, Halifax away stands out. That was where it became completely crystal clear that this side just don't do losing. They showed it again last Sunday. Not playing well? OK, it happens, but we're still not going to get beat. Great from Manse. Didn't know that, thanks Gandy.. |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 20, 2015 21:42:41 GMT
Think something also changed on the coaching front after Braintree and SY really got involved from the bench.
It was noticeable on Sunday that SY does far more touchline coaching than MS.
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Post by Bridgeman on May 20, 2015 21:57:54 GMT
Absolute sacrilege. Without Sinclair we would never have been in the chase for the title, and so Lines would never have come (why would he if we were chasing for 5th?) Game after game, in the middle of the season, he carried the team on his back. From the Blackthorn I might not have seen the dimensions, but I did feel the tempo and the atmosphere lift every time he harried a midfielder or played a give-and-go. For me, despite the injury, he was player of the season, because without him there would have been no Wembley Had Puddy not thrown the ball into his own net there wouldn't have been a capacity home crowd against FGR or Wembley, and we would be around half a million quid poorer He should ask for a bonus. You naughty boy Bamber, wash your mouth out with soap and water  Although in actual fact I think you make a very good point, I wonder how much Barnet got for winning the league and if it was less than what we raised from the play off games including Wembley, Toni probably hasn't finished adding it up yet ! |
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Post by dagnogo on May 20, 2015 22:10:27 GMT
I'd say Gateshead at home. Looked beaten (twice), 2nd best, crowd on Clarke's back.
The spirit and unity behind the manager were there for all to see, plus the manager's tactical changes showed that, despite what some thought, he could change a game.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on May 20, 2015 22:18:37 GMT
I'd say Gateshead at home. Looked beaten (twice), 2nd best, crowd on Clarke's back. The spirit and unity behind the manager were there for all to see, plus the manager's tactical changes showed that, despite what some thought, he could change a game. ....and Sinclair's foul on the edge of the wall so Mansell free kick could find the corner.. *wink!* |
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Post by Bridgeman on May 20, 2015 22:45:48 GMT
Matty Taylor's supposed simulated dive in the penalty box on Sunday, that could have been season changing if he had skipped past the goalie and put the ball in the net. I don't think we would have conceded if we had gone in front, we are so resolute and trained in the art of defending I think we could have been there until midnight and they wouldn't have scored, glad we weren't though |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 22:52:17 GMT
Matty Taylor's supposed simulated dive in the penalty box on Sunday, that could have been season changing if he had skipped past the goalie and put the ball in the net. I don't think we would have conceded if we had gone in front, we are so resolute and trained in the art of defending I think we could have been there until midnight and they wouldn't have scored, glad we weren't though Anyone got a link to fottage of that 'tap tackle'? |
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Post by Bridgeman on May 20, 2015 23:04:22 GMT
Matty Taylor's supposed simulated dive in the penalty box on Sunday, that could have been season changing if he had skipped past the goalie and put the ball in the net. I don't think we would have conceded if we had gone in front, we are so resolute and trained in the art of defending I think we could have been there until midnight and they wouldn't have scored, glad we weren't though Anyone got a link to fottage of that 'tap tackle'? Not technically gifted to do that but there is definite contact by the goalie on Matty, not an obvious one but he catches the bottom of Matty's studs with his hand as his foot rises upward and just gives him some extra momentum and he loses his balance. He definitely would have got to the ball as the defender clears it and he was behind Matty as he went to go past the goal keeper. |
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Post by harrybuckle on May 21, 2015 6:47:43 GMT
the wins over Gateshead were turning points for sure
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Post by DudeLebowski on May 21, 2015 8:57:08 GMT
Sinclair's performances against Gateshead at home and Torquay away within 6 days, were monumental!
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 21, 2015 10:22:16 GMT
And forgetting the obvious...i.e. Mansell's penalty at Wembley... What was the key defining moment of our season? For me it was Stuart Sinclair's injury at Gateshead. Now I love the bearded one and I love his energy, passion and work rate but if he hadn't got injured, would we have still brought in Chris Lines? Theres little doubt that Lines added something considerable to our team and he gave us a dimension we did not previously have. Would the board have still sanctioned Lines' loan, on League 1 wages when we already had 2 very capable and talented midfielders at the club who had performed well both individually and as a duo? I think probably not and for this reason I say Sinclair's injury at Gateshead was a season defining moment. No chance. It was the addition of the super strikers Gold & Wall  |
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Post by kingswood Polak on May 21, 2015 10:25:56 GMT
Absolute sacrilege. Without Sinclair we would never have been in the chase for the title, and so Lines would never have come (why would he if we were chasing for 5th?) Game after game, in the middle of the season, he carried the team on his back. From the Blackthorn I might not have seen the dimensions, but I did feel the tempo and the atmosphere lift every time he harried a midfielder or played a give-and-go. For me, despite the injury, he was player of the season, because without him there would have been no Wembley Had Puddy not thrown the ball into his own net there wouldn't have been a capacity home crowd against FGR or Wembley, and we would be around half a million quid poorer He should ask for a bonus. I see & like what you've done there |
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