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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 22:17:43 GMT
Well an interesting night,
"We will have a squad of 18-19 when training commences according to Darrell but Darrell wants 21-22 with loan signings. Only 5 subs rather than 7 in FL"
That was 2 tweets from a director, looks like still a few ins and outs.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 0:19:33 GMT
GK's - Mildenhall, *New*
RB's - Smith, *New*
LB's - Brown, *New*
CB's - McC, Parkes, Lockyer, *New*
RM's - Santos, *New*
LM's - *New*, *New*
CM's - Clarke, Gow, *New*, *New*
ST's - Taylor, White, Brunt, Harrold/*New*
A minimum of 8 spaces left to be filled IMHO.
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jun 19, 2014 0:50:07 GMT
Don't the first year pros count then Wes? Greenslade, Thomas, Wilson, Lucas don't take up even one space between them even though we have announced they have signed or are still under contract? Plus unless they can persuade someone to take him off our hands then one of those squad places wages will be used up by Harrison. I reckon rather than 10 "News" we are looking at three before pre-season starts, then two of the several triallists being taken on as the friendliest are played out, followed by one or two season long loans coming in depending on how many of Smith/Brown/Parkes/Brunt/Harrold/Harrison we lose to concrete deals replacing the rumours.
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Post by nortongas1 on Jun 19, 2014 0:55:05 GMT
I reckon if we can't get rid of Harrison he will be released even if he has 2years left DC does not like him one bit! That's why he didn't attend the game against Wycombe cause Clarke didn't want him around the squad! He was difficult when Clarke took over apparently!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 1:04:24 GMT
Don't the first year pros count then Wes? Greenslade, Thomas, Wilson, Lucas don't take up even one space between them even though we have announced they have signed or are still under contract? Plus unless they can persuade someone to take him off our hands then one of those squad places wages will be used up by Harrison. I reckon rather than 10 "News" we are looking at three before pre-season starts, then two of the several triallists being taken on as the friendliest are played out, followed by one or two season long loans coming in depending on how many of Smith/Brown/Parkes/Brunt/Harrold/Harrison we lose to concrete deals replacing the rumours. GK's - Mildenhall, *New* RB's - Smith, *New* LB's - Brown, Greenslade CB's - McC, Parkes, Lockyer, *New* RM's - Santos, *New* LM's - Harrison, *New* CM's - Clarke, Gow, Thomas, *New* ST's - Taylor, White, Brunt, Harrold/*New*, Lucas So a minimum of 6 signings needed IMHO then. |
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Post by basel on Jun 19, 2014 1:04:43 GMT
I reckon if we can't get rid of Harrison he will be released even if he has 2years left DC does not like him one bit! That's why he didn't attend the game against Wycombe cause Clarke didn't want him around the squad! He was difficult when Clarke took over apparently! Ellis went astray at some point and became a thorough disappointment. I hope he's not with Rovers again. Shame,but there you go. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 1:09:52 GMT
If Harrison sorts his head out he could be a major asset at Conference level. Definitely. Is he prepared to come back and put in the effort required though? Only time will tell, but everybody deserves a second chance and if he is willing, should be given that chance to prove he wants it bad enough....
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Jun 19, 2014 1:36:21 GMT
If Harrison sorts his head out he could be a major asset at Conference level. Definitely. Is he prepared to come back and put in the effort required though? Only time will tell, but everybody deserves a second chance and if he is willing, should be given that chance to prove he wants it bad enough.... Agreed. Plenty of players have been reprieved from being on the transfer list (Jason Puncheon at Saints springs to mind). It is whether DC and EH can sort out a working arrangement. There is definitely the raw material there to make a player but they will need to work it out between them if that is to come off. What I can't see is the idea of Rovers paying up his contract because he's got two years left on his deal...so that would be the equivalent of two squad players wages being paid right now in order to have nobody in the squad. If we were to keep him in the stiffs for a year we pay half of the amount that would be wasted on paying him up and still be able to bring in one player for the other half of that amount. Of course if he were to break the conditions of his contract at any point then tearing up rather than paying up would be allowable. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 1:52:40 GMT
If Harrison sorts his head out he could be a major asset at Conference level. Definitely. Is he prepared to come back and put in the effort required though? Only time will tell, but everybody deserves a second chance and if he is willing, should be given that chance to prove he wants it bad enough.... Agreed. Plenty of players have been reprieved from being on the transfer list (Jason Puncheon at Saints springs to mind). It is whether DC and EH can sort out a working arrangement. There is definitely the raw material there to make a player but they will need to work it out between them if that is to come off. What I can't see is the idea of Rovers paying up his contract because he's got two years left on his deal...so that would be the equivalent of two squad players wages being paid right now in order to have nobody in the squad. If we were to keep him in the stiffs for a year we pay half of the amount that would be wasted on paying him up and still be able to bring in one player for the other half of that amount. Of course if he were to break the conditions of his contract at any point then tearing up rather than paying up would be allowable. It's certainly gonna be a test of DC's man-management skills. I hope they can find a balancing act. He's just 20-years-old, seemingly a bit immature and needs a manager to appreciate he's still young and will make mistakes. Clarke is barely out of nappies himself, but lets hope he has those man-management capabilities within his locker. EH has pace, an eye for goal and is a potential match winner at this level. It would be a shame for it to go to waste for him lacking focus/discipline or whatever. |
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Post by dmacca65 on Jun 19, 2014 11:28:28 GMT
Agreed. Plenty of players have been reprieved from being on the transfer list (Jason Puncheon at Saints springs to mind). It is whether DC and EH can sort out a working arrangement. There is definitely the raw material there to make a player but they will need to work it out between them if that is to come off. What I can't see is the idea of Rovers paying up his contract because he's got two years left on his deal...so that would be the equivalent of two squad players wages being paid right now in order to have nobody in the squad. If we were to keep him in the stiffs for a year we pay half of the amount that would be wasted on paying him up and still be able to bring in one player for the other half of that amount. Of course if he were to break the conditions of his contract at any point then tearing up rather than paying up would be allowable. It's certainly gonna be a test of DC's man-management skills. I hope they can find a balancing act. He's just 20-years-old, seemingly a bit immature and needs a manager to appreciate he's still young and will make mistakes. Clarke is barely out of nappies himself, but lets hope he has those man-management capabilities within his locker. EH has pace, an eye for goal and is a potential match winner at this level. It would be a shame for it to go to waste for him lacking focus/discipline or whatever. Good shout Wes, it was shocking how EH lost his way last term, as you say young, immature and for me impressionable as most young lads are, I would give him another go for sure, it might just work being that DC is a younger man himself, EH just might be able to relate to DC better. |
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Post by mancgas has left the building on Jun 19, 2014 11:36:23 GMT
Don't the first year pros count then Wes? Greenslade, Thomas, Wilson, Lucas don't take up even one space between them even though we have announced they have signed or are still under contract? Plus unless they can persuade someone to take him off our hands then one of those squad places wages will be used up by Harrison. I reckon rather than 10 "News" we are looking at three before pre-season starts, then two of the several triallists being taken on as the friendliest are played out, followed by one or two season long loans coming in depending on how many of Smith/Brown/Parkes/Brunt/Harrold/Harrison we lose to concrete deals replacing the rumours. GK's - Mildenhall, *New* RB's - Smith, *New* LB's - Brown, Greenslade CB's - McC, Parkes, Lockyer, *New* RM's - Santos, *New* LM's - Harrison, *New* CM's - Clarke, Gow, Thomas, *New* ST's - Taylor, White, Brunt, Harrold/*New*, Lucas So a minimum of 6 signings needed IMHO then. DC said the 4 youngsters will be assessed pre season and if not immediately ready for first team will be sent to Conference North SOuth, or the lower premier leagues in south, north to learn trade/strength in mans competitive football for 3 months or longer. So may be more than 6 depending on how the lads get on pre season |
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Post by mancgas has left the building on Jun 19, 2014 11:38:22 GMT
with Harrison its quite simple, he has to show DC he wants to be a professional footballer - if not he will be shipped out to someone on loan so he doesnt contaminate other youngsters, and we get part of his wages back
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Post by brizzle on Jun 19, 2014 11:41:45 GMT
If Harrison sorts his head out he could be a major asset at Conference level. Definitely. Is he prepared to come back and put in the effort required though? Only time will tell, but everybody deserves a second chance and if he is willing, should be given that chance to prove he wants it bad enough.... I would agree with that, after all he is contracted to the club for the next two years. I seem to remember that when he had his off-field ''problem'' last year, it seemed to coincide with his loss of form. Of course this was quite understandable, but his attitude and form never returned to what it was prior. It may well be that DC will sit him down and clear the air, that would be my preferred option, or alternatively if they can't sort the problems out then he should be put out on loan. Hindsight is a marvellous thing, but if the club knew 12 months ago what they know now, he wouldn't even be retained never mind being given a 3-year contract. Silly boy.  |
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Post by Gashead on Jun 19, 2014 11:44:06 GMT
I really hope we get some players in with competitive experience as back-up, rather than relying on the kids. That was half of our problem last season - it's great to have them around and use them occasionally, but some (Santos in particular springs to mind) were thrown in at the deep end and weren't ready. People like Lucas, Greenslade etc. probably need spells of regular competitive football before they come back to compete for places at BRFC.
Look at how players like Charlie Clough developed with spells in non-league football, better to use the loan system rather than expecting them to make the leap from youth football to the BRFC first-team.
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Post by brizzle on Jun 19, 2014 11:51:30 GMT
with Harrison its quite simple, he has to show DC he wants to be a professional footballer - if not he will be shipped out to someone on loan so he doesnt contaminate other youngsters, and we get part of his wages back Or that he doesn't become another Shaquille Hunter, or Lamar Powell? Such a waste to see talented youngsters appear to throw the careers away. Powell has just signed for Weymouth, whereas Hunter appears to be still unattached. Harrison should be told this, and I'm certain he will be. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 19, 2014 12:52:00 GMT
with Harrison its quite simple, he has to show DC he wants to be a professional footballer - if not he will be shipped out to someone on loan so he doesnt contaminate other youngsters, and we get part of his wages back I assume he can only be sent out on loan to another club if he agrees to a move? You can sense this is yet another player who we are going to have to pay up part of his contract to get him off the books. Unless he has a change of attitude over the summer or the club can find some way to dismiss him. |
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Post by Cheshiregas on Jun 19, 2014 13:03:51 GMT
GK's - Mildenhall, *New* RB's - Smith, *New* LB's - Brown, *New* CB's - McC, Parkes, Lockyer, *New* RM's - Santos, *New* LM's - *New*, *New* CM's - Clarke, Gow, *New*, *New* ST's - Taylor, White, Brunt, Harrold/*New* A minimum of 8 spaces left to be filled IMHO. Wes I thought Santos had gone or was going..... or have I missed something? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 14:14:33 GMT
Wes I thought Santos had gone or was going..... or have I missed something? Bid rejected from Hull. DC wants to keep him. |
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