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Post by Henbury Gas on Apr 28, 2015 9:37:14 GMT
Do you think a Higher standard ref than conference level will be appointed for the games on Weds/Sun ?
Is that possible under the Conference rules ?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 28, 2015 9:40:58 GMT
I don't know but I fear for us, if we get a weak one.
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Post by matealotblue on Apr 28, 2015 10:12:30 GMT
The one from Saturday would do. Not that he had much to referee but seemed competent in what he had.
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Post by Gashead on Apr 28, 2015 10:20:04 GMT
You'll be pleased to know that the referee for Wednesday is Lee Swabey, who also refereed the 1-0 loss against Forest Green in October.
The ref for the second leg is Darren England, who last refereed the Barnet game on Saturday.
Ominous signs.
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Post by badbloodash on Apr 28, 2015 10:42:26 GMT
You'll be pleased to know that the referee for Wednesday is Lee Swabey, who also refereed the 1-0 loss against Forest Green in October. The ref for the second leg is Darren England, who last refereed the Barnet game on Saturday. Ominous signs. Having watched the Barnet game on Saturday I think Mr England should go to spec savers ridiculous shout for Barents corner which lead to 2 no goal and disallowed perfectly good goal for offside but he did seem a bit of a homer so crank it up and put him under some pressure |
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Post by Gwengers on Apr 28, 2015 10:46:47 GMT
Swabey was so terrible that I would be reluctant to put into words my true feelings on the matter.
One of the strangest and most curious refereeing displays I think I have ever seen. Not happy at all to hear he has been given the first leg.
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Post by GasMacc1 on Apr 28, 2015 10:58:45 GMT
Lee Swabey also refereed the home wins against Wrexham in September and Lincoln in February.
Darren England took the win at Grimsby (A) in February and the draw at Halifax (A) in March.
[Apart from Alfreton (H), Ben Toner was the ref for Lincoln (A) in September and Aldershot (H) in March].
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Post by droitwichgas on Apr 28, 2015 11:05:21 GMT
You'll be pleased to know that the referee for Wednesday is Lee Swabey, who also refereed the 1-0 loss against Forest Green in October. The ref for the second leg is Darren England, who last refereed the Barnet game on Saturday. Ominous signs. Having watched the Barnet game on Saturday I think Mr England should go to spec savers ridiculous shout for Barents corner which lead to 2 no goal and disallowed perfectly good goal for offside but he did seem a bit of a homer so crank it up and put him under some pressure Not sure you can blame a ref for a linesman flagging for offside? At least we haven't got the Dover(A) or Eastleigh(H) refs!! |
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Post by Gwengers on Apr 29, 2015 21:25:23 GMT
Swabey was so terrible that I would be reluctant to put into words my true feelings on the matter. One of the strangest and most curious refereeing displays I think I have ever seen. Not happy at all to hear he has been given the first leg. Nice to see my suspicions confirmed, with an absolutely laughable performance from the excuse of a human being that he is, although I of course wish they hadn't been. His decisions are bordering on the absurd and have you questioning just quite what is going on. I really do not know how many things he gave the other way today, but the inability to send a player off for an off the ball kick just about summed it up. How is it possible for someone to be genuinely that terrible? |
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Post by Trowbridge_Gas on Apr 29, 2015 21:29:35 GMT
Swabey was so terrible that I would be reluctant to put into words my true feelings on the matter. One of the strangest and most curious refereeing displays I think I have ever seen. Not happy at all to hear he has been given the first leg. Nice to see my suspicions confirmed, with an absolutely laughable performance from the excuse of a human being that he is, although I of course wish they hadn't been. His decisions are bordering on the absurd and have you questioning just quite what is going on. I really do not know how many things he gave the other way today, but the inability to send a player off for an off the ball kick just about summed it up. How is it possible for someone to be genuinely that terrible? Also where he let them take a quick free kick, that luckily went out for a goal kick, when there had just been a clash of heads and one of their players was still down and ours was just getting up. Absolute joke of a refereeing performance. |
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Post by Gwengers on Apr 29, 2015 21:36:29 GMT
It was not just the big decisions, it was literally every aspect of his performance that was utterly baffling. The 'fouls' that Harrison and Monkhouse somehow committed, when fouled themselves, the barge in the back on Taylor... It was beyond a joke and I am absolutely furious as I genuinely feel that the referee has denied us a more comfortable buffer going into the second leg. He was that bad.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 29, 2015 21:37:17 GMT
Harrison's first yellow tonight was for a minor off the ball incident after Monkhouse appeared to be foul but bizarrely the ref gave it to FGR.
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Post by GasMacc1 on Apr 29, 2015 21:54:31 GMT
I think we might have found one of the reasons for ex-Football League teams failing to bounce straight back up. There have been a number of cases this season of refs giving Rovers' opponents the sympathy decisions. Tonight (especially in the first half when Rovers were so on top) his intention to give FGR the benefit of every decision was the most embarrassing I've seen for some time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 22:11:41 GMT
but the inability to send a player off for an off the ball kick just about summed it up. How is it possible for someone to be genuinely that terrible? Exactly. If you give anything at all in that situation it has to be red. For the final 20 minutes you simply never knew what he was going to give FGR the next free kick for. Hard to believe that he is the best official they could find for a game that's so important to both teams. |
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Post by Bernard Briggs on Apr 30, 2015 7:12:27 GMT
but the inability to send a player off for an off the ball kick just about summed it up. How is it possible for someone to be genuinely that terrible? Exactly. If you give anything at all in that situation it has to be red. For the final 20 minutes you simply never knew what he was going to give FGR the next free kick for. Hard to believe that he is the best official they could find for a game that's so important to both teams. Agreed, the last twenty minutes was the most baffling refereeing display I`ve seen in my life. To be fair though, I thought he gave us just as many undeserved free kicks as them. He just seemed to lose control of what he was doing, blow his whistle, and point in one direction or the other, regardless of what was going on in front of him. Utterly bizarre. I`m glad I was there to witness it. |
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Post by Nobbygas on Apr 30, 2015 7:58:10 GMT
I had to guffaw at the decision in the second half, where Harrison knocked the ball past the defender, who then body checked him, only for the ref to give the free kick to FGR.
I sent a txt to my son after about 15 minutes saying the ref was a bad 'un and somebody would get sent off.
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Post by Igitur on Apr 30, 2015 8:58:15 GMT
Harrison made it easy for that popinjay of a ref. Harrison was wound up and having afters and getting unnecessarily involved all the time, you could see it coming. DC should have had a word at half time (he may have done and it was not his fault Harrison had not been subbed).
The Conference stuff shirts in blazers can not have been happy with so much televised coverage of bad refereeing, but what will they do - nothing?
These play-offs need proper refs, either a premier one or one on the cusp of promotion to the top flight. The clown did not have a grip and got so much wrong.
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Post by irishrover on Apr 30, 2015 9:31:19 GMT
but the inability to send a player off for an off the ball kick just about summed it up. How is it possible for someone to be genuinely that terrible? Exactly. If you give anything at all in that situation it has to be red. For the final 20 minutes you simply never knew what he was going to give FGR the next free kick for. Hard to believe that he is the best official they could find for a game that's so important to both teams. To be fair to him, while the ref had a terrible game I have some sympathy for him there. I don't think he saw the incident. The play had ended and he'd probably turned to run back towards the halfway line. I don't think the linesman saw it properly either. That's why they didn't give a red. I'd rather an official didn't guess personally. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Apr 30, 2015 9:40:00 GMT
Amazing how teams always seem to get away with that kind of thing against us, with officials unsighted or unwilling to take action.
Then Clarkson got himself sent off at home last season, which very few saw in real time, and officials did see.
Funny how it only seems to run one way!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 10:12:36 GMT
Exactly. If you give anything at all in that situation it has to be red. For the final 20 minutes you simply never knew what he was going to give FGR the next free kick for. Hard to believe that he is the best official they could find for a game that's so important to both teams. To be fair to him, while the ref had a terrible game I have some sympathy for him there. I don't think he saw the incident. The play had ended and he'd probably turned to run back towards the halfway line. I don't think the linesman saw it properly either. That's why they didn't give a red. I'd rather an official didn't guess personally. You are a confusing fella at times. If he saw nothing and the Lino obviously didn't either or it would have been a straight red for violant conduct, then there's no other conclusion, he guessed. Or are you saying that it's OK to guess and give yellow but not guess and give red? Puddy should have gone down and rolled around a bit screaming. Don't usually approve of those antics, but when faced with teams who play how FGR and Eastleigh do you need to do something to balance up what's happening in the game. Hope Sunday's ref was watching and knows what to expect from them. It's going to get tasty if we are still winning towards the end of the game. |
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